Popular Post RagingGrandpa Posted September 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 16, 2020 (edited) I've owned H5102, C-186, and K262. For street use, I like H5102's behavior, but I'm nervous with it around broken glass because the tread seems very thin. C-186 is actually more carefree on the street for me, since the thick tread seems so robust to damage (but carving is very different). I've ridden C-1488 and generally like it, but it wears out very fast. Other possibilities below- has anyone tried these? Thx __ Kenda K340, 2.75-14 35P: CST CM610 2.75-14 35P or 49P (not available in USA) : CST C6004 2.75-14 41P (thx @fbhb) : Longxin L841 2.75-14 41J tubeless (Lynx OEM tire) : Kenda K272 2.75-14 35P (not available in USA) : CST C137 2.75-14 41P : see @supercurio's note here CST C113 2.75-14 35P : @EMA likes it, fits nicely ContiScoot 80/90B14 46P (tubeless): Recalled; discontinued. Michelin Pilot Street 80/100B14 49L (tube; discontinued?) or 80/90 46P (tubeless) or 70/90 40P (tubeless) : Michelin Pilot Street 2 80/90-14 46S (tubeless) Michelin City Pro (not available in USA?) 80/90 14 46P - too wide for MSX/MSP . OK for RS and heavier EUCs. 70/90-14 40P - ez fit Michelin City Extra 80/90-14 46P (tubeless) - fits S22 rim nicely Michelin City Grip 2 M+S 90/90-14 52S (tubeless; tight fit, no 80mm width version) IRC NR77 80/90B14 40P (fits MSX/MSP but only if your shell is centered) 70/90B14 34P (more clearance) Avon AM63 Viper Stryke 80/90B14 40S : Bridgestone 80/90 -14 40P BATTLAX SC (tubeless) (thx @Steve Jo) or 70/90-14 34P (tubeless) (thx @XaBi) Eakia / Jiluer J-1836 18x3.0 : Jiluer 820 (J-820) 2.75-14 (tubeless) Kingsong S22 OEM tire ChaoYang H587 18x3.0 : ChaoYang H-666, 18x3.0 ewheels has stock again (May 2022) Poor fit on 60mm wide Sherman rims. CST C-1593 18x3.0 : (unknown) P218 2.75-14 35P : Shinko SR567 80/90-14 43P (tubeless) Shinko SR898 80/80-14 43P (tubeless) Shinko SR877 80/90-14 40P (tubeless) or 70/90-14 34P (tubeless) CST C6501 70/90-14 34P (Tube) 70/90-14 34P (Tubeless) 80/90-14 40P (Tube) 90/90-14 46P (Tube) Maxxis Victra S98 ST (Tubeless) 70/90-14 34S 80/90-14 40S 90/80-14 46P 90/90-14 46P 100/80-14 48P 100/90-14 57P @houseofjob also had a lovely reply to the Sherman thread: On 9/5/2020 at 9:34 PM, houseofjob said: Pirelli Angel (MotoSport) (CycleGear) if 3.15" wide fits: 80/80-14 (tubeless) 43S + Shane's review: https://forum.electricunicycle.org/topic/23019-pirelli-angel-808014-review-on-veteran-sherman/ Duro HF307 Trail (RevZilla) 2.75-14 - no overall diameter, but sidewall doesn't look too high, should fit Heidenau K66 4-Season (CycleGear) (RevZilla) if 3.15" wide fits: 80/80-14 (tubeless) 43J ... and full knobby, if that's your thing: Shinko 525 (BikeBandit) if 3.15" wide fits: 80/100-14 On 12/17/2023 at 6:42 PM, Ben S said: I created a tire spreadsheet in 2021 when hunting for tires with a 14" rim (for what is known as 18" or 20" EUCs). The one big point I want to make to you when searching for a tire is, don't get your heart set on a particular tire until you can find it in stock and shippable to your country. In my experience I found a lot of tires that looked like they had the tread I was looking for, but then I couldn't find them in stock. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1378VWqHSDkz6ba0q8JH39xgUJrBVdrHqGG4TbL5U78k/edit?usp=sharing Also beware, 14" EUC rims vary in width: Sherman-S bead width: 1.8" Sherman Max bead width: 1.79" MSuper Pro bead width: 1.17" Edited January 13 by RagingGrandpa (added L841) 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EMA Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 (edited) On 9/16/2020 at 7:30 PM, RagingGrandpa said: I've ridden C-1488 and generally like it, but it wears out very fast. really? i've more than 6000 km on mine and seems still fine, i really like it. h5102 has grip only on dry streets, still need to try the kenda k340 . Edited September 21, 2020 by EMA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RagingGrandpa Posted September 21, 2020 Author Share Posted September 21, 2020 (edited) My locals seem to smoke their C-1488 in the Nikola size in about 2000mi. MSuper size lasts a tad longer. Edited January 2 by RagingGrandpa 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EMA Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 that's really weird Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EMA Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 (edited) the 18' size could make so much difference ? 6500km in picture Edited December 9, 2020 by EMA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RagingGrandpa Posted September 21, 2020 Author Share Posted September 21, 2020 (edited) @mrelwood - in your experience, does the 80/100-14 street tire size fit MSuper's well? edit: it does not Edited June 2, 2021 by RagingGrandpa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EMA Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 probably yes, example : https://www.csttires.com/int/tire/cm610/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrelwood Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 12 minutes ago, RagingGrandpa said: @mrelwood - in your experience, does the 80/100-14 street tire size fit MSuper's well? I think 80/100 is usually a motocross size, but 80/90 and 80/80 should find suitable street and crossover tires. The actual tire diameters vary quite a lot from model to model though, so if one 80/90-14 fits, another 80/90-14 could be not even close. But I wouldn’t even try a motorcycle street tire on an EUC. H-5102 excluded, all factory install EUC tires are crossovers, so they are designed for both street and dirt. A MC tire is designed for many times the weight and speed of an EUC rider so they’re always made of harder rubber. You might find yourself with a tire that has worse grip than the H-5102 on wet or dirt roads. If you look at the Sherman street tire, it also has a lot of deep grooves to offer enough grip on dirt as well. I wouldn’t go slicker than that. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RagingGrandpa Posted September 21, 2020 Author Share Posted September 21, 2020 I now found the meaty sections of the other thread... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RagingGrandpa Posted October 7, 2020 Author Share Posted October 7, 2020 (edited) On 9/16/2020 at 1:30 PM, RagingGrandpa said: ContiScoot 80/90B14 46P : Nice example of the Contiscoot on MSRS: https://www.facebook.com/groups/ElectricUnicycle/permalink/3346498232114783/ Edited December 6, 2023 by RagingGrandpa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post houseofjob Posted October 7, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 7, 2020 @RagingGrandpa If you’re concerned about durability, you should stay away from mainland Chinese company tires (the usual EUC / electric scooter tire suspects in Kenda, Cheng-Shin CST, and Chao Yang CYT) if you can, since they run a little thin for tubed tires (on the flip side, this can also be good in cases where the EUC doesn’t have a lot of shell clearance). For street, one of our local NYC riders, who has been scooping up and trying every 14” and 17” tire known to man, has raved about the Michelin City Pro, saying its his favorite of the 10’s of tires he’s tried, easy to carving and great overall feel apparently. The 80/90-14 version is only available in Europe via listings like this eBay one. Albeit, this same rider just got his 14” rim tubes one for his Vet just recently, and said the rubber feels a tad softer than the tubeless 17” rim one he’s fitted on his Monsters. FWIW he has yet to report back if the actual ride feel of the 14” City Pro is any different. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planemo Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 On 10/7/2020 at 3:35 PM, RagingGrandpa said: Shipping on some MSPRS's now... It's rated for use as a tubeless tire, wonder if Gotway put a tube in it or if this is the first OEM Tubeless MSuper? Does anyone know if the wheel well on the RS is wider than the MSX? I wonder if the 80 width Conti would fit the MSX... And it would be easy to see if Gotway is running tubes or not - just look at the base of the valve for a rubber grommet 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyB Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 On 10/7/2020 at 7:35 AM, RagingGrandpa said: Shipping on some MSPRS's now... It's rated for use as a tubeless tire, wonder if Gotway put a tube in it or if this is the first OEM Tubeless MSuper? Thats not the oem tire, all RS's are coming with a CST-1488. Frank put that Conti on the day he got it. He did put a tube in it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Jo Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiori Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 @houseofjobhow did the city pro end up doing on the Sherman? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RagingGrandpa Posted January 7, 2021 Author Share Posted January 7, 2021 (edited) More references: On 12/26/2020 at 10:31 AM, Planemo said: Pilot in 80/90 My gut feeling is that this 80 width tyre is too wide for the skinny 30mm internal width MSX rim. I'm pretty sure thats a lot narrower than the small motorcycle rim its designed for. Now this might not be a problem, but it does mean the tyre is 'pulled in' more than it should be which makes for a very rounded profile. How this affects handling we shall see, but lets just say theres no way I will be getting anywhere near the edge of the tread lol. For the above reason, I am not sure that a 70 width would actually be much narrower once fitted. This one measures at just over 75mm, so only about 5mm wider than the stock H5102. The rim width is always going to limit just how wide any tyre will turn out. If someone has a 70 width Pilot fitted to an MSX/MSP it will be interesting to see ifs actually any narrower once fitted than this 80 width. I did get a few rubs on one side of the inner shell. I dremmeled away a shallow groove and its all but gone but I do want to spend some more time trying to centre the wheel a bit better and then try to centre the tyre. I pretty much just slapped it on and there is a bit of run-out which I am sure I can reduce.There is very little room to play with using this tyre, and because of that I don't think I could recommend it and therefore suggest that using the 70/90 version instead might be a better bet. As a note, my shell isn't particularly mis-aligned either - far less than some other MSX's I have