Pale Rider Posted November 29, 2020 Posted November 29, 2020 After waiting several months I finally got my V11 but despite several days of practice i just cannot seem to get the hang on it. Considering how hard they are to get right now i was curious what people would be willing to pay to buy mine if i sold it rather than keep trying to learn it. What do you think? 1 Quote
Kurtosis Posted November 29, 2020 Posted November 29, 2020 Well where is it located? How much would you want for it? Quote
gon2fast Posted November 29, 2020 Posted November 29, 2020 Stick it out, you will be happy in the long run. 3 Quote
Popular Post Tryptych Posted November 29, 2020 Popular Post Posted November 29, 2020 (edited) 16 hours ago, Pale Rider said: After waiting several months I finally got my V11 but despite several days of practice i just cannot seem to get the hang on it. Considering how hard they are to get right now i was curious what people would be willing to pay to buy mine if i sold it rather than keep trying to learn it. What do you think? You are giving up way too easily! It is supposed to be hard and painful at first. If it wasn't then it wouldn't be as rewarding and addictive as it is. It takes most people a week or two before they can really ride, people that claim it only took them one day are extremely rare (and often dishonest). Just spend 30-60 minutes a day practicing the basics: getting on and off, and supporting yourself while moving along with a wall or fence. Make little tiny baby steps and it will get easier and easier everyday. Then one day it will "click" and you'll instantly be addicted and suddenly it will all be worth it. ps: turn off the suspension (take the air out or over pump it so it barely moves) and make sure your tire is a bit soft while you learn, it makes it significantly easier. Edited November 29, 2020 by Tryptych 6 Quote
Pale Rider Posted November 29, 2020 Author Posted November 29, 2020 You're right about that suspension trick - One issue I've had is that it rides so high my center of gravity is high and that's just making it harder to balance on. I've been practicing on it every day but I'm doing a hell of a number on my wrists, ankles, basically my whole body has bruises covering it now lol. I would like to learn it but I learned to use an electric skateboard in about 2 days so struggling with this thing after 2 weeks is increasingly frustrating. The main issue I feel is that's it's just so damn heavy that as soon as it get's "janky" to one side i just can't correct the lean, or i overcorrect and blam, there i am on the pavement again. Quote
Tryptych Posted November 29, 2020 Posted November 29, 2020 Yeah the V11 is not the easiest to learn on and it is very heavy - but it will be worth it if you push on. Lower your tire psi immediately - it makes a big difference. Also put some padding on the wheel, also wear padding on your knees/legs while you learn - cloth knee pads worn facing the wheel helped me master the V11 when my legs were getting beat up those first few days (and I already knew how to ride). It is not supposed to be easy. With all that said, I think if you sell you can probably get pretty close to what you paid if it's in good shape, there is a waiting list for V11's and demand is still higher then supply. Quote
Popular Post Scottie888 Posted November 29, 2020 Popular Post Posted November 29, 2020 I can certainly understand for some ppl, a high pedal height can be challenging esp for beginners. Once we develop a fear on that, it may be problematic to overcome. Instead of selling it on impulse & taking a hit on resale, perhaps an alternative maybe to purchase (new or used) a 2nd beginner friendly wheel to learn & get some confidence building riding time on. In IMO the V5/8 Inmotion's are arguably 2 of the most newb friendly wheels. Or if you're adventurous, the GW Mten3. Besides weighing next to nothing, it has the lowest pedal (&hence mounting/dismounting) height. Sure the low form requires a more specific mounting technique & the 10x3" tires can be a handful but once you "get" it, the lil Mten3 is one of the most unique & funnest wheel ever. It's worth keeping even with a stable of EUCs. Regardless, any of the examples mentioned will have decent - good resale value for the same reason/s as yourself...if you decide to get ride of them that is. Food for thought as all😉 4 Quote
