Mrd777 807 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 (edited) 1 hour ago, EUC Addict said: I'm aware of at least 20+ riders on the West Coast that are excited about receiving their Monster Pro. In addition, Marty said he was planning to buy one after riding EUCO's demo Monster Pro. I'm not alone. My order was canceled last week by Chicway after paying and ordering it in August. Their excuse was they felt like it was too "risky to ship being it had many issues". Im sure the other reason is they weren't comfortable with the discounted price we agreed upon in August. Huge hassle getting my money back.. (never again) What a drag, looks like I will start over to get this wheel, if I even want it now... Edited February 16 by Mrd777 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post meepmeepmayer 13,015 Posted February 16 Popular Post Share Posted February 16 Just now, Mrd777 said: My order was canceled by Chicway after paying and ordering it in August. Their excuse was they felt like it was too "risky to ship being it had many issues". When even the Ali sellers don't want to bother with the Monster Pro QC... I'd wait a bit before I buy one! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post AtlasP 1,594 Posted February 16 Popular Post Share Posted February 16 5 minutes ago, meepmeepmayer said: When even the Ali sellers don't want to bother with the Monster Pro QC... I'd wait a bit before I buy one! ROFL, that's a new low. "Gotway--too sketchy even for AliExpress.." Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Mango 217 Posted February 16 Popular Post Share Posted February 16 All (or most) of the good engineers left Gotway so that leaves a vacuum of talent at the company. It’s not like you can just go out to hire new euc firmware engineers lol or battery specialists. Gotway quality will suffer (even more) and I think the Monster Pro is the by-product of this. I’d stay away from this wheel and any new Gotway wheel for a while. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WI_Hedgehog 512 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 (edited) Gotway had a lot of issues, and I'd bet not respecting their customers resulted in not respecting their employees, who eventually left. I wanted a Monster, issues delayed my purchase, and the result of reports is I won't be buying any Be-Goaty / Gotway products. Edited February 16 by WI_Hedgehog Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post NickNonsense 82 Posted February 17 Popular Post Share Posted February 17 I won't be buying any more from them. Thinking they they on borrowed time anyway. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WI_Hedgehog 512 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 2 hours ago, NickNonsense said: Thinking they they on borrowed time anyway. That's unfortunately a strong possibility. While their renound lack of quality kept me from buying one they did drive the market to make faster wheels. I learned a lot from Gotway by them setting examples of "what not to do." The Monster was going to be that "hold your nose and do it" purchase... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steve O 5 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 On 2/16/2021 at 2:40 PM, AtlasP said: ROFL, that's a new low. "Gotway--too sketchy even for AliExpress.." I have laughed this hard in a while!! Thanks!!🤣🤣 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ben Kim 1,251 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 (edited) On 2/1/2021 at 11:04 PM, EUC Addict said: I take no issues with people comparing wheels out of class, I do it myself. Specifically went a ride last week to ride the Monster Pro and Sherman side by side because I wanted to see how they compared; however, I wouldn't use the Veteran as a benchmark for the Monster Pro. The Sherman is not, and cannot be, a standard for wheel that is much larger. I think it would be allowable for the Veteran to be the standard in QC if that were the case. Things that would have universal application to all wheels. If you haven't had the opportunity to ride both, then I recommend taking the first chance you get. The wheels feel so different. I had never ridden the Sherman prior to stating they wheels weren't in the same class just based on the physics of the wheels, but after riding them side by side I am now utterly convinced they are different enough to where it would be like comparing a Veteran to a King Song 16X (I'm thinking more of how size impacts performance and handling). Interestingly enough the Sherman is now $3000 at eWheels and the Monster Pro can be purchased for $3400 from FreeMotion, it the gap appears to closing. I'll be curious if the price of the Veteran continues to go up. It's had three price changes since it's come out. I will soon own both wheels, but as a former Monster V3 owner I didn’t feel the increase in comfort was night and day over a Vet Sherman; and I surmise going to a 24 incher won’t change my mind. Edited February 23 by Ben Kim Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EUC Addict 192 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 Monster Pro firmware update surprises The firmware update was discovered by accident during Marty Backe’s Monster Pro range test. For the first 57 miles the Monster Pro (56.6 miles; 87.8v) was performing nearly the same as the Sherman (57 miles; 87.4v). Marty was hoping to hit 100 miles, but by all appearances the Monster Pro looked like it was going to be bested by the Sherman’s smaller battery. Things took an unexpected turn though on day two. About 20 miles into the ride, Marty noticed the Monster Pro (80.6 miles; 84v) was beginning to pull ahead of the Sherman (79 miles; 81.8v). The surprises didn’t stop there. The Monster Pro (94 miles; 78v) soon surpassed the Sherman (93.5 miles; 75.8v) range test. (Read more) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WI_Hedgehog 512 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 (edited) It's not like BeGoaty did an Over-The_Air update request through their Bluetooth app.... Edited February 23 by WI_Hedgehog Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tawpie 776 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 1 hour ago, EUC Addict said: For the first 57 miles the Monster Pro (56.6 miles; 87.8v) was performing nearly the same as the Sherman (57 miles; 87.4v) I don't know what the conditions were for the Sherman test but day 1 of the Monster Pro run was pretty windy. Wind and range do not get along. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EUC Addict 192 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 4 minutes ago, Tawpie said: day 1 of the Monster Pro run was pretty windy. Marty's first attempt at the range test was aborted. He redid it on Saturday and Sunday. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tawpie 776 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 ah. I knew he titled it 'aborted', but didn't follow up! Appreciate the clarification/correction. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
