Kwing Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 Perhaps we can start a listing the Laws and Legislations for EUC riding at their home town.... -This looks like a reasonable one for EUC riders in NSW Australia. Wearing protective equipment should be a must anyways for their own safety. Although my question is can an EUC for commuting be count as "recreational"? Skateboards, foot scooters and rollerblades Listen The law A pedestrian includes "a person in or on a wheeled recreational device or wheeled toy". This includes rollerblades, a skateboard, scooter, unicycle or similar wheeled device: Foot scooters, skateboards and rollerblades may be ridden on footpaths unless signs specifically prohibit them, however, riders must keep to the left and give way to other pedestrians Powered foot scooters cannot be registered and can only be used on private land On separated bicycle and pedestrian paths, foot scooter, skateboard and rollerblade riders must use the section designated for bicycles, but must keep out of the path of any bicycle Foot scooters, skateboards and rollerblades can only be used on the road during daylight hours They cannot be used on roads with a dividing line or median strip or a speed limit greater than 50km/h, or a one-way road with more than one marked lane Safety advice On the footpath, riders of foot scooters, skateboards or rollerblades should not threaten pedestrians, especially the elderly – they may need to slow down or dismount in busy areas To improve safety and enjoyment, foot scooters, skateboards and rollerblades are best ridden in recreational areas designated for their use Foot scooter, skateboard and rollerblade riders should wear helmets and protective gear such as knee and elbow pads The use of foot scooters, skateboards and rollerblades on the road is not recommended for school-aged or younger children Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Kwing, When I was researching KingSong machines a month or so ago I accidentally hit upon Milbay's despite being in the UK. You might find this page interesting: http://www.milbay.com.au/ESWAY/Rules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwing Posted December 13, 2015 Author Share Posted December 13, 2015 Hi Keith, yea at least I know now what is approriate and what is not. I always wanted to follow the rules and respect the law and pedestrians given. Are there any rstrictions in EUC riding in UK? I heard its actually banned? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Kwing, A sore point. A Segway rider was fined under two, several hundred year old laws intended for horses and carts, indeed one of them was "furious riding". On the other hand today's Paris agreement means cutting CO2 emissions and transport is a major contributor. I gather the Mayor of London wants to see increases in green transport and currently trucks (in particular) in London are killing way too many cyclists each year. Something has got to give. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esaj Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 8 minutes ago, Keith said: On the other hand today's Paris agreement means cutting CO2 emissions and transport is a major contributor. I gather the Mayor of London wants to see increases in green transport and currently trucks (in particular) in London are killing way too many cyclists each year. Good point about the emissions, while it's true that producing electricity does make (at least some) emissions, it's likely far less than fossil fuels... Personally (and this is going to divide opinions a lot) I'm on the side of nuclear-energy, BUT not in the form it's (mostly) produced today, I mean things like breeder-reactors, not the light water reactors that are mostly used currently... there were actually pretty advanced breeder reactors already in testing in the 90's before the puclic opinion turned against nuclear energy in general. Also, while I think even an EUC could cause a fatal accident, it's a "bit" different being hit by truck with weight in tons or tens of tons, so you could claim EUCs are more safe, but on the other hand, you can't move nowhere near enough the same amount of stuff with them (unless you've got LOTS of EUCs and cargo that can be divided up to fairly small parcels) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micmic Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Hi esaj, Yes I agree. I couldn't say euc is any safer but what makes bicycling any safer though. Would love to see special euc lanes perhaps ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Esaj and Micmic, What was one my mind was EUC's on the pavement (sidewalk) or better still "personal transport lanes" - instead of cycle lanes, are a damn sight safer than bicycles on the road and they are hardly going to badly injure pedestrians! I was thinking in terms of commuting, not goods. My concern is if this Christmas sees a big increase in Hoverboard incidents. To my mind they are not practical for anything more than dance moves as they take up too much room on a pavement, are too slow and are way too easily suddenly turned, either by unskilled riding or just a broken paving slab catching one wheel. This sudden turning not only makes them more of a danger to pedestrians but, unlike EUC's, throws the rider off sideways. Only a couple of days ago a young rider was thrown into the road in front of a bus and killed. Legislators will tar all powered personal transport with the same brush. This article covers the accident but also demonstrates the negatives: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3355861/Teenage-boy-killed-hit-bus-riding-hoverboard.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micmic Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Are these hoverboards actually fit for commuting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovely Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 I think, that any hoverboards are not a lot more dangerous than rollerblades, a skateboard, scooter, unicycle or a motor bike. The best option would be creating a special unicycle courses to be trained as much as possible. Sorry about my bad english 3 hours ago, Micmic said: Are these hoverboards actually fit for commuting? They fit very well, but there are too many uninterested people to allow them to be road legal. The one wheel unicycle fits better, easier to ride on the bad roads, jump on and down the curbs without holding it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovely Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 We all know that normal classical cars has all necessary paperwork, tape approvals etc., but we can see how many injuries has caused every single minute by cars only !!! Even normal kitchen knife is very dangerous if dont use properly.. Sorry about my bad english Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
castShadow Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 13 hours ago, esaj said: Also, while I think even an EUC could cause a fatal accident, it's a "bit" different being hit by truck with weight in tons or tens of tons, so you could claim EUCs are more safe, but on the other hand, you can't move nowhere near enough the same amount of stuff with them (unless you've got LOTS of EUCs and cargo that can be divided up to fairly small parcels) This is what you mean @esaj swarm of robot EUCs parcel delivery - check it out http://forum.electricunicycle.org/topic/1019-the-video-thread/?page=11#comment-23386 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkoMarjamaa Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 6 hours ago, Keith said: This article covers the accident but also demonstrates the negatives: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3355861/Teenage-boy-killed-hit-bus-riding-hoverboard.html Not nice news and I hope this does not mean more legislation. Everyone learning to ride hoverboards or electric unicycles, have to ask him/herself a question: Would you learn to ride a bicycle in busy public streets? I'm sorry, but this is just stupidity and I hope it does not affect my rights to ride EU responsibly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neale Gray Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 Hi, I have posted updates for most of the laws that may be applicable in the different states of Australia. All the laws are referenced to the official state government web sites. I cannot offer legal advice only publish the relevant information. I am in Queensland, Queensland is ahead of the other Australian states in having laws in place to allow general use of PMD like the electric unicycle. http://www.milbay.com.au/ESWAY/Rules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwing Posted December 30, 2015 Author Share Posted December 30, 2015 Correction! Thanks to Peter who corrected me... it looks like that segways, electric unicycle, hoverboards cannot legally be ridden on the footpaths, roads etc... This is very very disappointing! I see those kids recklessly scootering crash into people. How is that different to any for tranporting devices?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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