Quality of videos in The Video Thread

[RayBanMonster]

6 minutes ago, meepmeepmayer said:

In a perfect world, every video posted on this forum would be posted into this thread, so it is an index of sorts of all available videos for people to browse.

Understood. Apologies for any indiscretion.

[Midlife Cricycle]

Just now, Mike Sacristan said:

I will try to keep it short so that we can end this.

Timestamp embedded in URL or 35:10 into the clip.
So here is the answer:

I did not feel that I nailed that last jump. I was very nervous as I couldn't see the other side. I had already stress tested my soul enough and I was pretty much out of courage. Doing those things alone as an anxious person who overthinks things is a nightmare. I forced myself to do the last jump... uncomfortable as it was. I could not see the other side where I would land from the point where I would be jumping. 

I felt it in the part of my being that does not perform as a man is expected to do. In that way my comment is stereotyping men and women.

I felt it in my vagina. In my feminine side (which is my dominant side). In the side of me that is afraid of taking risks.
Right in the feels. Right in the vagina.

If you would like to learn more about the principle of charity there is a nice write up here:
https://effectiviology.com/principle-of-charity/

If you are unable to there is another good article here:
https://sharischreiber.com/do-you-love-to-be-needed/
Although that one is quite complex and can take a few days to get through and properly understand.
Then you can go back to the principle of charity.

Your interpretation is very coloured by your own values and those values seem a bit extreme if you are imposing them on everything you see.
They become a coloured lens.
Finding sexism where there is none.
Like people who find racism where there is none.
Looking for confirmation in your partner for a word you heard in a vacuum.

If you would like to continue to discuss sexism or charitable interpretations I am sure you can start your own thread and link to my clip or clips.
Perhaps you can start a poll.

You interpreted my words in a certain way. You put the burden on me to explain your interpretation.
That is quite a lot of work you are expecting others to do for you.
It is not too late for you to take responsibility for yourself.

That was me keeping it short.

 

Okay, I accept that interpretation. It was far from my initial reaction which, if I'm honest, was perhaps coloured by our previous interactions over a separate issue. I am actually a very optimistic person and usually seek the best in people, but maybe of late I've become more jaded as the world descends into in-fighting, corruption, economic turmoil, etc. I've also been in lockdown for about 6 months and have been without a wheel for over 1 month, which is literal hell. Maybe in 2 days when my new wheel arrives I'll be more upbeat?

I'm sorry I misinterpreted what you said. I'm sorry I derailed the thread. I don't regret raising the issue in the first place because, like I said previously, there is too much negative stuff out there that people don't call out or question because it's uncomfortable. Let's put this behind us and move on.  

[meepmeepmayer]

Ok so I moved all posts that didn't seem too related to a posted video into here.

Fel free to argue about whatever you like, it's just not supposed to clog up the Video Thread.

Also I'm happy everyone here is trying to be constructive and friendly, thanks guys

Edited October 12, 2020 by meepmeepmayer

[Mike Sacristan]

3 minutes ago, meepmeepmayer said:

Ok so I moved all posts that didn't seem too related to a posted video into here.

Fel free to argue about whatever you like, it's just not supposed to clog up the Video Thread.

Also I'm happy everyone here is trying to be constructive

Awesome work man! I have some Malibu and pineapple juice left. If only I could make you a nice relaxing piña colada after all of this. 

[Mike Sacristan]

6 minutes ago, Midlife Cricycle said:

Okay, I accept that interpretation. It was far from my initial reaction which, if I'm honest, was perhaps coloured by our previous interactions over a separate issue. I am actually a very optimistic person and usually seek the best in people, but maybe of late I've become more jaded as the world descends into in-fighting, corruption, economic turmoil, etc. I've also been in lockdown for about 6 months and have been without a wheel for over 1 month, which is literal hell. Maybe in 2 days when my new wheel arrives I'll be more upbeat?

I'm sorry I misinterpreted what you said. I'm sorry I derailed the thread. I don't regret raising the issue in the first place because, like I said previously, there is too much negative stuff out there that people don't call out or question because it's uncomfortable. Let's put this behind us and move on.  

Thank you so much for saying that.

I am also sorry if I came across too strongly. I tend to be easily offended and insulted... anxious me... my feminine side. My wounded inner child.
I do mention controversial things quite often. It is my way of making them visible instead of invisible. It is my way of taking power away from words.

We are a bit spoiled in Sweden because people act as if there is no virus except that we mostly stand 2 meters apart from each other when standing in line to buy groceries.
So I am out riding every day.. and actually more than ever because Monika can't leave the country to teach Zumba and does it from home instead. I can't stand sounds that don't belong so I go into fight or flight mode = I grab my 2664Wh Nikola and go...

Congrats on your upcoming S18! 

