Inmotion V12 announcement May 2020-MORE SPECS RELEASED

[Electric Dreams]

Inmotion v12 will be officially announced in May 2020.

 

source: directly from inmotion. 

Edited March 9, 2020 by Jack Frost

[meepmeepmayer]

As they have a V12 and V15 coming, and one is supposedly a 16 incher and the other an 18 incher... looks like this is going to be their new 16 incher (smaller number, right?)! Curious what they have come up with! I have no idea what to expect.

Edited March 5, 2020 by meepmeepmayer
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[mike_bike_kite]

I'll just say I find inmotion's naming system confusing. You'd think if they were going to introduce some new wheels then it might be worth looking at the naming system they have. Currently the V5 is 14", the V10 is 16", the V12 is 16" and the V15 is 18". Why not just start with a letter to identify the manufacturer, a number to give the wheel diameter and then a few letters to say whether it's a wide tyre (W), suspension (S), long distance (L) etc. The "I" for inmotion is a bit confusing because it looks like a digit so I'd go for "M" instead or even just stick with the "V". Names like M16W or M18SL would then be understandable. I'm a bit stuck on how to differentiate the V8 and V10 though - M16L for 16" lightweight and then M16L for 16" long distance???

[Meserias]

Jack, could you please unveil for us where you heard this ?
InMotion on FaceBook doesn't provide any info about this event.

[Electric Dreams]

2 hours ago, Meserias said:

Jack, could you please unveil for us where you heard this ?
InMotion on FaceBook doesn't provide any info about this event.

I spoke to a direct source from inMotion

[meepmeepmayer]

From another topic:

6 minutes ago, Unventor said:

From what I can pick up on WhatsApp channel over time it got me intrigued. After chatting with Liam (from Inmotion marketing), Iam not so sure that I only have 3 wheels after this summer...yes other brands build new models too. In October the 2nd new wheel launch is set. this is set to be a more traditional and smaller wheel. but no details yet. I think it could be a upgraded V10 like wheel but that is my speculations. 

So the May event will show the big one?

[Unventor]

Well I didn't hear May. Last week they said next month. and some time back they said Aoril for first release and a later release proberly around october. But maybe @Liamfind can give us more announcment/release time details.

[Unventor]

1 hour ago, meepmeepmayer said:

From another topic:

So the May event will show the big one?

Yes, as they need people to know f their product since they are aiming for a target group they normally appel to. Also Since the price tag is around 2000$ They proberly know people do not impulse buy it, it is a price that for most need saving towards.

[Meserias]

InMotion should be careful about asked price because MSP/MSPS could be a better option than their big next release.
If InMotion next wheel it's not having 100Km+ range I will get a Nikola+ 2100Wh...

 

[Electric Dreams]

More specs are out! 

[Meserias]

I was surprised that they actually responded to my question...

 

Edited March 9, 2020 by Meserias

[meepmeepmayer]

It is the big one! Specs are pretty much what we expected from an Inmotion wheel. Though it is nice to have the suspension confirmed. Can't wait to see how they did it! And the design will surely be nice.

I wonder what "over 100km range" means. After all, the V10F is advertised as 62 miles max wheel (= 100km) I guess it means 1600Wh (which still doesn't give 100km under realistic conditions) but I'd be happy to see an even bigger battery.

2 months to go...

[Unventor]

When they delayed the 7th Jan release they said announcement set on April with sales start later May early Juni. They also said that supply will be low in the beginning. 

[Marty Backe]

3 hours ago, meepmeepmayer said:

It is the big one! Specs are pretty much what we expected from an Inmotion wheel. Though it is nice to have the suspension confirmed. Can't wait to see how they did it! And the design will surely be nice.

I wonder what "over 100km range" means. After all, the V10F is advertised as 62 miles max wheel (= 100km) I guess it means 1600Wh (which still doesn't give 100km under realistic conditions) but I'd be happy to see an even bigger battery.

2 months to go...

If the V10F is advertised as 62 miles (100km) than this new wheel will be the same lame battery size. I think you're mixing miles & kilometers in your commentary and that's why you didn't pick up on this.

All the people that I know who have bought the V10F soon graduated to a much bigger wheel for the range and barely ride their V10F anymore.

I won't have any interest in it (suspension or no suspension) if it doesn't have at least 1600wh of capacity.

[meepmeepmayer]

5 minutes ago, Marty Backe said:

I think you're mixing miles & kilometers in your commentary and that's why you didn't pick up on this.

No, I'm afraid not 62 miles = 99.8km.

Anyways, I'm not here to shit on Inmotions earlier marketing. I merely mentioned this as a side show.

