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Gotway 2021 ( What we want)


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I am sure many of us can agree that it is time for a new model from Gotway and hopefully 2021 gets us one step closer to the "perfect" high performance wheel. For 3+ years now we have watched this performance company skimp out and innovate an old idea (MS(x)) where they should be Inventing a new Unicycle. I bought the KS16x after doing over 100 hours of research to make sure I got the perfect beginner wheel, and it did not disappoint. The design just makes sense. Batteries on the sides, controller on top, and plenty of additional features. Now that I am ready to buy a high performance wheel I keep finding myself disappointed and unfortunately might end up settling for something I don't love. What I think would really steal the market is a 100V KingSong wheel, but I am predicting we are 2-3 years away from that. 

A GOOD WHEEL IS A COMPLETE WHEEL. For example, something I could walk my dog with (hop up and down curbs/stairs), Go to work/run errands at 40+ Mph, and ride bike trails on the weekends with 50% charge remaining after 30+ miles of hard riding. I am just not ready to hand over $3k for a product that isn't engineered well, nor has all the feature that should be standard on these devices. 

Specs we(I) would like to see: 

  1. $3000
  2. 20" (>5.5" peddle clearance)
  3. 40+ mph
  4. 2500 - 3000 Watt Hollow Bore Motor
  5. 2800 - 3600 Wh (depending on motor)
  6. Tough shell (& very water/dust resistant)
  7. Magnesium handle (centralized!)
  8. Good headlight and taillight (V11 standard) 
  9. LED lights (optional)
  10. Speaker (optional)
  11. App (optional) 

After reading this most people would probably say the Sherman is the closest EUC to this description, but the Sherman is not an off-road wheel, nor can you hop a curb due to it's roll bar sticking past the wheel; not to mention the lack of speaker, peddle clearance/tilting, lack of app, etc... I am not hating on this wheel because overall, it is a step in the right direction. It serves it's function as a bike path cruiser, but it is not the multi-functional wheel I was hoping for. 

Please share your thoughts and let me know if this is an unreasonable standard and why. What do you want to see in 2021? 

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I don't think it matters much what you post here. GW have not been present on this forum to my knowledge nor have they listened must to customers in the past. 

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17 hours ago, Unventor said:

I don't think it matters much what you post here. GW have not been present on this forum to my knowledge nor have they listened must to customers in the past. 

Yeah, think this behaviour is what caused Veteran to be created in the first place. Wish Gotway would up their game in the shell department. The biggest thing that bothers me about the Monster is the tail light. I wish it was just red :/ much better and saver than the disco they've got going on now.

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19 hours ago, Mito said:

Yeah, think this behaviour is what caused Veteran to be created in the first place. Wish Gotway would up their game in the shell department. The biggest thing that bothers me about the Monster is the tail light. I wish it was just red :/ much better and saver than the disco they've got going on now.

I have not had the opportunity to ride a monster. The new Monster Pro looks like it could be a "complete" wheel, but I really hope they updated the controller placement to the top allowing the packs to be evenly distributed for balance. How well can the Monster handle inclines/off-road/trials etc. ? 

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On 9/22/2020 at 7:20 PM, Unventor said:

I don't think it matters much what you post here. GW have not been present on this forum to my knowledge nor have they listened must to customers in the past. 

So I should be reaching out to Veteran? haha I feel like each company should have a "What you Want in a Wheel" thread for their customers... or just one big one with several Polls or a survey like... 

What size motor: 2000, 2500, 3000, 3500, 4000

What size Battery: 1800, 2200, 2600, 3200, 3600, 4000

Peddle height: 5, 5.5, 6, 6.5, 7

System Voltage: 84, 100 

Speakers: Yes, no

Led: Yes, no

handle, tire diameter, wheel thickness, etc. 

 

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Honestly i want something is a totally different direction.  I basically want a nikola+ with a saddle suspension. For me the wheel of my dreams is:

3000$ or less 

35 mph cruising-40mph max speed

16" tire for the torque and acceleration

Suspension system 

100+ mile range traveling at 20-25 mph

Built in redundancy with the BMS (similar to the new inmotiom system that can shut one pack down and run of the other, except im thinking 4 battery packs in this mythical dream wheel)

 

I want something with great pickup and great range that wont bang up my knees. 

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I think 20" is too big for an all-around wheel.  I also think Gotway needs to get the basics correct!

1) 16-18" wheel
2) Large battery (1.8kw like my Nik+ is ok)
3) Firmware upgradeable
4) Better build quality (My handle sensor is broken on one side out of the box and I don't want to take it apart to fix it)
5) RETAIL PRESENCE/SERVICE CENTERS IN USA OR EASY END USER REPAIRABILITY.
6) Easy battery replacements & tire changes
7) A WORKING APP with FIRMWARE UPGRADES
8) More safety/redundancy features in case of part failure <= true innovation!

I don't care (right now) about:

  • Suspension
  • 40mph+
  • HUGE battery
  • Side LEDS (Although a front/rear headlight would be better)
  • Speakers of any sort





 

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8 hours ago, RagingGrandpa said:

Hey there, Gotway has had short-circuit protection on the charging port since 2018, what's wrong with it?

I’d prefer not having 100v DC current on pins one can touch?

My home AC current has short circuit protection but the pins are not exposed.

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7 hours ago, null said:

I’d prefer not having 100v DC current on pins one can touch?

Touch it!
If your finger is dry, nothing happens.
If your finger is sweaty, tiny tingle.
(Please don't lick it...)

120VAC household mains power is 190V peak. Yes, touching that sucks.

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I’ll take your word for it, glad to hear :) 
Last year I accidentally vaporized a bit of a plier on a kick scooter GX16 (48v) since then I’m wary. I realize it’s not the same conductivity but still scary.

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51 minutes ago, null said:

Last year I accidentally vaporized a bit of plier on a kick scooter GX16 (48v)

Yes that's what really matters- "does the EUC let you melt things by accidentally shorting the charging port?"  Thankfully, Gotway doesn't.

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On 9/25/2020 at 3:40 AM, lirva said:

Suspension, Waterproofing and active balance bms.

Decent headlight and backlight, no rainbow disco leds!

I agree with an excellent head and tail light, but I would want the LED strips available as an option. I think it helps with visibility from the side during those cloudy days or right as the sun sets. Its still bright enough outside where you don't need your main lights on, but some LEDs help you stand out a bit more. 

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28 minutes ago, NickNonsense said:

EUC World let's you set the tilt back over that. 

....remembering that the tiltback speed isnt battery level dependant. So if you set it at 37mph or so (for a 100v msx) it wont even activate at 25% battery.

Thats why I dont use tiltback, only the 80% beep.

I am sure many people know this, I just wanted to make it clear in case someone relied on tiltback to save their ass at all battery percentages.

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1 hour ago, NickNonsense said:

I thought this was discussed before. EUC World let's you set the tilt back over that. 

Gotway app is junk anyway right. 

What about all the people who are on IOS platform? Does Darknessbot have a similar feature? and also I was hoping the 80% tilt back would adjust with voltage, which is what I was hoping for from the new models such as RS and Monster Pro

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