Popular Post conecones Posted August 6, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 6, 2021 I would much prefer a 16x3" wheel size with plenty of suspension (125mm+) on a 100v platform. Generally in all wheeled transportation devices, whenever you add suspension, the wheel size can decrease (and usually does decrease) to increase torque, increase wheel stiffness/strength and lower weight (increases suspension sensitivity). Keep the 18"+ wheels for non-suspension models or a low-travel suspension option. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gon2fast Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 I am a big guy so big wheels work well for me. I have owned a Monster and I currently own a Sherman. The big wheels are fun once you get them up to a decent speed, but they lack low end power/punch. Having a large-ish wheel (18,19,20 -all the same as far as I am concerned) with suspension and enough power/battery to be fun off of the line sounds like something I have been wanting for a long time. I would rather stay hopeful at this point in time given our current choices of performance and/or suspension wheels. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tryptych Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 11 hours ago, AtlasP said: we have the threats of fire left and right You're exaggerating a lot - I have multiple wheels and I feel zero threat from fires, absolutely zero. Fires are extremely rare. 11 hours ago, AtlasP said: It seems no-one is yet aiming for what I consider the sweet spot: 18x3 + suspension + 100v speeds + 1800+ Wh. I don't want larger than 18" (with the reduced torque/accel/braking) nor higher than 100v speeds or electrical risks. Just give me the best of the high-end 18" wheels from a few years ago with the promise of the suspension wheels as evidenced this past year, without compromises. I'll pay. I agree with you there. If the V11 had an RS-HT motor and 1800wh it would be the perfect wheel for me. Someone take my money!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtlasP Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 18 minutes ago, Tryptych said: You're exaggerating a lot - I have multiple wheels and I feel zero threat from fires, absolutely zero. Fires are extremely rare. These are the fires known about/reported on this forum just in the last 3-1/2 years: On 1/18/2021 at 12:31 PM, Asphalt said: Gotway: 13 Kingsong: 3 InMotion: 1 Segway: 1 [Source: https://forum.electricunicycle.org/topic/21506-smoke-fire-history/ ] And no doubt there have been more than just reported on this forum. Perhaps our thresholds for concern are just different, but I don't have to exaggerate for those numbers to reach my own personal threshold of considering it a serious problem. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Brahan Seer Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 It would be interesting to know how many of those fires were in standard wheels ( esp batteries) using standard chargers. Buying a dedicated lithium fire extinguisher and or fire proof cabinet could help overcome concerns if anyone has them. Although having the fire extinguisher is probably not a bad idea anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post fbhb Posted August 12, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 12, 2021 (edited) King Song just posted this on Facebook: Home | King Song S20 Launch ONLY 14 DAYS TO GO (for launch info at the current time) Edited August 12, 2021 by fbhb 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
div Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 Nice, at least it should be polished and available by next spring. Exciting to see what they will bring. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_bike_kite Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 On 8/7/2021 at 1:37 PM, The Brahan Seer said: It would be interesting to know how many of those fires were in standard wheels ( esp batteries) using standard chargers. It would also be interesting to know whether the wheels had had substantial crashes. We all fall off from time to time but Gotway does attract high speed riders and I'd expect the crashes to be a lot harder. They also tend to have larger battery packs which means there's more inertia in the pack. It would be interesting to see more details on the wheels concerned: model of wheel, battery size, 100v or 84v, does the owner have a fast charger, was the wheel charging at the time of the fire? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul A Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 Very nice info on KS20 launch. Website has info release time of August 26, 2021, 10pm Shenzen time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meepmeepmayer Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 It's real! "S20 Eagle" 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KNZ Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 I already like this wheel simply because b i r d 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tawpie Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 gotta start saving up the husband points 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rawnei Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 S20 Eagle, first EUC that can fly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RockyTop Posted August 12, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 12, 2021 3 hours ago, Tawpie said: gotta start saving up the husband points That’s a thing? ....... I must be doing something wrong! .... or maybe you are? ..... My wife just buys things and gets mad if I complain. My excuse? : I need one to design a stand. Company expenses, .... boring stuff really. Yada yada. .... I can right it off in taxes. It will pay for itself ....... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fryman Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 Man, I need a new wheel. Hope this is the one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tawpie Posted August 12, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 12, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, RockyTop said: That’s a thing? Oh. My. Goodness. Gracious. Me. You must be new? More difficult to produce than bitcoin. Value as ephemeral as Doge. They are to be cherished, hoarded, scraped together and guarded like few other things in life. They are more precious than Gollum's precious. They can bail you out when you slip and actually answer "does this make me look..."