Tryptych Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 (edited) Can anyone recommend a better pump that doesn't make you drop pressure when you unattach it? Maybe an electric one with some kind of quick release? (ps: I'm aware the InMotion pump has a latch, but it doesn't work properly for me and I end up losing about 5 PSI when I take it off) Edited October 26, 2020 by Tryptych Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Kolk Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 Batch 3 and onwards comes with a new pump bundled. Maybe it's better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tryptych Posted October 26, 2020 Author Share Posted October 26, 2020 1 minute ago, Bill Kolk said: Batch 3 and onwards comes with a new pump bundled. Maybe it's better? Lol that doesn't help me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Kolk Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 If the new pump is better maybe you can order that as an official part? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tryptych Posted October 26, 2020 Author Share Posted October 26, 2020 Just now, Bill Kolk said: If the new pump is better maybe you can order that as an official part? Oh I see your point now, but I want something tomorrow with Amazon Prime There are lots of them that look decent but I want the one that is best at keeping the PSI where I set it. Anyone got a good pump and a link? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gon2fast Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 Purchased this one over the weekend. Was sold on the "Zero air loss" line, but not seeing how the design is any different from a standard shock pump. Truth be told, I only messed with it for a few minutes so maybe there is a process that I am not aware of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gon2fast Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Tryptych said: Oh I see your point now, but I want something tomorrow with Amazon Prime The Pro Bike Tool shock pump is really good. You can manually disengage the pin while still attached to the shock to cut down on air loss (or maybe there is a process that I am unaware of.. broken record, lol). https://www.amazon.com/Bike-Shock-Mountain-Bikes-Motorcycle/dp/B07R7CFGJT/ref=sr_1_2?crid=3E9KOSN67EAFA&dchild=1&keywords=pro+bike+tool+shock+pump&qid=1603745920&sprefix=pro+bike+tool+shoc%2Caps%2C308&sr=8-2 Edited October 26, 2020 by gon2fast 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Themarsman Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 It seems to me that the pressure lost is just what is contained in the hose from the dial to the connector. When I pump up my shock I pump it to about 110 PSI release the lever and press the bleed button until the dial goes to zero. If I flip the lever back it will read 100 PSI which is what I want my shock to be set to. It is very consistent and I can do it every time. I believe every pump is going to have this problem, it normally doesn't show up as much because what you are pumping up holds much more air. The percentage of the air in the hose is about 10% of the total volume so when it is disconnected the PSI drops about 10%. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaotropic Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 7 minutes ago, Themarsman said: It seems to me that the pressure lost is just what is contained in the hose from the dial to the connector. When I pump up my shock I pump it to about 110 PSI release the lever and press the bleed button until the dial goes to zero. If I flip the lever back it will read 100 PSI which is what I want my shock to be set to. It is very consistent and I can do it every time. I believe every pump is going to have this problem, it normally doesn't show up as much because what you are pumping up holds much more air. The percentage of the air in the hose is about 10% of the total volume so when it is disconnected the PSI drops about 10%. So is the pressure 110 in the chamber and only reduces to 100 after you open the chamber to “measure” and air from the chamber refills the hose? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Themarsman Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 23 minutes ago, Chaotropic said: So is the pressure 110 in the chamber and only reduces to 100 after you open the chamber to “measure” and air from the chamber refills the hose? Good question, but does it really matter? It is very consistent and when I put it at that level it rides great for me. My guess it is might be at 110 PSI and when I hook it up again it drops to 100 PSI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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EUChristian Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 1 hour ago, Chaotropic said: So is the pressure 110 in the chamber and only reduces to 100 after you open the chamber to “measure” and air from the chamber refills the hose? Yes that is exactly correct. When you retract the hammer from the pin and air loss you hear removing the device is due to hose pressure. If you release that pressure, screw the pump back on and then flick the hammer forward air then fills the hose and that volume is equal to a 10psi loss. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoGeorgeGo Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 On 10/26/2020 at 5:43 PM, Chaotropic said: So is the pressure 110 in the chamber and only reduces to 100 after you open the chamber to “measure” and air from the chamber refills the hose? Yes, if you are measuring pressure with the pump you lose some pressure to fill the hose. And considering how small of a volume of air goes in the shock, that hose will take a large % of that air out (compared to a tire where that hose full is almost nothing) For a more accurate pressure reading use a tire pressure guage 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EL Shazbot Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 Does anyone have any experience with the newer pumps? I'm trying to figure out if I should order a new one, before the V11 arrives. Thanks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSkyGlide Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 (edited) Just got my V11 today and the new pump is worse than the one I've been seeing in all of the YouTube videos (the silver one). This one bleeds off too much as you unscrew it from the valve. And...the black end unscrews from itself and not just the valve. Yep, not real happy at all with this pump. It's a piece of crap. I will have to get something that really works. I hope everything else is better than this pump. Edited November 30, 2020 by BigSkyGlide No longer a need for the picture Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gon2fast Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 The Pro Bike Tool with the red needle is my pump of choice. I find if I unscrew the needle 50% and then do the rest with the main nozzle the air loss is minimal. https://www.amazon.com/Bike-Shock-Mountain-Bikes-Motorcycle/dp/B07R7CFGJT/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=pro+bike+tool+shock+pump&qid=1606698129&sr=8-2 I have 5 other shock pumps that I never touch, lol. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rawnei Posted November 30, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 30, 2020 6 hours ago, BigSkyGlide said: Just got my V11 today and the new pump is worse than the one I've been seeing in all of the YouTube videos (the silver one). This one bleeds off too much as you unscrew it from the valve. And...the black end unscrews from itself and not just the valve. Yep, not real happy at all with this pump. It's a piece of crap. I will have to get something that really works. I hope everything else is better than this pump. I have the same pump and it works fine??? You unscrew the top part first and then bleed it before unscrewing the bottom part, works like a charm. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3putthater Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Sounded like a lot of people on YouTube/forums using original pump incorrectly including me. Some people talk about pressure loss, some about hard to unscrew. Here is a method I saw on you tube. Works great 1 screw pump on 2 pressurize pump to last setting (by pumping) 3 THEN lock pump on (opens valve actually) 4 pressure should stay at last setting. 5 adjust as necessary to desired pressure 6 unlock pump 7 relieve all pressure in hose with button on pump 8 unscrew pump I think you will find you don’t get that 10 pound +/- loss people are talking about when hose refills when attaching. Also makes easier to unscrew. Hope that helps..... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSkyGlide Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 8 hours ago, Rawnei said: I have the same pump and it works fine??? You unscrew the top part first and then bleed it before unscrewing the bottom part, works like a charm. Hey Rawnei... Wow... Now here is a prime example of why people need to be a part of a community like this. I see what you're saying and it looks like I stand corrected. All part of being a newbie to all of this. Thanks for correcting me in a nice way. What you stated makes sense to me now. Going to give it a shot a little later on the V11. Thanks and have a great day! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bumblebees Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 6 hours ago, 3putthater said: Sounded like a lot of people on YouTube/forums using original pump incorrectly including me. Some people talk about pressure loss, some about hard to unscrew. Here is a method I saw on you tube. Works great 1 screw pump on 2 pressurize pump to last setting (by pumping) 3 THEN lock pump on (opens valve actually) 4 pressure should stay at last setting. 5 adjust as necessary to desired pressure 6 unlock pump 7 relieve all pressure in hose with button on pump 8 unscrew pump I think you will find you don’t get that 10 pound +/- loss people are talking about when hose refills when attaching. Also makes easier to unscrew. Hope that helps..... You have a link to the video? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn Bjerke Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 this is much easier..... electric pump Ali express has it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrelwood Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 1 hour ago, Finn Bjerke said: this is much easier..... electric pump Ali express has it A regular pump made for filling tires don’t usually have the valve connector designed in a way that prevents air loss when disconnecting. No need to do that for tires. Also, a shock pump must be able to reach closer to 200 psi. None of the electric ones come even close. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSkyGlide Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 On 10/26/2020 at 3:00 PM, gon2fast said: The Pro Bike Tool shock pump is really good. You can manually disengage the pin while still attached to the shock to cut down on air loss (or maybe there is a process that I am unaware of.. broken record, lol). https://www.amazon.com/Bike-Shock-Mountain-Bikes-Motorcycle/dp/B07R7CFGJT/ref=sr_1_2?crid=3E9KOSN67EAFA&dchild=1&keywords=pro+bike+tool+shock+pump&qid=1603745920&sprefix=pro+bike+tool+shoc%2Caps%2C308&sr=8-2 Just bought one on Amazon. I figure it is good to have an extra around too. Sure doesn't hurt. Thanks for posting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EL Shazbot Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 On 11/30/2020 at 12:46 AM, Rawnei said: I have the same pump and it works fine??? You unscrew the top part first and then bleed it before unscrewing the bottom part, works like a charm. I was literally about to post the same complaint regarding the pump. So glad someone figured it out, that does work well. Thank you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Middleton in US Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 On 11/30/2020 at 1:46 AM, Rawnei said: I have the same pump and it works fine??? You unscrew the top part first and then bleed it before unscrewing the bottom part, works like a charm. For the new pump, what do you mean by unscrew the top part first? The unscrew portion of the pump is one single piece. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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