Finn Bjerke Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 (edited) Inmotion v11 and Kingsong s18 are fixing some errors from batch 1 it seems. So dont be a first mover on EUCs. The most important fix I guess is this one: The plastic saddle is attached to the metal frame (that forms the handle) with two screws, one in front and one in the back on each side. (On the top side. There are more attachment points bellow, where the batteries starts.) And apparently, the attachment points are thin pieces of plastic and can break, so the saddle is no longer attached at the top. (See the pic, the broken hole on the left should be around of the screw.) I guess this can happen if you lean too much against the saddle and put too much pressure. But overall the construction could be better and it will be in batch 2, according to interveiw with Inmotion CEO in blackcobras channel on youtube. From Germany more info: The saddle at the top of the V11 gives room for the suspension system to move up and down, smoothing out bumps and drops. There is thin rubber padding attached to a plastic shell at the top of the saddle for your knees. Not enough padding to grip or leverage, but just enough to add a little comfort to your knees. The apex of the saddle is attached to a sturdy metal frame which connects the suspension system, saddle, and handle. Where the saddle meets the handle there are 4 attachment points using screws and I see these areas as points of weakness in the body, especially during falls, especially if the saddle were to roll over or suffer a direct impact during a fall.https://oneradwheel.com/comprehensive-inmotion-v11-review/ So that will be fixed, look RRRRrrrrrrrrrrright here: Steel layer will be added to the newer v11. Batch 1 is plastic that keeps breaking --- batch 2 will be stronger. .... A few replacements for the older broken ones well be send out. A more advanced solution is possible using glue Liam says.... (IM confused here) Inmotion IS LISTENING us. Watch that video freinds. New watch and sidepads for Inmotion v11. is also in the making. Hsiangs wheel catastrophe was manhole cover and not landing properly ????? Inmotion v12 will have external extra battery for longer rides..... 100V is in the future plans of Inmotion. This is good fun: Edited September 4, 2020 by Finn Bjerke better 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn Bjerke Posted September 4, 2020 Author Share Posted September 4, 2020 Also the bearing is fixed in batch 2. (mopst folks know that I guess...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn Bjerke Posted September 4, 2020 Author Share Posted September 4, 2020 the "Sudden derath" issue was not really adressed? But the wheel is for climbing a 35 degrees ancle..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spooky Chaser Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 That was fixed in (I think) the first batch of production units with a new board. He tested the hill with the pre-production unit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skywalker Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 Is there enough room to epoxy a steel insert in the top saddle screw holes to re-enforce? If I can prevent the break that would would be great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musk Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 10 hours ago, Skywalker said: Is there enough room to epoxy a steel insert in the top saddle screw holes to re-enforce? If I can prevent the break that would would be great. Although many people have mentioned a metal insert solution, I can't imagine it would fix anything since the forces would be transferred to the plastic in the same fashion as the current design. Putting loads of epoxy around it should work though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skywalker Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 Will try epoxy. Thanks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn Bjerke Posted September 9, 2020 Author Share Posted September 9, 2020 Why cant Inmotion figure that out? Glue is stronger that 2 screws? what is the problem here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoGeorgeGo Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 (edited) 9 hours ago, Finn Bjerke said: Why cant Inmotion figure that out? Glue is stronger that 2 screws? what is the problem here? Its a cost thing, they probably have a ton of saddles already manufactured. Throwing a metal insert is way cheaper than retooling all the saddles and they are to professional to slather epoxy all over it to "fix" the saddles. This will continue to be a problem until the finish using all of the first batch of produced saddles. Im sure they will reinforce the design for the next tooling Edited September 9, 2020 by GoGeorgeGo Me no spell good 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreygun Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 Anybody have pics of their saddle "fix"? Holding up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtnub Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 On 9/14/2020 at 8:48 AM, Dreygun said: Anybody have pics of their saddle "fix"? Holding up? I recall seeing some pictures of fixes on the Telegram group and I think so far they've held up what they've done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreygun Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 53 minutes ago, gtnub said: I recall seeing some pictures of fixes on the Telegram group and I think so far they've held up what they've done. Got those ones. Was curious what others have tried and if anything else has worked out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musk Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 On 9/9/2020 at 12:59 PM, GoGeorgeGo said: Its a cost thing, they probably have a ton of saddles already manufactured. Throwing a metal insert is way cheaper than retooling all the saddles and they are to professional to slather epoxy all over it to "fix" the saddles. This will continue to be a problem until the finish using all of the first batch of produced saddles. Im sure they will reinforce the design for the next tooling I wonder what this metal insert is. It can't just be a tube inside the existing hole, since that would accomplish nothing. It would need to be a metal insert which is inserted into the mold before the plastic is injected, and the shape of the metal insert would need to loop around the screw hole and extend outward into the body of the surrounding area so spread out the forces. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EUChristian Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 On 9/15/2020 at 8:00 PM, musk said: I wonder what this metal insert is. It can't just be a tube inside the existing hole, since that would accomplish nothing. It would need to be a metal insert which is inserted into the mold before the plastic is injected, and the shape of the metal insert would need to loop around the screw hole and extend outward into the body of the surrounding area so spread out the forces. I immediately imagined this to simply be a washer glued to the inside of the saddle where the screw passes through and it distributes impact equally over a larger area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fbhb Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 (edited) 23 minutes ago, EUChristian said: I immediately imagined this to simply be a washer glued to the inside of the saddle where the screw passes through and it distributes impact equally over a larger area. An image was posted in the other V11 thread, although I'm not sure of it's origins but believe it to be from someone's more recently acquired V11 from the factory! Very Low Tech and does not appear to be a very solid long term solution, so hopefully re-tooling the molds once all the current saddles have been used up may see a properly implemented metal insert, instead of plastic! Edited September 19, 2020 by fbhb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn Bjerke Posted September 19, 2020 Author Share Posted September 19, 2020 (edited) that sadle fix is dumber than Donald Trump...... Its even dumber than me and my neighbours dog. Edited September 19, 2020 by Finn Bjerke 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoGeorgeGo Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Finn Bjerke said: that sadle fix is dumber than Donald Trump...... Its even dumber than me and my neighbours dog. Well they did say they where about to ship a mass production of wheels. Means they have a mass production of saddles already made and waiting. Cheaper and faster to add this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skywalker Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 I have epoxied m5 stainless steel washers with jb weld clear weld to each side of hole then applied epoxy over the top of the insert hole. Still holding up after a couple of falls. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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