I'm sure their new wheel will have more than a 1000Wh battery. 1600Wh is what I expect. Looking forward to see more, especially because I believe an 18 incher requires a completely new design (bigger step than V8 --> V10)

[Marty Backe]

3 hours ago, meepmeepmayer said:

No, I'm afraid not 62 miles = 99.8km.

Anyways, I'm not here to shit on Inmotions earlier marketing. I merely mentioned this as a side show.

I'm sure their new wheel will have more than a 1000Wh battery. 1600Wh is what I expect. Looking forward to see more, especially because I believe an 18 incher requires a completely new design (bigger step than V8 --> V10)

Yeah, but if their V10F marketing says it's a 60-mile (100-km) wheel, and it has a ~1000wh battery, then that's what I'm expecting with this new wheel.

We don't have any evidence that they know how to build a longer range wheel or that they think their customer base desires one.

Call me skeptical.

[AtlasP]

2 hours ago, Marty Backe said:

Yeah, but if their V10F marketing says it's a 60-mile (100-km) wheel, and it has a ~1000wh battery, then that's what I'm expecting with this new wheel.

We don't have any evidence that they know how to build a longer range wheel or that they think their customer base desires one.

Call me skeptical.

We likewise don't have any evidence Gotway understands basic electrical engineering or hardware QA, but you still give every one of their new duds a chance until several revisions later when they finally fix them/make them worth owning, only to turn around and make the same mistakes one or two wheels/revisions later. (#gluegate #mosfetgate #latest-bad-firmware-requiring-board-replacement-gate #slower-mspro-gate, ad nauseum)

How about some encouragement towards the brand which already has better production values than most, when they finally say they're making an effort to make a higher power, higher range wheel for enthusiasts which should be exactly what you/we want. Who knows if they'll get there all the way on their first attempt to push things, but surely it warrants something better than the inexplicable skepticism/shade you keep throwing at them.

The juxtaposition in benefit of the doubt you give to a proven-poor manufacturer just because they make high specs, compared to the skepticism you give to a proven-better manufacturer just because they make more conservative specs, is frankly bizarre, especially from someone that claims they mostly cruise in the mid 20s anyway. Honestly we have at least as much of a, if not a better, chance of InMotion making higher speed/range wheels than we have of Gotway getting better at production/QA any time soon. I could understand either blanket skepticism towards the general state of Chinese EUC manufacturers, or blanket optimism just because EUCs are awesome and it's an exciting time, I just don't understand asymmetry in these attitudes towards the prospect of new wheels from different manufacturers. Me I'm just excited for what's next and to see each manufacturer acknowledge and push towards improving their weaknesses (which it appears IM might finally be doing).

Edited March 10, 2020 by AtlasP

[UniVehje]

2 hours ago, Marty Backe said:

Yeah, but if their V10F marketing says it's a 60-mile (100-km) wheel, and it has a ~1000wh battery, then that's what I'm expecting with this new wheel.

We don't have any evidence that they know how to build a longer range wheel or that they think their customer base desires one.

Call me skeptical.

They’ve already confirmed it’ll be bigger battery than V10F and built for long distance riders. We don’t know the exact numbers but I’m expecting 1600 or 1800 wh. It’s a new chassis so not about fitting this time. 
Liam also said he’s expecting racers to like it . I have a feeling they might be serious about this wheel. 

[UniVehje]

9 minutes ago, AtlasP said:

The juxtaposition in benefit of the doubt you give to a proven-poor manufacturer just because they make high specs compared to the skepticism you give to a proven-great manufacturer just because they make more conservative specs is bizarre, especially from someone that claims they're less concerned about top speed. Honestly we have at least as much of a, if not a better, chance of InMotion making highers speed/range wheels than we have of Gotway getting better at production any time soon. Me I'm just excited for what's next and to see each manufacturer acknowledge and push towards improving their weaknesses.

I’m hoping Inmotion succeeds with this. We need competition to drive these toys further. Past year we’ve seen IPS and Rockwheel drop out and Ninebot is only rumored to still try. It’s really Gotway, Kingsong and Inmotion left and IM has the manufacturing numbers and resources to invest. With this new wheel Gotway will finally have a competitor in the 50 km/h+ speed category. 
 

Investing in a completely new model should not be taken for granted. I’m glad Inmotion sees it worth the risk. 

[Meserias]

guys, don't forget V8 it's most used wheel which has been already proven to be a worldwide success on many aspects.
I'm give them credit until I see their response to big boys ...

