"Veteran" New brand of high performance EUC's

[Ben Kim]

17 minutes ago, houseofjob said:

That's good you're still OK with TO-220, and TBF, the issue was of course glue, but also if not for that, the chronic lack of addressing overheating concerns like proper airflow, exhaust, etc.

I'm of the mind they should be over-engineering, not under-engineering / just getting by with the bare minimum, so we'll see if this is Veteran's modus operandi.

How many wheels have gone on the fritz so far in the past few weeks cause of the heat?  What's the common denominator?  Cooling.  One thing that doesn't seem to get mentioned is how well that wheel held up yesterday with 50+ people riding it, speed runs, send runs, drops, jumps, and that board kept on going.  I'm actually very impressed how well that wheel survived the abuse it took from the NYC riders purposely abusing it.  For the average person who spends their own money on these things, this wheel should be quite reliable! 

[houseofjob]

4 minutes ago, Ben Kim said:

How many wheels have gone on the fritz so far in the past few weeks cause of the heat?  What's the common denominator?  Cooling.  One thing that doesn't seem to get mentioned is how well that wheel held up yesterday with 50+ people riding it, speed runs, send runs, drops, jumps, and that board kept on going.  I'm actually very impressed how well that wheel survived the abuse it took from the NYC riders purposely abusing it.  For the average person who spends their own money on these things, this wheel should be quite reliable! 

LOL #VeteranCheerleader #VeteranHypeMan

Like I've told you before, it's a marathon, not a race, can't compare wheels that have actually had real world miles on them with a fresh new wheel.

[Ben Kim]

Just now, houseofjob said:

LOL #VeteranCheerleader #VeteranHypeMan

Like I've told you before, it's a marathon, not a race, can't compare wheels that have actually had real world miles on them with a fresh new wheel.

Those guys should hire me as their PR guy I already pump their product up for free and probably got them a few sales in the process.  LOL

[Michael Tucker]

1 hour ago, Rywokast said:

 

This video is definitive proof that riders should be leery of this wheel's prowess, despite the rugged facade.

Some riders at the meet-up said they saw 50% voltage sag under heavy load. If Alex (the rider who fell) was 280lbs, was riding aggressive, fast and "heavy" on that bump with a wheel that was already at 60% battery (stated by observers of still screen images), voltage sag could have put the battery at just 10%. Which would explain a cut-out of a high powered wheel at relatively low speed with no damaged internal components.

[Ben Kim]

7 minutes ago, Michael Tucker said:

This video is definitive proof that riders should be leery of this wheel's prowess, despite the rugged facade.

Some riders at the meet-up said they saw 50% voltage sag under heavy load. If Alex (the rider who fell) was 280lbs, was riding aggressive, fast and "heavy" on that bump with a wheel that was already at 60% battery (stated by observers of still screen images), voltage sag could have put the battery at just 10%. Which would explain a cut-out of a high powered wheel at relatively low speed with no damaged internal components.

It explains where all this power is coming from actually.  50% voltage sag from a 10p pack indicates that indeed this wheel consumes much more power than anything Gotway came out with.  Even in a worst case scenario I can't get a Gotway 100V wheel to sag more than 9V (and that's Winter with subfreezing temps).

Another issue is we do not have actual voltage numbers since there is no app support on this wheel yet.  Nobody really knows what those bars on the wheel indicator actually mean.

Edited June 22, 2020 by Ben Kim

[houseofjob]

1 hour ago, Ben Kim said:

Those guys should hire me as their PR guy I already pump their product up for free and probably got them a few sales in the process.  LOL

That's exactly why they won't: you're working for free!! 

[erk1024]

4 hours ago, Michael Tucker said:

This video is definitive proof that riders should be leery of this wheel's prowess, despite the rugged facade.

Some riders at the meet-up said they saw 50% voltage sag under heavy load. If Alex (the rider who fell) was 280lbs, was riding aggressive, fast and "heavy" on that bump with a wheel that was already at 60% battery (stated by observers of still screen images), voltage sag could have put the battery at just 10%. Which would explain a cut-out of a high powered wheel at relatively low speed with no damaged internal components.

