NYC One Roll Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 What do you recommend to replace the stock MSP tires with ? I heard the H666 is a great tire but they are not making it anymore for the MSP. Mostly street riding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EMA Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 (edited) CST 1488 stock tire is really good on street and probably is the best street tire with you can do off-road too, compared to the H666 has more gyro effect that you'll feel at higher speed. probably h5102 (stock msx tire) is the most similar to the H666 feeling, really good on street, bad on other surfaces Edited August 27, 2020 by EMA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuerte Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 Do people have links to where the tire is sold for US customers? I have an MSX 100V and I would like to change the tire as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrelwood Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 On 8/27/2020 at 10:53 AM, EMA said: probably h5102 (stock msx tire) is the most similar to the H666 feeling, really good on street, bad on other surfaces Interesting. I don’t get the H-666 vibe from the H-5102, at all. If anything, the MSP original C-1488 on the V11 sometimes reminds me of the H-666. The Sherman street tire could be interesting as well, if the H-666 is tough to find, or if you just want an alternative. I’m not sure if Kuji’s experiences on it are solely the tire’s fault, it could be that it’s just a bad combo with the Sherman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheseusMinor Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 On 8/27/2020 at 9:53 AM, EMA said: compared to the H666 has more gyro effect that you'll feel at higher speed. What's the cause of gyro in the shape of a tyre? More width and surface contact? I'm a gyro enthusiast hunting for gyro-ful tyres on AliExpress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
null Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, TheseusMinor said: What's the cause of gyro in the shape of a tyre? As I understand (and to keep it short), the profile tending towards a square, because when tilted it requires effort to lift up on its edge. (tilt a cube vs tilt a sphere). Reinforced sidewalls participate by not letting the side walls caving in. A car style tire should be extreme Edited November 25, 2020 by null 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EMA Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 2 hours ago, TheseusMinor said: What's the cause of gyro in the shape of a tyre? More width and surface contact? I'm a gyro enthusiast hunting for gyro-ful tyres on AliExpress. i agree with @null the shape it's the biggest factor, if you like gyro go for the stock cst 1488: it's light (good range), soft and really good in off-road too. [ i hope to try the kenda k340 soon (EX tire) seems good ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
null Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 The first KS16X tyre was also very gyro-ish, maybe that one could be found? Brand unknown.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyB Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 11 hours ago, TheseusMinor said: What's the cause of gyro in the shape of a tyre? More width and surface contact? I'm a gyro enthusiast hunting for gyro-ful tyres on AliExpress. What size do you need? The Michelin Pilot 80/90-14 on my RS has the most gyro effect of any tire I've ridden, but I've never ridden a Contiscoot and apparently they are heavier. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheseusMinor Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 45 minutes ago, JeremyB said: What size do you need? 16x3". 10 hours ago, null said: The first KS16X tyre was also very gyro-ish, maybe that one could be found? Brand unknown I've already ordered the first batch 16X tyre (Dalishen cx321). I'm excited to try the side pendulum swings at high speeds, and suicidal leaning when cornering - like I do on my Z10 but with the more cushioned and agile personality of the 16X - although I am aware that it's less gyro-ish than the Z, which is probably a good thing. The Z10's tendency to follow the tread, making me wobble in narrow 8 inch bike trails, should be reduced too in a 16X with the cx321 tyre. This tendency is aggravating when you just want a tranquil cruise in Nature. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheseusMinor Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 I'm going to give away the Z10 to my little brother. The 16X has taken the role of general purpose and commuting wheel. Now I'm torn between getting a wheel that is specifically for off-road versus one that is specifically for long range. For the former purpose, the S18 with it's lightweight maneuverability and exceptional suspension is attractive but I'd like to see how the wheel holds up over 12 months of use from other riders.. For long distance rides in farmlands and wilderness outbacks, I'd get a Begode EX or a Sherman. Whichever of these alternatives has the most gyro-ish tyre available (stock or aftermarket) will probably convince me which purpose EUC to prioritise buying next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rawnei Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 I'm running with a Kenda K262 knobby tire and loving it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Jo Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 MSP with knobby tyre and MSX with Bridgestone Battlax SC 80/90-14 (40P) SC1F 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rawnei Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 6 minutes ago, Steve Jo said: MSP with knobby tyre and MSX with Bridgestone Battlax SC 80/90-14 (40P) SC1F Yo! Is that a light mod I spy on the MSP? I'm guessing to reduce glare, was it difficult to do? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Jo Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 10 hours ago, Rawnei said: Yo! Is that a light mod I spy on the MSP? I'm guessing to reduce glare, was it difficult to do? Well, actually not a light mod but it's just a glue to minimise shell vibration from the fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XaBi Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 On 12/7/2020 at 12:41 PM, Steve Jo said: MSP with knobby tyre and MSX with Bridgestone Battlax SC 80/90-14 (40P) SC1F Hi! Im going to replace the tyre on my MSX and was looking to that Bridgestone; do you recommend it? Is it a good upgrade compared to the default one? thanks! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Jo Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 On 12/18/2020 at 10:52 AM, XaBi said: Hi! Im going to replace the tyre on my MSX and was looking to that Bridgestone; do you recommend it? Is it a good upgrade compared to the default one? thanks! I would NOT go back to default tyre definitely ...I definitely recommend it ....please be mindful, the tyre is definitely heavier than default one 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XaBi Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 Will buy then! Will let you know how it rides! Now I need to know exactly how to replace the tyre on the msx; seems it’s not rocket science. Do you know any video or guide to follow? thanks again! 😊 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Jo Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 2 hours ago, XaBi said: Will buy then! Will let you know how it rides! Now I need to know exactly how to replace the tyre on the msx; seems it’s not rocket science. Do you know any video or guide to follow? thanks again! 😊 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XaBi Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 thanks for that! now i have everything for the tyre swap :-) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planemo Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 On 12/19/2020 at 3:30 AM, Steve Jo said: I would NOT go back to default tyre definitely ...I definitely recommend it ....please be mindful, the tyre is definitely heavier than default one No kidding. I have been looking around at slicker tyres for the MSX and primarily these all seem to be tubeless MC tyres. One of them (can't remember which) was showing just under 2.5kg!! I haven't weighed a stock H5102 yet to compare, but that sounds like a lot to me. I really want to fit an 80/90-14 Pilot or Battlax SC but I am still concerned about how much harder it will make the ride given the stiffness of MC tubeless tyres. I know the Michelin City Pro can be found in a tubed version but it's not as slick as I would like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Jo Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Planemo said: No kidding. I have been looking around at slicker tyres for the MSX and primarily these all seem to be tubeless MC tyres. One of them (can't remember which) was showing just under 2.5kg!! I haven't weighed a stock H5102 yet to compare, but that sounds like a lot to me. I really want to fit an 80/90-14 Pilot or Battlax SC but I am still concerned about how much harder it will make the ride given the stiffness of MC tubeless tyres. I know the Michelin City Pro can be found in a tubed version but it's not as slick as I would like. You can try deflating tyre psi and it should work fine...beside I feel middle tread of this tyre is soft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planemo Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 Cheers, yeah but I don't want it to get like the Z10, where the tyre is so stiff you have to run like 10psi to give any compliance. I would want to try and stay away from that on the MSX really. 'Compliance' is all so subjective between riders I really need to just get one and try it I 'spose. I just love how compliant the H5102 is at 25psi though, it rides beautifully and I am reluctant to risk reducing that by a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Jo Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 7 hours ago, Planemo said: Cheers, yeah but I don't want it to get like the Z10, where the tyre is so stiff you have to run like 10psi to give any compliance. I would want to try and stay away from that on the MSX really. 'Compliance' is all so subjective between riders I really need to just get one and try it I 'spose. I just love how compliant the H5102 is at 25psi though, it rides beautifully and I am reluctant to risk reducing that by a lot. I rode Z10 quite a lot before and I know exactly what you mean :)...it was nothing close to that feeling of riding Z10 i have 23 psi on my current tyre now and it just feels good 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planemo Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 Thanks great info, thanks! The comparison you are able to give, having ridden the Z10 is worth a lot So heres the kicker... would you say that 23psi on the Battlax feels much harder than the stock MSX? I know this is the million dollar question and hard to answer, but anything you can provide would really help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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