Edited March 10, 2020 by Meserias

[Marty Backe]

2 hours ago, AtlasP said:

We likewise don't have any evidence Gotway understands basic electrical engineering or hardware QA, but you still give every one of their new duds a chance until several revisions later when they finally fix them/make them worth owning, only to turn around and make the same mistakes one or two wheels/revisions later. (#gluegate #mosfetgate #latest-bad-firmware-requiring-board-replacement-gate #slower-mspro-gate, ad nauseum)

How about some encouragement towards the brand which already has better production values than most, when they finally say they're making an effort to make a higher power, higher range wheel for enthusiasts which should be exactly what you/we want. Who knows if they'll get there all the way on their first attempt to push things, but surely it warrants something better than the inexplicable skepticism/shade you keep throwing at them.

The juxtaposition in benefit of the doubt you give to a proven-poor manufacturer just because they make high specs, compared to the skepticism you give to a proven-better manufacturer just because they make more conservative specs, is frankly bizarre, especially from someone that claims they mostly cruise in the mid 20s anyway. Honestly we have at least as much of a, if not a better, chance of InMotion making higher speed/range wheels than we have of Gotway getting better at production/QA any time soon. I could understand either blanket skepticism towards the general state of Chinese EUC manufacturers, or blanket optimism just because EUCs are awesome and it's an exciting time, I just don't understand asymmetry in these attitudes towards the prospect of new wheels from different manufacturers. Me I'm just excited for what's next and to see each manufacturer acknowledge and push towards improving their weaknesses (which it appears IM might finally be doing).

Why all the hate?

That was quite the diatribe based on my skepticism that the wheel would have a 1600wh battery. I said zero about anything else with this wheel. I didn't say that I hoped it would fail. I didn't say I wouldn't buy one. I didn't say Inmotion produced crappy wheels (they don't).

I think you're making up a conversation in your head that never took place, from me.

Go back and read what I wrote and then re-read your response here. Where's the proportionality or rationality in what you wrote relative to my benign skepticism ABOUT A 1600WH BATTERY????

 

Edited March 10, 2020 by Marty Backe

[Unventor]

5 hours ago, Marty Backe said:

Yeah, but if their V10F marketing says it's a 60-mile (100-km) wheel, and it has a ~1000wh battery, then that's what I'm expecting with this new wheel.

We don't have any evidence that they know how to build a longer range wheel or that they think their customer base desires one.

Call me skeptical.

I don't see why couldn't do it? Call me skeptical on a skeptical. 

In case you had chosen to follow their information flow then you would see they have shifted in how they communicate. 

And yes looking back at V10 launch it had same inflation to numbers as both KS and GW has. The only difference is that they never came out with a wheel past 1000wh. Same as Ninebot never did. 

I agree that the V10f isn't a mountain class wheel. But as a commuter wheel up to 10miles a way it works pretty well. At least with many countries that have a speedlimit for EUC. 

But then again I view the V10f as a low budget midrange wheel. I am keen to see what they come up with.

Just because they have a new wheel coming I see not need to be skeptical about it. 

[DjPanJan]

I realy hope. Change my V10F (37Km real range) to this "new" whell. I love waterproof of inmotion. This Ks16x water failings in superlight rain scary me. If kingsong not anounce 16x 100V or 16x (waterproof edition). KS18XL is only stability choice and geting older and older. Gotway Nikola + is road/comute machine pedals is too close ground for "offroad" Nikola = speed for me. I no have places where i can ride 50+ km/h here(no road conditons) only Nikola + benefit compared to 16X is for me waterproofing and battery. 

Next questionmark for me is. Fix V12 all fails what v10F have? Weak mosfets , overloads, overheats, apps what need conect to china for only calibration(what if they close server  no more calibration anymore? ) tire size ,RANGE , lift sensor not work 100% for me if i no push it in centre sometime just not work. We know V12 use scorpion handle i no hate it is usable solution. Big Plus what many people not see inmotion have services and official selers in countries where gotway/kongsong have nothing. That is part of inmotion worldwide sucess. Inmotion please be smart and take my money!     

[meepmeepmayer]

3 hours ago, UniVehje said:

They’ve already confirmed it’ll be bigger battery than V10F and built for long distance riders.

There we are, no more wondering needed

I for one am happy Inmotion go for a brand new "big boy" wheel design to compete with the likes of msuper and 18(X)L.

And let's not forget the suspension! I have no idea how they will implement such a feature. Via the pedal construction? Springed pedal hangers? Soft circle layer in the tire rim? Super springy tire?

[KiwiRoller]

7 minutes ago, meepmeepmayer said:

There we are, no more wondering needed

I for one am happy Inmotion go for a brand new "big boy" wheel design to compete with the likes of msuper and 18(X)L.

And let's not forget the suspension! I have no idea how they will implement such a feature. Via the pedal construction? Springed pedal hangers? Soft circle layer in the tire rim? Super springy tire?

That's the most interesting piece to me. Suspension. If they nail it, it could be a really awesome innovation.