wwwooooqq Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 2 hours ago, buell47 said: I can't quite follow the thread anymore, too much OT. But am I the only one who asks the question if this air pressure table has been revised, after they found out that the shock can be inflated better if the damper is completely compressed and then blocked? In my opinion, 2 tables should exist. One for inflation with compressed shock and one in normal condition. Or do you think that 150psi when the damper is compressed will still be 150psi when the block is removed afterwards? I have never heard of filling an air shock with the damper fully compressed. It is true that the air pressure will change as you said, but the air pressure is only a reference value. Although the air pressure will change, this position after compression is fixed as the initial air pressure and will not be different every time, so just follow the standard operation, Riding does not have an impact, and even if you want to refer someones setting, you won’t get different air pressure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottie888 Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 Chooch & Chang on the S18 vs V11. It's about what I expected😁 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
traktori Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 Has anybody weighed the wheel? What is the weight of the production unit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cranium Posted July 30, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 30, 2020 31 minutes ago, traktori said: Has anybody weighed the wheel? What is the weight of the production unit? The weight is 56 lbs on the nose. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrelwood Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 13 minutes ago, Cranium said: The weight is 56 lbs on the nose. Translates to 25.4 kg. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rywokast Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 13 minutes ago, Cranium said: The weight is 56 lbs on the nose. geeeez, skeleton looking wheel weighs 8 more lbs than the 18L wtf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Bialy Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 2 hours ago, Scottie888 said: Chooch & Chang on the S18 vs V11. It's about what I expected😁 Everyone keeps talking about how you can't jump the V11 because it doesn't have the right pads. It seems there is an easy solution to this. Put on pads!! There are mounting points, and plenty of room on the saddle for pads it seems. Am I missing something? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post -iB- Posted July 30, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 30, 2020 23 minutes ago, Cranium said: The weight is 56 lbs on the nose. Wow... that's almost 10 lbs more than the spec sheet says... and only a few lbs lighter than the V11. I was hoping (and under the impression) the wheel would be under 50 lbs. Thanks for the info! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtlasP Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, -iB- said: Wow... that's almost 10 lbs more than the spec sheet says... and only a few lbs lighter than the V11. I was hoping (and under the impression) the wheel would be under 50 lbs. Thanks for the info! This was reported/known on the forums for some time, but there were some in denial meanwhile most users don't scour the forums with a fine-tooth comb. I think there will be a lot of very disappointed/angry buyers when they find out their new wheels is nearly [6 pounds](!) heavier than advertised. Of all the trivial little sh1t people get up in arms about around here, this seems like something actually worthy of some backlash. Edited July 31, 2020 by AtlasP 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinkererboi Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 10 minutes ago, Martin Bialy said: Everyone keeps talking about how you can't jump the V11 because it doesn't have the right pads. It seems there is an easy solution to this. Put on pads!! There are mounting points, and plenty of room on the saddle for pads it seems. Am I missing something? The suspension system on the V11 make this impossible for now as the pedals move. The only style of pads that will work for jumping a wheel this heavy are the types that enclose your feet and allow you to lock them to the pedals. Unless somebody figures out how to put pads on that tiny pillar in the middle of the wheel there seems to be no chance of ever fitting anything suitable for jumping for now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranium Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 1 minute ago, AtlasP said: This was reported/known on the forums for a long time, but there were some in denial meanwhile most users don't scour the forums with a fine-tooth comb. I think there will be a lot of very angry/disappointed buyers when they find out their new wheels is nearly 10 pounds(!) heavier than advertised. Of all the little sh1t people get up in arms about around here that seems trivial, this seems like something actually worthy of some backlash. Too soon to judge at this point IMHO. For instance, I wouldn't be upset at all if they stuffed 10 more pounds of battery in there. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rywokast Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 (edited) 14 minutes ago, AtlasP said: This was reported/known on the forums for some time, but there were some in denial meanwhile most users don't scour the forums with a fine-tooth comb. I think there will be a lot of very angry/disappointed buyers when they find out their new wheels is nearly 10 pounds(!) heavier than advertised. Of all the little sh1t people get up in arms about around here that seems trivial, this seems like something actually worthy of some backlash. well for sure the vast majority of people who purchased the wheel dont visit these forums and even if they do, didnt read through this insanely long thread lmao.... thats a massive difference, thats not some acceptable margin of error or minor changes from pre production that totally changes the weight argument, its now negligible the weight difference between the v11 and s18 but at least the v11 has a good battery/reason to be that heavy.. its build quality is clearly superior