eve Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 On 6/30/2020 at 4:17 PM, ir_fuel said: Just wondering, is it common that some company sends you an (expensive) wheel you can test and one of the things you do with it (as explicitly stated in this video) is try and smash it to pieces to see how it holds up? Not some company. eWheels. They give one wheel to go around the US so everyone will eventually try it. The fact that So many New Yorkers got to try it is because Hsiang held an event which is nice of him too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying W Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 @Marty Backe at first I thought you took the dirt road up to the top of the lifts and connected to trail to the summit! I bet if you drove up to the parking lot the Sherman would make it to the peak. Hiking only trails though so maybe not the best idea but what an adventure! Great content as always 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrelwood Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 4 hours ago, Shield said: Wow, lifting 35kg from the ground rarely looks that effortless! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Marty Backe Posted July 11, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 11, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Flying W said: @Marty Backe at first I thought you took the dirt road up to the top of the lifts and connected to trail to the summit! I bet if you drove up to the parking lot the Sherman would make it to the peak. Hiking only trails though so maybe not the best idea but what an adventure! Great content as always I just got back from my first serious off-road ride with the Sherman, with some super-steep bumpy-as-hell trails. I didn't think I would say this, but I think I can sell my MSP Edited July 11, 2020 by Marty Backe 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick McCutcheon Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 8 minutes ago, Marty Backe said: I just got back from my first serious off-road ride with the Sherman, with some super-steep bumpy-as-hell trails. I didn't think I would say this, but I think I can sell my MSP Wow! Every post of yours I read hypes me up more and more for my preorder to arrive. Can't wait for the overheat hill video! What are your thoughts on those powerpads by the way? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Marty Backe Posted July 11, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 11, 2020 3 hours ago, Nick McCutcheon said: Wow! Every post of yours I read hypes me up more and more for my preorder to arrive. Can't wait for the overheat hill video! What are your thoughts on those powerpads by the way? They're nice, but could be thicker in the back and front. EWheels it having them updated and I'm supposed to get another pair soon to try out. Made by KingSong so they feel like a typical KingSong pad. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DjPanJan Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 I hope Veteran Fix this potentialy dangerous desing error/fail/weakspot. In next/later/future release/batch/versions i hope in redesign/optimalisation this feature/problem. ------------------warning offtopic under this line----------------------------------------------------------- I use / for everyone to choose what they want to hear. It seems to me that we live in a hypercorrect cancel culture time where it is not allowed to criticize what someone has bought because it limits his personality and rights as people from sugar. And to invite a person on a date or to say that I find it attractive is "almost rape or harassment". #eucmatters ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [Imgur](https://i.imgur.com/FYQ202Q.jpg) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chriull Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 45 minutes ago, DjPanJan said: And to invite a person on a date or to say that I find it attractive is "almost rape or harassment". #eucmatters A disconcerting/strange statement/quote/or whatever this should be... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ben Kim Posted July 11, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 11, 2020 4 hours ago, DjPanJan said: I hope Veteran Fix this potentialy dangerous desing error/fail/weakspot. In next/later/future release/batch/versions i hope in redesign/optimalisation this feature/problem. ------------------warning offtopic under this line----------------------------------------------------------- I use / for everyone to choose what they want to hear. It seems to me that we live in a hypercorrect cancel culture time where it is not allowed to criticize what someone has bought because it limits his personality and rights as people from sugar. And to invite a person on a date or to say that I find it attractive is "almost rape or harassment". #eucmatters ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [Imgur](https://i.imgur.com/FYQ202Q.jpg) looks like the guy fixed his own problem by hitting it over and over 🤣 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fryman Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Kim Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 RIP MSX and Gotway. There’s a new speed king in town! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xorbe Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 That requires more than typical motorcycle gear ... you're gonna need an inflatable suit or something! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRobot Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 (edited) I keep seeing a July 14th date come up with people talking about the first batch of Shermans but I don't see that date anywhere in the email update... What are people expecting then? To know if they're part of the first batch? From what the email makes it sound like is first batch wheels won't be in the customer's hands until early August correct? Edited July 13, 2020 by MrRobot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post travsformation Posted July 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 13, 2020 (edited) On 7/11/2020 at 9:33 PM, fryman said: Too bad they haven't addressed the roll bar / shell clearance issue mentioned by @DjPanJan (which I can understand, since it would basically involve redesigning the wheel), which is a BIG design oversight IMO...the distance between the tire and the frame is minimal at the corners. An angled roll bar (edit: and shell) as opposed to a "square" one would have prevented that (at the expense of a little battery capacity maybe?): The way it is now, I wonder whether it poses a problem exclusively for off-roading. I can envision a few streets scenarios where this could potentially also be problematic: What if you ride up a ramp at an angle? Or take a right at an intersection (e.g.), from a flat road to a steep hill? (you're accelerating, leaning into an incline, etc.). If this scraped at speed, it could lead to a seriously nasty fall. Do note that this is just speculation, the pedal would probably scrape first (or maybe not), it's hard to imagine accurately without physically having the wheel to see the real-world dimensions, it's just something that caught my attention when I first saw the wheel because I'd never seen an EUC where the frame was so close to the edge of the tire. Just compare it to the Monster V3, where just about the entire tire extends out further than the frame: And this is with a knobby tire and no rider on the wheel...swap that for a street tire and add a 90 kg rider and that tire-to-frame clearance becomes even smaller. Not trying to be alarmist here, but this is a safety discussion I think it's worth having. I'm going to write to the dude from the French video to ask him, since I don't like speculating with no real-world data to back my claims I love speculating but prefer having real-world, first-hand info to back my claims 😅 Edited July 13, 2020 by travsformation 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_bike_kite Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 On 7/11/2020 at 8:33 PM, fryman said: The video was well done and informative but: Most reliable wheel???? it's barely started shipping to customers! Changing the colour of the flashing lights - just warning folk that having any flashing lights (apart from indicators) is illegal in the UK unless you're an emergency vehicle. No news on a mudguard? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tazarinho Posted July 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 13, 2020 51 minutes ago, travsformation said: Too bad they haven't addressed the roll bar / shell clearance issue mentioned by @DjPanJan (which I can understand, since it would basically involve redesigning the wheel), which is a BIG design oversight IMO...the distance between the tire and the frame is minimal at the corners. An angled roll bar as opposed to a "square" one would have prevented that (at the expense of a little battery capacity maybe?): I think the design was done with two things in mind. Being able to store all the batteries without having a bulky wheel. Which leads to the square design. Being able to get the side panels off with minimal fuss. As it is you don't need to take off the footplates or the roll bar. But the consequence is that the footplates are quite low and the roll bar can't cut corners. I'm still glad it's there. If you hit the metal bar with some force, you'll have a nasty crash and what you see in the above picture. If the bar wasn't there you'd hit the plastic shell, utterly destroy it and potentially take a hit/scrape on the corner of the battery pack, which is not what I'd want... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travsformation Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 24 minutes ago, Tazarinho said: I think the design was done with two things in mind. Being able to store all the batteries without having a bulky wheel. Which leads to the square design. Being able to get the side panels off with minimal fuss. As it is you don't need to take off the footplates or the roll bar. But the consequence is that the footplates are quite low and the roll bar can't cut corners. I'm still glad it's there. If you hit the metal bar with some force, you'll have a nasty crash and what you see in the above picture. If the bar wasn't there you'd hit the plastic shell, utterly destroy it and potentially take a hit/scrape on the corner of the battery pack, which is not what I'd want... I understand your points, but if I had the choice, I'd choose the angled roll bars = a little more work to remove the side panels + sacrificing a little battery capacity, as opposed to faceplanting because it scraped when hitting a corner. I've asked Manu Wheeler (from the French video) if he's had any scraping issues other than off-road, maybe I'm exaggerating a non-existent problem (for street-riders at least), or maybe I'm just looking for defects to justify not buying one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazarinho Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, travsformation said: I understand your points, but if I had the choice, I'd choose the angled roll bars = a little more work to remove the side panels + sacrificing a little battery capacity, as opposed to faceplanting because it scraped when hitting a corner. I've asked Manu Wheeler (from the French video) if he's had any scraping issues other than off-road, maybe I'm exaggerating a non-existent problem (for street-riders at least), or maybe I'm just looking for defects to justify not buying one I'm sure if we wait till the first and second batch owners really start to ride this thing, there will be a load of little issues popping up here and there. At least I hope so, or I might run out of reasons not to buy one as well... Aside from cash... and the law, of course. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meepmeepmayer Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, Tazarinho said: I'm sure if we wait till the first and second batch owners really start to ride this thing, there will be a load of little issues popping up here and there. I think the Sherman would benefit greatly from a "V2" small update. Maybe change the pedal hangers so the shell is a bit higher and the lower corners aren't so much in danger of scraping. Maybe modify the metal tube idea to also offer a grab handle on top. And whatever other small things come up. Just some small changes could make this wheel basically perfect. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_bike_kite Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 1 hour ago, meepmeepmayer said: Just some small changes could make this wheel basically perfect. That and losing about 10kg 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post onizukagto Posted July 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 13, 2020 (edited) Wicked 120km / 74 miles with 20% / 36 volts to spare. Edited July 13, 2020 by onizukagto 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Backe Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 8 hours ago, Tazarinho said: I think the design was done with two things in mind. Being able to store all the batteries without having a bulky wheel. Which leads to the square design. Being able to get the side panels off with minimal fuss. As it is you don't need to take off the footplates or the roll bar. But the consequence is that the footplates are quite low and the roll bar can't cut corners. I'm still glad it's there. If you hit the metal bar with some force, you'll have a nasty crash and what you see in the above picture. If the bar wasn't there you'd hit the plastic shell, utterly destroy it and potentially take a hit/scrape on the corner of the battery pack, which is not what I'd want... It's a myth that you don't need to take off the footplates to access the inside - told from my first hand experience 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Marty Backe Posted July 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 13, 2020 I just climbed a short curb at a "slight" angle and whacked one of the roll bars, denting it badly. So I suspect their next revision of this wheel will address the front roll bar. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fryman Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 6 minutes ago, Marty Backe said: I just climbed a short curb at a "slight" angle and whacked one of the roll bars, denting it badly. So I suspect their next revision of this wheel will address the front roll bar. Way to go Ace! Crazy California drivers!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meepmeepmayer Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 27 minutes ago, Marty Backe said: I just climbed a short curb at a "slight" angle and whacked one of the roll bars, denting it badly. Dented where? The lower front corner? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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