Popular Post ..... Posted November 29, 2020 Popular Post Posted November 29, 2020 (edited) Ah the horror of learning to ride on a brand new expensive wheel. You either need to tell yourself that you WILL learn this, or just quit. NONE of the euc's are going to be simple to learn. They are ALL foreign to you. Maybe the heavier and suspended wheels are tougher, but with absolutely no point of reference, this detail means not a damn thing to you. You need to suck it up and keep trying with confidence you will learn it. You knock the new off it and realize its now something to use, not sell or idolize. Realize that its not as easy as everyone pretend it to be, but keep trying as you won't admit defeat. OR.... sell it before you scratch it, and find another hobby. If you buy another wheel, you will be faced with the same thing... its hard to learn, you must gain conviction that you WILL learn it. You will also have to knock the newness off a smaller one. My opinion... put some $$ aside for parts and learn to ride the v11. Tho not my choice of first wheels, so what? If you already knew how to ride an euc and didnt like the v11, thats a diff story. However, any decent euc is near $1k+ anyhow. The mten is an awesome wheel, but it wont solve your main problem.. you need conviction, patience and a willingness to damage yourself and the wheel. I have faith in you. You got this and youll have video to prove it, soon enough! Edited November 29, 2020 by ShanesPlanet 5 Quote
Scottie Posted November 29, 2020 Posted November 29, 2020 Everybody has said everything. I am going to pile on and say "keep the faith" for a couple more weeks. It should begin to happen for you soon. Once you roll 50 feet ... you are hooked! 2 Quote
Sludog Posted November 30, 2020 Posted November 30, 2020 (edited) I learned to ride on my V10 which unknowing at the time was probably the perfect starter wheel for me. I really wanted to get a V11 as my first wheel but didn't want to wait a few months to get one so I went with the V10. Hearing your frustration with the V11 makes me think I probably would have felt the same way only angrier if I did not get riding right away after plunking down close to $3K on wheel. I also had some thigh bruises and sore ankles learning as well but they went away once I learned the proper riding stance and didn't slam my legs into the wheel getting on and off. I did have a nice soft tire to start out with the first couple of days but found that a firmer tire was easier for me especially turning. I also lowered the speed limit all the way down to 12 mph in case I had to bailout and run. I would keep at it because it is very rewarding once you get that balance and take off down the road wobble free. Keep at it and you'll be floating in no time. Edited November 30, 2020 by Sludog 3 Quote
mrelwood Posted November 30, 2020 Posted November 30, 2020 (edited) I absolutely agree, keep it and keep on it. But don’t try to reinvent the wheel. Watch this EUCO learning video CLOSELY, and follow the practicing steps with as much detail as you can. Doing so will seriously cut down the time it takes for you to advance and for riding to “click”. Edited November 30, 2020 by mrelwood Quote
Kekafuch Posted November 30, 2020 Posted November 30, 2020 a long handicap ramp was a godsend for me. public schools often have a set of these and often empty on weekends or evenings. I used the rails to help me mount and at least get a feel of the motor starting and stopping and rolling more than 6' at a time. I went up the ramp and practiced stopping and getting my leg off. Then turning around and going down and repeat. Then I would try to mount and when frustrating I stopped and just continued my 20' rides up and down the ramp. Then one day, I decided to ride off the ramp and went down the parking lot. Tried mounting again and still needed help so I used a nearby sign post in the parking lot. I mounted and rode clumsily all over the open parking lot. It was the funnest hour ever. I wasn't consistent but I could stay on and just keep going. At that point I gave mounting a good hour and it just kept getting tighter and better as I rode in a circle and tried to hit random patterns in the parking lot. when mounting stage, I found walking the wheel with one leg on the pedal and one leg on the ground helped tremendously at getting a locked in feel and control of the wheel. Basically skip along or just baby step it and then take longer and longer strides. 2 Quote
Unventor Posted November 30, 2020 Posted November 30, 2020 @Pale Rider I know it seems impossible right now. But I encouraged you to keep going for it. Take short sessions (I could only handle 10-15min at each training session) take a break and if you have the option to record your training review those in between. Doing this helped me a lot by seeing small steps of progress until it finally clicked for me. This is how most of us expireanced the learning process. I can't explain why it just is this way. I would also suggest compare this to a bike. If you are riding it at 1-2 kmh it is very hard once it is at 5-10kmh it becomes easier. So some speed is your friend but not to much. 2 Quote