I wonder if this is just an issue with the riding mode, and not power related. Maybe the "soft" is too soft. Gotway wheel's riding mode tend to be hard and harder. That's a disturbing amount of tilt though.

Edited June 22, 2020 by erk1024

[Marty Backe]

I thought you guys would get a kick out of this "slice of life while testing the Veteran". Only in New York 
 

 

[Jon Stern]

33 minutes ago, Marty Backe said:

I thought you guys would get a kick out of this "slice of life while testing the Veteran". Only in New York 
 

 

What was that about?

[Marty Backe]

56 minutes ago, Jon Stern said:

What was that about?

The guy cut him off with his car. Either the Veteran/Tarzan hit his car or they exchanged words. And I guess that pissed off the car driver.

Edited June 23, 2020 by Marty Backe

[onizukagto]

1 hour ago, Marty Backe said:

I thought you guys would get a kick out of this "slice of life while testing the Veteran". Only in New York 
 

 

that's a surprisingly gentlemen fight.  no punches,  just a quick wrestle on the tarmac, finished with a choke hold and tap out. sideline ref politely hands back the drivers phone and everyone moves on.

are you sure this was in New York?  

getting back on topic,  where is the footage of the veteran cutting off the driver?

that's what I wanna see,  euc action please. heh

Edited June 23, 2020 by onizukagto
sepellingy

[Mango]

Another NY minute. Lots of interesting things coming out of New York with regards to EUC and Veteran lately. At least Tarzan is wearing a helmet now.

 

”Sorry” and a smile would have dissolved the tension but I guess it’s a regional thing.

 

On positive news, I got email saying my Veteran Sherman has shipped from China.  Only several weeks wait... 

[Marty Backe]

3 minutes ago, onizukagto said:

that's a surprisingly gentlemen fight.  no punches,  just a quick wrestle on the tarmac, finished with a choke hold and tap out. sideline ref politely hands back the drivers phone and everyone moves on.

are you sure this was in New York?  

getting back on topic,  where is the footage of the veteran cutting off the driver?

that's what I wanna see,  euc action please. heh

[Michael Tucker]

That new Veteran wheel is cuttin' off everywhere!!!! 

[Ben Kim]

I ride with Tarzan semi-frequently, he doesn't take any bulls***.  It's almost better not to talk to him as a passerby because he's going to talk back! LOL

[AtlasP]

Why is it that like 1 in 3 NYC riders is batsh1t crazy? And it doesn't really matter if the EUC rider was 'right', civilized people don't behave like that. We're 20 years into the 2000s, it's not the 1950s.

Edited June 23, 2020 by AtlasP

[Rywokast]

7 minutes ago, AtlasP said:

Why is it that like 1 in 3 NYC riders is batsh1t crazy? And it doesn't really matter if the EUC rider was 'right', civilized people don't behave like that. We're 20 years into the 2000s, it's not the 1950s.

hahaha, usually when somebody cuts me off or theyre in the wrong i just smile at them and go about my business.. i cant imagine it was intentional

[Ben Kim]

5 minutes ago, AtlasP said:

Why is it that like 1 in 3 NYC riders is batsh1t crazy? And it doesn't really matter if the EUC rider was 'right', civilized people don't behave like that. We're 20 years into the 2000s, it's not the 1950s.

I've been on the receiving end of cars and drivers trying to inflict harm on me.  Had a cabbie stick his middle finger up on me after slamming his brakes hard to try and make me crash into him, had another guy try and spit on me while chilling with his "boyz", when this happens on a daily basis in NYC, how would you react?  What would you do if one of these drivers (or in some cases, bikers) successfully harms you and potentially costs your money and your livelihood?  When you have an overcrowded city of all backgrounds and classes, you're going to encounter the worst of the worst here, regardless of your hobbies, and it's up to us to protect ourselves because the NYPD sure isn't anymore. 