seen. On 1/5/2021 at 8:36 PM, tumbla.jr said: IRC NR77 fitment is spot on (Could you both reply with riding impressions of those tires?) Edited January 7, 2021 by RagingGrandpa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tumbla.jr Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 36 minutes ago, RagingGrandpa said: More references: (Could you both reply with riding impressions of those tires?) I've only ridden about 60 miles now but its safe to say you will sacrifice some high speed maneuverability for added grip. Below 20mph it feels no different than the mmg or cst tires I've used. It is by far the quietest and smoothest tire I've used to date. No comment on wet weather grip yet but I will report back. It may be too soon to comment on the life of the tire or how durable it is but given how convenient it was and the cost I'd buy it again. I purchased it for just over $22 on amazon one Dec 30 and it has gone up in price since but it is still a bargain all things considered. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planemo Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 Still not ridden mine yet. The idea of riding in 1 degC doesnt fill me with enthusiasm. I might manage a short 30min ride at some point but a full review wont be coming from me until the weather sorts itself out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RagingGrandpa Posted January 12, 2021 Author Share Posted January 12, 2021 Does anyone know where to buy ChaoYang H5102 18x3 in the USA currently? My ali order showed up today and they duped me for a 1488 Thx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I2x2 Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 3 hours ago, RagingGrandpa said: Does anyone know where to buy ChaoYang H5102 18x3 in the USA currently? My ali order showed up today and they duped me for a 1488 Thx Same thing happened to me from Ali-store 222 but I kept the tire anyway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren0128 Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 On 1/12/2021 at 5:10 PM, RagingGrandpa said: Does anyone know where to buy ChaoYang H5102 18x3 in the USA currently? My ali order showed up today and they duped me for a 1488 Thx Not sure if it is legit or not.... found this on Amazon. I am in need of a new tire soon so I ordered one. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00SVA0YJI?psc=1&smid=A1EZQ4ENT08CFB&ref_=chk_typ_imgToDp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tumbla.jr Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Darren0128 said: Not sure if it is legit or not.... found this on Amazon. I am in need of a new tire soon so I ordered one. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00SVA0YJI?psc=1&smid=A1EZQ4ENT08CFB&ref_=chk_typ_imgToDp Looks similar to the irc but more $$. Edited March 23, 2021 by tumbla.jr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staxkz5z6 Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 On 9/16/2020 at 1:30 PM, RagingGrandpa said: Hoping for suggestions... I've owned H5102, C-186, and K262. For street use, I like H5102's behavior, but I'm nervous with it around broken glass because the tread seems very thin. C-186 is actually more carefree on the street for me, since the thick tread seems so robust to damage (but carving is very different). I've ridden C-1488 and generally like it, but it wears out very fast. Other possibilities below- has anyone tried these? Thx __ Kenda K340, 2.75-14 35P: CST CM610 2.75-14 35P or 49P (not available in USA) : CST C6004 2.75-14 41P (thx @fbhb) : Kenda K272 2.75-14 35P (not available in USA) : ContiScoot 80/90B14 46P (tubeless): (left, vs 1488 right) Michelin Pilot Street 80/100B14 49L (tube) or 80/90 46P (tubeless) or 70/90 40P (tubeless) : Michelin City Pro 80/90 14 46P (not available in USA?) IRC NR77 80/90B14 40P : Avon AM63 Viper Stryke 80/90B14 40S : Bridgestone 80/90 -14 40P BATTLAX SC (tubeless) (thx @Steve Jo) or 70/90-14 34P (tubeless) (thx @XaBi) Eakia J1836 18x3.0 : ChaoYang H587 18x3.0 : CST C-1593 18x3.0 : @houseofjob also had a lovely reply to the Sherman thread: So which one of these would be the best option for all year riding on a msp tubeless ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RagingGrandpa Posted March 24, 2021 Author Share Posted March 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Staxkz5z6 said: best option for all year riding on a msp tubeless? Best? There's no such thing New York winter? If you need to push though slush and snow, get an AT tire like K262. (This thread is about street tires.) Tubeless on the tiny MSuper rim? Bad idea... buddy did it and unseated the bead with a relatively tame curb drop. Walking home sucks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staxkz5z6 Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 5 hours ago, RagingGrandpa said: Best? There's no such thing New York winter? If you need to push though slush and snow, get an AT tire like K262. (This thread is about street tires.) Tubeless on the tiny MSuper rim? Bad idea... buddy did it and unseated the bead with a relatively tame curb drop. Walking home sucks. K262 you have a link ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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