 

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3 hours ago, RayBanMonster said:

Iam a kind human.. and there's something about you,  video or not that makes me step up to your precociousness and I will always do it regardless of video content coming or not.

Meep is very civil, in fact most people are civil... and that should be a message to you.

Yes, I did post displeasure at lazy video content.. but actually it was said for the good of the forum... now newbies will edit better for content . They should NOT feel inhibited to present content, this isnt a children's forum... we fail we hurt in this hobby. We need truth not lies here. We need humanity and warmth, not bluster and precociousness, for you are one trip short of a faceplant and humility is required.  That is EXACTLY the reason why I asked for folk to step up the video content.

TOO MANY VIDEOS PROJECTING A VISION OF WHAT THEY WANT, NOT THE TRUTH OF WHO THEY ARE, NOT THE JOURNEY OF FAILURE THAT IS ALL OUR EXPERIENCES,, WORSE... A VIDEO OF BANALITY WITHOUT MUCH OF THEM OR SUBJECT MATTER WITHIN IT. !  Let people up vote your commentary. I don't care,  because it isn't REAL. Newcomers will still fall hard and people will need to be cared for.

A video of silence, that has a history of BLUSTER  that says nothing about this truth,  IS A F*  LIE!  

I have read your response.  The only reason I am bothering to respond at all, is so that you can know I have not just run away, but am simply choosing to not continue feed this topic beyond this last post. Maybe my next ride WILL be a faceplant ride, maybe not. I accept this risk everytime I ride and am aware of it. Journey of failure? My videos are in chronological order from when I first began riding. I see nothing but success in visible failure. You want truth as it is in my mind, listen to my unscripted unprepared ramble. Being unscripted, it is truth and real as far as what comes from my mind at that moment. I am not a reliable source of information, nor am I claiming to be correct or unbiased. They are MY videos, so one can assume what they see/hear is simply opinion, or truth as far as my warped views see it. Imagine, a youtbe video where the person is speaking in opinion and not truth? surely ye jest?! I try not to mislead people, but people are fools if they take my channel as some form of proof of truth.  I belive newbies need ignore your opinion on this. You propose that there is a requirment of quality, tho the rules of the forum state no such things. You propose that some immediate form of responsibility to the viewers exists, where there is no declaration of such requirement.  You assume that everyone likes well prepared and well editted footage. You make assumptions that a person who chooses to ride with less safety gear, is unaware of risks. You make so many assumptions, as am I. Your inital post sounded elitist and tho you directed the opinion on yourself too, it doesnt negate that you are forcing that same opinion of quality on everyone else. Then you give us a run down of content creators that YOU find acceptable. Its just so damn tiring. I am not running away because I fear an argument, I am running away as Im just tired of beating a dead horse and this line of discussion is getting us no where. Perhaps a few may find us all funny to read, so its not a total loss.

I find it ironic that this thread was broken off and its MY avatar at the head of it. Makes it seem like this was MY idea and i was the one who started this bullshit. For the record, my post was a response to yours. Regardless, I'm sure I got a little more publicity from all of it. Oddly, my subscriber count is 100 people and its 100 more than I would have figured. Wouldnt it just be the damndest thing, if my count goes up because i disagree with you? Talk about irony! Of note, a few of my videos are of no opinions and merely riding. I am fully aware there are people who like rants and people who don't I also sometimes just dont feel like putting my opinions out there for people to attack me about.  Then there's times like this, when I cant help myslef and everyone gets a glimpse of the madness. Just to be clear, I will NEVER try and tell people that riding without gear on, is the safer choice. I leave it up to each person to decide their own level of compromises concerning that. Its theri medical bills, not mine.  I can also over look their gear choices and not make gross assumptions because of that little detail. At this point, I don't know what Im even defending. I'll just go back to my original point... who the fuck are you to decide whats good enough and what isnt? who the fuck are you, to place responsibilities of perpetuating the sport, onto a person who merely makes shitty videos? Who the fuck are you...   Spend a few moments wasting your life away on my video channel and you can quite clearly see who the fuck am I.   

And thus comes the end of my rant and position on the entire clusterfuck. I dont care if you agree or not. I dont care if you try to taunt me back into this rediculous argument. I have said more than enough and Im sure if anyone chooses to read all this shit, they are forming opinions of both you and I. Personally, I am quite pleased with how you are making me look, thru all of this. I am a little displeased that I have again saturated these pages with my bullshit opinions. I guess I do need to make more videos. I guess I do need to rant and rave. I definitely need to make sure I lower my standards of quality and ride helmet free more often, just to piss you off and prove that I accept no roles as ambasaddor. I am NOT an ambasaddor for anything. If anyone chooses to look up to me as an example, that is their mistake not mine. I will NOT accept responsibility for what other people choose to do, and this has not and will not change.