? You need them when you space an insignificant event, or gaze just a fraction too long. They are the balm that makes domestic tranquility even possible, the very currency of forbearance. If you have a good enough stockpile and the phase of the moon is right, you can trade them for keeping your tee time rather than spending the afternoon with the in laws (anything involving in laws usually burns the entire cache BTW). I have no idea how you've survived as long as you have not knowing about these things—your innate spousal management skills must be unimaginably sharp. You have just cause to be disappointed with those that raised you for failing to enlighten you on this essential life-fact. But now, rejoice in your newfound knowledge and go forth in happiness. I had a boss who said he and his spouse had an agreement: He is responsible for all the big decisions, she the small ones. So while she handled whether to buy the minivan or the RX-7, and will it be Disneyland or salmon fishing this year, he was responsible for determining if it was the right time for the Fed to reduce the benchmark interest rate, and should we continue sending people to the moon. In my household, a third wheel is, well, a third wheel and that's a small decision if there ever was one. So I must save. Edited August 12, 2021 by Tawpie 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Man Riding Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 Hey guys the King Song S20 Eagle will be officially announced on Thursday, August 26th at 7:00AM PDT. King Song has put up a countdown / announcement website https://www.kingsongs20.com/ check it out and let me know how excited you are about the eminent announcement of a 20” bigger more powerful suspension wheel from King Song. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gon2fast Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 20 hours ago, div said: Nice, at least it should be polished and available by next spring. I heard rumor that KS is shooting for a Winter 2021 release, but that could be the standard 50 unit first batch followed by a true rollout a few months later. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Zopper Posted August 13, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 13, 2021 14 hours ago, Tawpie said: gotta start saving up the husband points You might be lucky, in a way. You have no idea how hard it is to resist, how hard it is to not buy all new eucs, when every time you look at another euc a soft female voice whispers into your ear: “We need this thing, my precious, we need it. Buy it for us.” 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meserias Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 Look, it's an S20 ! No...it's an eagle on wheel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrelwood Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 14 hours ago, Big Man Riding said: let me know how excited you are about the eminent announcement of a 20” bigger more powerful suspension wheel from King Song. About the announcement? Barely at all. As most humans learn from experience, we should now know that until the production version of the wheel has reached several customers capable of detailed and critical judgement on build quality, the excitement may wear thin a bit fast. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post petaluma Posted August 13, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 13, 2021 My wife wanted a new horse. I said "Of course Love. Ill go get my coat and hook up the trailer" Made it real hard for her to say no to my new wheel. Most expensive wheel on the planet but who cares. YOLO 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heyzeus Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 20 hours ago, Tawpie said: Oh. My. Goodness. Gracious. Me. You must be new? More difficult to produce than bitcoin. Value as ephemeral as Doge. They are to be cherished, hoarded, scraped together and guarded like few other things in life. They are more precious than Gollum's precious. They can bail you out when you slip and actually answer "does this make me look..."? You need them when you space an insignificant event, or gaze just a fraction too long. They are the balm that makes domestic tranquility even possible, the very currency of forbearance. If you have a good enough stockpile and the phase of the moon is right, you can trade them for keeping your tee time rather than spending the afternoon with the in laws (anything involving in laws usually burns the entire cache BTW). I have no idea how you've survived as long as you have not knowing about these things—your innate spousal management skills must be unimaginably sharp. You have just cause to be disappointed with those that raised you for failing to enlighten you on this essential life-fact. But now, rejoice in your newfound knowledge and go forth in happiness. I know a lot of this is tongue in cheek, and if you are in a good relationship it's generally fun and games, but woe for the husband acquiring HP in a bad relationship, as a single guy though it just makes me glad I'm still single. Want the new xbox, go buy the new xbox, the only entities I have to run my purchases by are me and my fidelity investment account. When I want a new wheel the determining factor will be money and whether the wheel is finally available in a relatively quality controlled version 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mrelwood Posted August 15, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 15, 2021 On 8/12/2021 at 6:06 PM, Tawpie said: gotta start saving up the husband points My wife doesn’t require any such things either. She even lets me keep my workshop AND my mancave. She understands if feel the need to stay on the computer when she goes to bed. She never nags about the group rides that take a whole day, and she’s actually even eager to learn riding herself. I just don’t know which dating site I’ll find her at. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fat Unicyclist Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, mrelwood said: My wife doesn’t require any such things either. She even lets me keep my workshop AND my mancave. She understands if feel the need to stay on the computer when she goes to bed. She never nags about the group rides that take a whole day, and she’s actually even eager to learn riding herself. I just don’t know which dating site I’ll find her at. I am in a similar situation, and I have gone with a twofold approach to maintain the status quo... 1. Flowers (delivered regularly) 2. Gin (with minimum quantities maintained) It's worked well so far, but I do need to keep supplying new wheel options for her to try too... Edited August 15, 2021 by The Fat Unicyclist 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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