Unventor Posted November 30, 2020 Posted November 30, 2020 I have been thinking about learning to ride on a V11 and from the point of view not riding EUC before. I think this is part of why Inmotion labeled tge V11 for "Pro". Some might confused it for extreme but I don't see it like that. Part of learning to ride an EUC is getting the confident to step up, catch the balance and set off in control (these last 2 steps merge into one) and later come to a stop and dismounting in control. With the V11 you have higher pedals so to step up is a bit "harder" as the confidence level takes much more practice initially. Normally I would recommend learning to control the wheel with one leg spinning around yourself. But in the V11 case to ease up an get confident I would find a long wall or hallway to go back and forth to get a feel of the wheel. Or have someone to hold on to their shoulder (this is both good and bad. The person you lean on to need to be able to support you if you are about to fall off which can be hard if it comes at a surprise). When I learned to ride there were snow outside. So my buildings basement was my training grounds. After a while I felt I were trapped as I could not catch my balance without touching the wall. So I had to continue outside. To give you an idea have a look at this: This is one of my first rides outside: Some time later I rode to work (1800m in traffic): You might know me yet. But my reason to ride were to get about and train my body. I have different rheumatic conditions so I were like a frozen fish finger from where I get out if bed at 7am until 12am or2pm then I manage to get my knee working but now the muscles are too soft as my knee is pulled apart by collection of fluid due to inflation. Yet I learned to ride and overcome the lag of ability my body started out at. It is not easy for me to step up as it strain my knee on the V11. But once I get up I fly about 😁 almost like an albatros. Take off and landings are not my strongest suit 😉. This might not be best video quality. But the audio tell you what you can get to do soon. I now have about 7500km total on EUC 950ish km on my V11. I hope this might help others too to learn to ride. I personally would not start out on a V11 but it is not the same as it can't be done learning on it. But I doubt it will be easier in V11 as first EUC due to the above. 2 Quote
Scubadragonsan Posted December 1, 2020 Posted December 1, 2020 How old are you Pale Rider, if you don't mind my asking? Age is not necessarily a barrier. But in most cases, the older you are, the harder it is to pick something up. If you are 60 or 70 or younger in good physical/mental condition, I say don't give up. But if you are higher up in 80s and 90s and not in good physical/mental condition, I say maybe consider another kind of thrills. Sometimes all of us have to face reality as it is. Quote
Pale Rider Posted December 1, 2020 Author Posted December 1, 2020 I'm 40. It's stupid cold this week where i live outside PDX - Hoping nature will give me at least ten damn minutes to practice on it this week lol. 1 Quote
Tawpie Posted December 2, 2020 Posted December 2, 2020 (edited) Obviously, the general consensus is to hang in there and I third the notion. Patience is very important, among other things it'll keep you from thinking your skills are more advanced than they are and ending poorly. But if you really really do need somebody to make you a deal that amounts to out and out theft, I'm just up the road and can be in the car in minutes. Edited December 2, 2020 by Tawpie 1 Quote
RoCan Posted December 5, 2020 Posted December 5, 2020 Not sure if this was mentioned in above posts but I’d recommend learning on grass. Less bruises and less wheel damage results in less worry/more confidence at falling. The irregular surface might seem more difficult than smooth asphalt but it speeds up learning having to correct your positioning and find your centre of gravity over and over again. Might not work for everyone but did for me. Hope that helps 😬 Quote
xXpandaXx Posted December 7, 2020 Posted December 7, 2020 If you're still looking to sell I'm in Portland and would be interested in buying your v11. I'm willing to pay a fair price for it as well. No reason for you to pay all that money then not enjoy the hobbie. 1 Quote
DragonFZ Posted December 8, 2020 Posted December 8, 2020 It took me two weeks of riding in the house while using the walls. Now, I'm thinking of upgrading. Especially, when I brought my wheel I told myself I'm not going to upgrade. New EUC rider in my group had a V11 as his first wheel... but he learned on borrowed non-suspension wheels V8 to MSX for the duration of waiting to get his wheel. He said, it would be hard if he had to learn from only a suspension wheel because of the height. 1 Quote
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