xorbe Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 Seems like both their scooter and unicycle product list has shrunk. No Dualtron products. No Monster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AtlasP Posted September 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 4, 2020 (edited) On 9/3/2020 at 9:59 PM, xorbe said: Seems like both their scooter and unicycle product list has shrunk. No Dualtron products. No Monster. From what I hear, ewheels is doing fantastic--actually growing quite a bit. The market is rapidly evolving/always changing, and as such ewheels is always revising their lineup in response to those changes (and quite responsively at that; adding new wheels, consolidating the number of configurations of any particular model down to just the subset that sell, eventually removing old models entirely, etc). One major difference between ewheels and many other shops is that they do so much more volume that they have no problem clearing old stock--so their store doesn't keep old things past when they're relevant just because they can't move them, whereas the smaller shops tend to have more old wheels for longer before they finally manage to get rid of them. (You see this a lot with "V2's" of different wheels as ewheels both sells out of the old ones and gets/starts selling the new ones before competitors who are still selling old ones they have left.) This is compounded by the volatility of the lineups of the manufacturers themselves. (For example this past year Gotway abandoned 84v configurations on anything bigger than the Tesla--no more 84v Nikola, 84v MSX, 84v Monster, etc--pretty much conceding the high-end 84v market and putting all their eggs into the 100v basket. Etc. I guess if you didn't know this then it would look like a bunch of wheel SKUs just disappeared, and yet these disappearances have nothing to do with ewheels/other retailers.) The Monster is just sold out and either Gotway isn't making more V3's or ewheels chose not to order more until the release of the updated Monster Pro sometime in the next couple months (i.e. we're just between models). I don't follow the scooter side to know anything about Dualtron, but there has to be some reasons for which makes/models ewheels chooses to sell (which can also be due to business reasons like complications dealing with different manufacturers). Etc. Honestly I think ewheels' EUC lineup right now is in a fantastic state, streamlined yet complete--they really have everything someone might reasonably want, and most of the outdated/no-longer-relevant stuff is now gone--particularly once they get the new Monster in, the spectrum will be fully complete again. And in good shape to add the next generation as we start hearing about them into the next year (Actually if you want to watch my notes/documenting the changes to ewheels' lineup, I began posting updates about it in the later part of this thread: https://forum.electricunicycle.org/topic/17309-up-to-date-euc-comparison-table/ ) Edited September 12, 2020 by AtlasP 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spooky Chaser Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 a LOT of distributors stopped selling the Monster due to the much higher chance of problems on the wheel. It's one of the most error prone wheels made recently. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houseofjob Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 (edited) 12 hours ago, xorbe said: Seems like both their scooter and unicycle product list has shrunk. No Dualtron products. No Monster. If you pay attention to the business and look at things with a business mindset, you might figure out what's actually going on here All new Gotway models, including the inexplicable RS "upgrade" from MSX/MSP, are going hollow bore motor. Perhaps instead of being just an "upgrade", it's moreso a change in motor supplier for a small mom & pop company that is famous for streamlining their whole product line for cost efficiency. Maybe it might not be the greatest thing to restock legacy product, especially if it's not efficient to procure more legacy axled motors, and with a newer large tire model on the way(?) MiniMotors (Dualtron parent company), if you've payed attention to the scooter world, is notorious for bad QC, and is not the most straightforward to deal with. Then you see outfits like minimotorsusa, usaminimotors eating into the US scooter market, piggybacking on the namesake. Then you see eWheels is running with their own TurboWheel branded line, with social media promotion. Try connecting the dots here Edited September 4, 2020 by houseofjob 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Kim Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 eWheels lost their ability to sell minimotors because the “official” vendors complained about them. No big loss, Minimotors scooters (and scooters in general) are unreliable pieces of junk. For all the problems we complain about with our EUCs, they are nothing compared to what the scooter problems look like. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blicky Te⚡️la Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 9 hours ago, Spook Chaser said: a LOT of distributors stopped selling the Monster due to the much higher chance of problems on the wheel. It's one of the most error prone wheels made recently. Wow, is this true? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtlasP Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 (edited) On 9/4/2020 at 6:34 PM, Blicky Te⚡️la said: Wow, is this true? I know of pretty regular issues with Monster axles and cases, but I wouldn't know how any of us would quantify without word from someone like ewheels or speedyfeet. Edited September 12, 2020 by AtlasP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreakOut13 Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 I remember on this forum them mentioning how well the pandemic has been for their business. I believe they said people wanting PEVs are wanted to keep people out of public transportation. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agronick Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 They might be having growing pains. I know someone who shipped a broken wheel to them a few weeks ago and still hasn't gotten an update as of Friday. The mud guard for the MSP I got weeks ago hasn't shown up and I haven't heard anything about it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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