[Ben Hatfield]

49 minutes ago, onizukagto said:

that's a surprisingly gentlemen fight.  no punches,  just a quick wrestle on the tarmac, finished with a choke hold and tap out. sideline ref politely hands back the drivers phone and everyone moves on.

are you sure this was in New York?  

getting back on topic,  where is the footage of the veteran cutting off the driver?

that's what I wanna see,  euc action please. heh

I agree, but the driver is going to be feeling those ribs for the next month - maybe the next two.  As someone who has had both bruised ribs and bruised rib cartilage?  I don't envy his next few days

[who_the]

1 hour ago, Rywokast said:

i cant imagine it was intentional

Oh right... of course. And then, the driver got out of his car, walked over and attacked the rider for no reason.

Please. Angry drivers are a problem. I don't know how things are in Canada or Europe, but it's for real here in the US. I see it every day. 

I abhor violence though I agree with @Ben Hatfield, that driver is going to remember that kick the rest of his life.

[Michael Tucker]

1 hour ago, AtlasP said:

Why is it that like 1 in 3 NYC riders is batsh1t crazy? And it doesn't really matter if the EUC rider was 'right', civilized people don't behave like that. We're 20 years into the 2000s, it's not the 1950s.

With one wheel, we balance on cheap Chinese toys with enough lithium to level an apartment building at 40mph next to cars, trucks and buses that can crush us in the blink of an eye....yeah, EUC riders all batsh1t crazy.

I personally try to avoid any type of confrontation at all. I am so identifiable as I am one of just a few riders in a 25 mile radius of my house. Today there was a large vehicle accident in-front of my condo and police were directing traffic. My city is so small only 3 police vehicle remain on-duty at any one time and all 3 were at this accident and they all saw me wheel right up to my building. Pretty simple...if there's a problem with a "guy on one wheel" they know were to find me. I feel like an ambassador and obey all traffic laws as to not draw any negative attention or questions. I find it very easy to be anti-social with a full face helmet in residential and urban environments and at night in the mountains all my confrontations are with animals!

[mike_bike_kite]

Without seeing any video of what caused the argument, I think I'll keep an open mind. We get so many videos from NYC of riders just ignoring the rules, riding through pedestrians on crossings, running red lights etc etc. Now everybody is speed testing the Veteran on public streets without insurance and quite possibly even a driving license. Yeah, what could possibly go wrong ...

[meepmeepmayer]

4 hours ago, Ben Hatfield said:

I agree, but the driver is going to be feeling those ribs for the next month - maybe the next two.  As someone who has had both bruised ribs and bruised rib cartilage?  I don't envy his next few days

Guess he shouldn't have attacked a guy (in protective gear no less) then. Don't dish out if you can't take it.

The rider's reaction was surprisingly harmless given the circumstances. Not sure why people here are both-sideing the issue.

[Planemo]

1 hour ago, mike_bike_kite said:

Without seeing any video of what caused the argument, I think I'll keep an open mind. We get so many videos from NYC of riders just ignoring the rules, riding through pedestrians on crossings, running red lights etc etc. Now everybody is speed testing the Veteran on public streets without insurance and quite possibly even a driving license. Yeah, what could possibly go wrong ...

I don't know if my math is way out, but a 26kg object travelling at 50mph colliding with something over a distance of 1.5m within 0.5 secs shows a peak force of 8660KN. Converted that's 883Kg. Even an average of half that is 441kg. I'm not throwing stones from a glass house as I'm no saint doing 40mph with my 25kg wheel but just thought I'd mention it as that impact force seemed pretty high to me (uselessness at maths excepted).

[meepmeepmayer]

Let's not talk about 25kg, knee-high wheels when other people on average are driving around in 2 ton SUVs and trucks as tall as a man, please!

EUCs are laughably small and light compared to everything else, given their capabilities. We need to keep that in mind instead of giving (fake) ammunition to PEV haters.

The only response to "but these might be dangerous..." complainers is: "Please mind every other vehicle first and get out of my face!". Don't engage in their false logic (e.g. missing the comparable math for a car in the post above).