xorbe 423 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 13 hours ago, Tawpie said: ah. I knew he titled it 'aborted', but didn't follow up! Appreciate the clarification/correction. There's a new video now, 101 miles. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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meepmeepmayer 13,015 Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 (edited) Review video by @Alien Rides. He likes it. I guess tastes are different between various people. Also starting his own EUC/PEV shop with 2 year warranty (US)! https://alienrides.com/ I sure hope selling Begodes doesn't sabotage that endeavour Edited March 12 by meepmeepmayer Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shellac 290 Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 21 hours ago, meepmeepmayer said: Also starting his own EUC/PEV shop with 2 year warranty (US)! https://alienrides.com/ I sure hope selling Begodes doesn't sabotage that endeavour Pretty cool. On a side note, it’s kind of weird that the various warranties have a time limit but no mileage limit like you would expect on a vehicle. So I guess they’ll still cover it under warranty even if you ride for many thousands of miles in the 2 years. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post meepmeepmayer 13,015 Posted March 13 Popular Post Share Posted March 13 4 minutes ago, shellac said: Pretty cool. On a side note, it’s kind of weird that the various warranties have a time limit but no mileage limit like you would expect on a vehicle. So I guess they’ll still cover it under warranty even if you ride for many thousands of miles in the 2 years. I think mileage means little on a EUC. If something is wrong, it's often right away. Bad board or battery or whatever, from the start. But past that phase, not much that tends to break. Or can break. Hardly any wear and tear just from usage, unlike cars for example. So 6 months or 2 years warranty - probably no big difference for the seller. But it assures the buyers and is a nice unique selling point. Also, what mileage should it be? I can't make up a number that somehow makes more sense than any other number. 1000, 2000, 5000? It's just easier for everyone to not have a pointless mileage limitation. That's my guess. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Scottie888 776 Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 Makes sense for wheels not to have a mileage limitation. In NA at least, most have an auto of sorts & wheels are more recreational mix than pure commuter. Also its likely that many will have multiple wheels so mileage is again spread across the spectrum esp. for the big heavy cruiser Mpro. Who will take it to the corner store? Don't forget that a large portion of NA's population lives in the snow belt as well which will ground most PEVs for a few months at least. Regardless at most, I can see one putting on ave 2k miles & that's using it intensely. Which is nothing for autos which ave 12-15k miles/yr. My concern's what does the warranty cover & what limitations are there. Nonetheless its darn fine selling point so kudos to Alienrides! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hansolo 1,105 Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 Subtitles FR & EN are available Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Yvan 67 Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 In addition to plugging the fan's exhaust hole, I increased the cooling opening on the back. The fan is now blowing on the motherboard. Result: waterproof and efficient Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nivel 5 Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 What's up with Monster Pro production, is it ongoing or is it on hold? Can't find it in stock anywhere... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Killian253 6 Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 Mine will be here tomorrow. Free motion shop has them in stock. I was told its the latest revision with battery fuses, new control board, new bearing manufacturer,and controller completely covered up under the case. Will report back tomorrow. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Yvan 67 Posted April 16 Popular Post Share Posted April 16 Congratulations Killian253. I received mine 2 weeks ago, 800klm already, and over 7500klm on monster v2. With my 66 kilograms, I had to adapt the monster pro with longer pedals and very wide power pads, moreover I roll with the right foot a lot more in the front than the left. So I install the right pad further to the front and the left further to the rear, as high as possible on the wheel. In addition, I calibrate the wheel with a small angle to the rear, with the normal driving mode (not hard). I get remarkable braking results, stronger acceleration, more stability and more comfort. All with minimal effort. To conclude, this wheel requires adaptation, driving much more with the knees than with the feet. The understanding that it is useless to lean forward to accelerate but to push the wheel backwards, and vice versa for braking. It is not for the off-road, but on the road it is by far the undisputed king. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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