Edited October 12, 2020 by ShanesPlanet

[EUC Custom Power-Pads]

5 hours ago, Midlife Cricycle said:

Your argument essentially boils down to:

1. You are nice to women so your comment couldn't possibly be misogynistic.

2. Your comment was a play on words

3. Society places pressure on men to be more manly and extreme and comments like yours somehow liberate men from this trap.

Your first argument falls flat for the reason that you can be both. For the record, I don't think you're a raging woman-hater (based on our limited interactions). I do think you might occasionally use language that perpetuates unhealthy attitudes to women. I have certainly done so in my life (as I earlier admitted) but have worked hard to get better at this and accepted responsibility when I've been called out on this.

Your second argument - that "Right in the vagina" is a play on words - doesn't make sense to me. What word is being played with? If you think this is a pun, I suggest you look up the meaning of the word.

Your third argument is the least convincing and really quite confusing. You admit that your comment was aimed more towards men. That's kind of my point. You made that comment with male audiences in mind but gave little thought to how women might hear it. I mentioned this whole thing to my wife and when I told her your comment at the end of your video, she recoiled. Can I suggest you ask your partner/female friends for their thoughts on your comment? I'm also not sure how a comment like that, aimed towards men who are trapped in this world of masculine expectations, is meant to help the situation. I'm genuinely confused and would appreciate your further insights.

To me, "Right in the vagina" has obvious overtones of sexualised violence towards women. My interpretation is that you had just completed a day of tricks and jumps and felt like you had nailed it. Smashed it. Where? Right in the vagina. It was an assertion of your cigarette-smoking, too-tough-to-wear-a-helmet, dabbing manliness.

I really didn't set out to start a war on a forum that I otherwise enjoy, but there is clearly a sexism problem here (have a look at past threads on this issue as well as the recent controversy over the Begode picture of a large-breasted model astride an EUC and the response to it). I also note the response of other posters, replying with no sense of irony for me not to get my "panties in a twist". And saying that "humour is humour", a tautological phrase akin to the old chestnut: "boys will be boys!".

I stopped suggesting you wear a helmet when it became apparent that there is not much there worth protecting.

This time I don't know if you wrote same boring shit, but I assuming it and stopped reading immediately after the first few words. 

Please stop spamming the Forum, FB or YT. You should go ahead, buy your first wheel and have some fun, if that is even possible for you. 

Edited October 12, 2020 by buell47

[BFE Duke]

3 hours ago, Mike Sacristan said:

I will try to keep it short so that we can end this.

Timestamp embedded in URL or 35:10 into the clip.
So here is the answer:

I did not feel that I nailed that last jump. I was very nervous as I couldn't see the other side. I had already stress tested my soul enough and I was pretty much out of courage. Doing those things alone as an anxious person who overthinks things is a nightmare. I forced myself to do the last jump... uncomfortable as it was. I could not see the other side where I would land from the point where I would be jumping. 

I felt it in the part of my being that does not perform as a man is expected to do. In that way my comment is stereotyping men and women.

I felt it in my vagina. In my feminine side (which is my dominant side). In the side of me that is afraid of taking risks.
Right in the feels. Right in the vagina.

If you would like to learn more about the principle of charity there is a nice write up here:
https://effectiviology.com/principle-of-charity/

If you are unable to there is another good article here:
https://sharischreiber.com/do-you-love-to-be-needed/
Although that one is quite complex and can take a few days to get through and properly understand.
Then you can go back to the principle of charity.

Your interpretation is very coloured by your own values and those values seem a bit extreme if you are imposing them on everything you see.
They become a coloured lens.
Finding sexism where there is none.
Like people who find racism where there is none.
Looking for confirmation in your partner for a word you heard in a vacuum.

If you would like to continue to discuss sexism or charitable interpretations I am sure you can start your own thread and link to my clip or clips.
Perhaps you can start a poll.

You interpreted my words in a certain way. You put the burden on me to explain your interpretation.
That is quite a lot of work you are expecting others to do for you.
It is not too late for you to take responsibility for yourself.

That was me keeping it short.

 

You are one articulate son of a gun. I would like to hire you in the future for public relations work 

[EUC Custom Power-Pads]

4 hours ago, RayBanMonster said:

Dude... guy puts out BEST video content. STFU please.

Thanks

Now you are not boring anymore  

[Tazarinho]

On 10/10/2020 at 1:36 AM, RayBanMonster said:

This "hobby" deserves to be promoted well,  not showcased as a sorry dribble, esp when we know folk observe best through video.

Personally I find that in order to promote EUC's we don't only need flashy extremely skilled riders such as Kuji or Chooch. If I was interested in trying EUC's for the first time it would seem like something impossible to master. However seeing just a regular, average person enjoying a mellow cruise on a country road would make it seem entirely more possible.