and there is a lot more protection for the wheel Edited July 30, 2020 by Rywokast 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fryman Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 1 minute ago, Cranium said: Too soon to judge at this point IMHO. For instance, I wouldn't be upset at all if they stuffed 10 more pounds of battery in there. Yes, more battery please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rywokast Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, fryman said: Yes, more battery please im sure someone was arguing on here before that its better to have the smaller battery to keep the weight down, most people dont need that much battery its all about the suspension blah blah, and now it weighs 10 lbs more with the same amount of battery lmao... weighs 3 lbs more than the 18XL while still looking naked (not that i dont absolutely love the look) but holy that suspension system is heavy lol Edited July 30, 2020 by Rywokast 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottie888 Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 Actually the printed specs (albeit preproduction) listed the S18 as weighing 49.5lbs so its ~6lbs overweight, not the 10lbs as theorized. Regardless that's still over spec in a direction that isn't good & if there's blowback, I wouldn't mind a discount for sure. It's becoming clearer that the V11 is the "allrounder" where the S18 is the specialist. Honestly I'm not going to comment on the S18's prowess until I get mine on the hills/trails. Luckily, I've always expected it to be a monowheel MTB alternative so no disappointment here unless it doesn't perform as such. Another + for having a few as opposed to one to rule them all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockyTop Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 (edited) +1 56 pounds. On the plus side, It does feel lighter tha the XL when riding it. Edited July 30, 2020 by RockyTop 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Bialy Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 11 minutes ago, Tinkererboi said: The suspension system on the V11 make this impossible for now as the pedals move. The only style of pads that will work for jumping a wheel this heavy are the types that enclose your feet and allow you to lock them to the pedals. Unless somebody figures out how to put pads on that tiny pillar in the middle of the wheel there seems to be no chance of ever fitting anything suitable for jumping for now. Yeah, making some 3d printed piece that mounts to those 2 bolts, and then some pads on that that are separated from the main body, would work fine. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rywokast Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, RockyTop said: +1 56 pounds. On the plus side, It does feel lighter tha the XL when riding it. presumably with the larger tire so more contact with the ground would make the weight less apparent to someone riding it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h3X Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 27 minutes ago, Tinkererboi said: The suspension system on the V11 make this impossible for now as the pedals move. The only style of pads that will work for jumping a wheel this heavy are the types that enclose your feet and allow you to lock them to the pedals. Unless somebody figures out how to put pads on that tiny pillar in the middle of the wheel there seems to be no chance of ever fitting anything suitable for jumping for now. I guess you're right, but I hope you're wrong! Maybe they should release a wider "suspension cover pillar". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Wilson Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 33 minutes ago, Tinkererboi said: The suspension system on the V11 make this impossible for now as the pedals move. The only style of pads that will work for jumping a wheel this heavy are the types that enclose your feet and allow you to lock them to the pedals. Unless somebody figures out how to put pads on that tiny pillar in the middle of the wheel there seems to be no chance of ever fitting anything suitable for jumping for now. The karambit style pads might fit. They seem relatively small. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musk Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 26 minutes ago, Tinkererboi said: The suspension system on the V11 make this impossible for now as the pedals move. The only style of pads that will work for jumping a wheel this heavy are the types that enclose your feet and allow you to lock them to the pedals. Unless somebody figures out how to put pads on that tiny pillar in the middle of the wheel there seems to be no chance of ever fitting anything suitable for jumping for now. Those two angle-height screws would be good mounting points for pads. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patton250 Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 OK it’s a good thing I have an iPhone because I was able to increase the speed to 24 mph with that app thanks to the help from some people here. However the highest that app goes to is 24 mph so now I’m stuck. It will not open on the KingSong app and there’s no other way to increase the speed that I’m aware of. This is incredibly stupid and frustrating. Any help? Thanks guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steef Klonoa Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 @Patton250 Have you tried uninstalling and reinstalling the kingsong app? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patton250 Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 19 minutes ago, Steef Klonoa said: @Patton250 Have you tried uninstalling and reinstalling the kingsong app? No. I will then. The king song that doesn’t even work on my android phone. As soon as you open it it just crashes. I will uninstall it and reinstall it on my iPhone and get back to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steef Klonoa Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 @Patton250 go into settings and uninstall it, then go into the app store and install it again. Don't just delete it. Just a hunch. It worked with the segway app when it was screwing with me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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