That being said, I doubt that somebody that doesn't have, or that hasn't already decided they want a EUC would be browsing videos in this forum. 

You want to see Kuji's videos. Subscribe to him on youtube. You'll be supporting him better.
You want to see a video here on the forum. Click on it.
Do you find it boring? Stop watching...

As for me, I am grateful for anyone who is passionate enough about his own riding to make a video and post it here.
I don't like every video I see. Nobody forces me to watch them till the end.

Edited October 12, 2020 by Tazarinho

[Rehab1]

2 hours ago, Tazarinho said:

As for me, I am grateful for anyone who is passionate enough about his own riding to make a video and post it here.

[Unventor]

I so miss the good grand old days of when I joined the forum. Where @Rehab1 entertained us all with his contraption and daily work from his EUCs.

I think I have to find these again once my shift of working from home ends. 

I just don't has his fantastic charm to capture the audience. (and no I am dead serious on this). It is a skill I can only wish for but never master. 

[Mike Sacristan]

6 hours ago, BFE Duke said:

You are one articulate son of a gun. I would like to hire you in the future for public relations work 

Haha thanks man. That was a very nice way of saying it. 

[WILSONEUC]

quality , that is the question. 

1.)Not everyone has high quality cameras, drones, 360 cameras, or the latest production gear ect.

2.)Not everyone has a fast pc that can aid in editing (believe me, a slow pc can cause crashes, long load times, AND can make editing footage a long, frustrating process)

3.)Not everyone has high quality microphones 

4.)Not everyone has the same skill set when editing footage. 

5.)Not everyone is charismatic (a subjective stance, not everyone enjoys a charismatic presenter)

6.)Not everyone is daring, (some people prefer safety, some prefer to be daredevilish with their Euc's 

7.) Not everyone films in an area they live, or ride around in that is exciting (that is subjective to the viewer)

8.) Not everyone enjoys the same subject matter.

9.) Not everyone enjoys the lack of music or the music track

10.) Not everyone enjoys the message (if any) within a video.

 

At the end of the day,

Quality is subjective. 

Keep making videos !

 

Edited October 12, 2020 by WILSON-YT

[Rehab1]

3 hours ago, Unventor said:

I so miss the good grand old days of when I joined the forum. Where @Rehab1 entertained us all with his contraption and daily work from his EUCs.

 

Thanks buddy. My creativity seems to have went south. Even though it’s been a number of years since I lost my son it has taken a toll on me. I need to make another video in his memory. That might help. 

[Marty Backe]

On 10/8/2020 at 7:36 PM, ShanesPlanet said:

[Split off the Video Thread]

Im on day 3 of edit  and was going post another boring ride of me thru the hood, but you are probably correct, i neednt bother. I would like to step it up, but i am just NOT GOOD at preparing and filming and all the editting. Hell,my computer doesnt like it either.  I admire the skill it takes. Sadly, I spend a LOT of time to just get my shitty videos up to the crappy standards they are. It takes me forever to align telemetry and to even get the damn camera to work. I just dont have the skill to make it a little more effortless. YOu guys do great work and I feel like some are definitely working in video or have trained in video. You make a good point Ray, hurts me to admit it, but it is what it is. Even thinking of content is a nightmare for me. Rather than hear my stupid opinoins and risk offending or incriminating myself, I make the videos pointless. People used to ask for simple videos to just watch and feel like they were out for a ride, or to see how other people and where other people ride/live. Sadly, I also am not overflowing with information that I think anyone would benefit from... So, carry on you pro's, I'll perhaps consider not entering into the arena where I am terribly outmatched.

This is all BS (pardon my French). Please keep posting your videos Shane. I for one get a kick out of your personality.

Please tell me who gets to decide what's view worthy. If someone doesn't want to watch particular videos than they don't have to. But they don't have to crap (pardon my French again) over the videos that they don't like. Just move on.

[travsformation]

The video thread is a thread for videos. That's the official position. 

My personal stance is that I don't care if you're a camera-man with awesome cinematography skills or you just recorded your first few feet of riding with a crappy phone, if you feel compelled to share your content, do so. I can't say I'm a fan of posting other people's content there (namely, of the most well-known EUC Youtubers), I already follow them on Youtube, so to me, THE Video Thread is more about homemade, amateur content in whatever form (if you're badass as video creation and have the time and resources, I won't turn down quality videos either ) . Then again, I discovered some of my favourite EUC Youtubers via the Video Thread, so...I can hardly argue against their inclusion. 

I just say live and let live...

And as to quality,  likes, dislikes, opinions, judgements and whatnot, I'm of the opinion that "If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all". 

[Toshio Uemura]

On 10/19/2020 at 3:24 AM, travsformation said:

THE Video Thread is more about homemade, amateur content in whatever form

Things like this 😝