Wuhan Coronavirus - are you prepared?

[Toshio Uemura]

13 hours ago, Rehab1 said:

Unfortunately my creativity and up beat spirit  have diminished. Trying to keep my staff smiling is a challenge these days. 

May be this can help a bit:

Enjoy and let’s have a Quarantini together!  
 

 

 

Edited March 20, 2020 by Toshio Uemura

[meepmeepmayer]

We (Bavaria) just got curfew'd! Luckily, going out for the essentials includes individual sport and leisure, aka EUC riding (just no group rides allowed....)

Also allowed is visiting partners, and of course everyone goes to work like usual and commutes 100+ kilometers every day through half the state like usual, because somehow the virus doesn't infect and spread via people who are working (or something) because "muh economy!!!" But hey, at least the finally closed all in-restaurant tables instead of keeping the restaurants open during lunch time (because, again, the virus doesn't infect people who are working, apparently, and they need somewhere to eat, right?).

This  is going to last forever with this retarded pseudo-quarantine. Could be over in 2 weeks with a real quarantine.

[Toshio Uemura]

15 hours ago, meepmeepmayer said:

No general quarantine/curfew yet. Might happen soon though.

How is it for you?

Might look a bit like this I suppose:

 

[atdlzpae]

5 minutes ago, meepmeepmayer said:

and of course everyone goes to work like usual and commutes 100+ kilometers every day through half the state like usual, because somehow the virus doesn't infect and spread via people who are working (or something) because "muh economy!!!"

Well, if people aren't allowed to work there won't be any food on the shelves, so people will die, right?

[Toshio Uemura]

1 minute ago, atdlzpae said:

Well, if people aren't allowed to work there won't be any food on the shelves, so people will die, right?

Yes, they all need to work, so everyone can die with food on their tables! 🤪

[meepmeepmayer]

3 minutes ago, atdlzpae said:

Well, if people aren't allowed to work there won't be any food on the shelves, so people will die, right?

There's essential work (food, farms, essential stores, doctors, infrastructure, etc.) and there are "would be absolutely no problem if we closed for a month" businesses. It's not a choice between 100% or 0%. Close all non-essential businesses.

But nobody meet outside in groups of more than two!!! Being stuffed into an office and dense cantina with a common salad buffet, for 9 hours every single day, and then commuting between cities... that is is totally fine, though, no danger of spreading the virus there!!

I'm just saying either you have systematic measures or you might as well skip it altogether. The virus doesn't care if something is deemed "but but but we don't want to close that!".

[Toshio Uemura]

2 minutes ago, meepmeepmayer said:

and then commuting between cities..

 

[travsformation]

19 minutes ago, meepmeepmayer said:

We (Bavaria) just got curfew'd! Luckily, going out for the essentials includes individual sport and leisure, aka EUC riding (just no group rides allowed....)

Also allowed is visiting partners, and of course everyone goes to work like usual and commutes 100+ kilometers every day through half the state like usual, because somehow the virus doesn't infect and spread via people who are working (or something) because "muh economy!!!" But hey, at least the finally closed all in-restaurant tables instead of keeping the restaurants open during lunch time (because, again, the virus doesn't infect people who are working, apparently, and they need somewhere to eat, right?).

This  is going to last forever with this retarded pseudo-quarantine. Could be over in 2 weeks with a real quarantine.

Spain reacting faster than Germany? This really is the end of the world then!

[meepmeepmayer]

Just now, travsformation said:

Spain reacting faster than Germany? This really is the end of the world then!

Are you allowed to go out for a lone ride in Spain?

[travsformation]

1 minute ago, meepmeepmayer said:

Are you allowed to go out for a lone ride in Spain?

Short answer: No.

Long answer: Here they're taking it REALLY seriously. Everything closed but essentials (supermarkets, pharmacies, etc). Leaving the house is prohibited unless it's to go to one of the aforementioned (or walking the dog). The police are patrolling the streets and issuing warnings (until recently), and starting to fine repeated offenders.

I've been stopped 3 times since the "state of alarm" was declared last Saturday. Once because my girlfriend and I and went for a ride (1st day, keeping our distance, but didn't fool them, apparently), once because we took the dog for a walk together (we live 400 m from the beach and can walk the dog without coming into contact with any other people...and we're both confined in the same house all day anyway so...), and yesterday on my way back from the pharmacy with the 16X. What shocked me is that they asked me for the receipt for what I'd bought. Luckily, they'd put it in the bag with the medication, 'cause I don't tend to keep them. I was told that if I'd been unable to produce a receipt and justify why I wad outdoors, I would have been fined.

It's an eerie, martial law-like feeling on one hand, but necessary, even if unpleasant (IMO) on the other. People have a tendency to disregard authority unless they risk hefty fines, and Spaniards are notorious for that...I'd like to think common sense should prevail and the police would look the other way when it isn't a risk, but while I know that I'm not being irresponsible and not risking spreading the virus (my philosophy is to act as is I had it so as to not spread it to anyone else), they don't know me, and I'm not the only one with an "But I only..." story. The fines didn't start until one several days into the lockdown, so I imagine they've started doing so for a reason...

[travsformation]

The weekend before the lockdown:

 

Same boulevard post-lockdown:

[RagingGrandpa]

11 hours ago, Marty Backe said:

The entire state of California is now in lock-down. 40-million people. Can only go outside for food, etc. And it's open ended - until "they" say it's over.

I suspect the economic damage is going to be much worse than the virus.

 

https://www.newsweek.com/california-worlds-biggest-economy-lockdown-governor-orders-residents-stay-home-1493352

"

The order, which Newsom calls a "safer-at-home" order, is mandatory and will make the vast majority of the the state's almost 40 million residents stay self-isolated in their homes. Residents will be able to leave their homes for exercise and for essential needs.

All non-essential businesses will also close; grocery stores, pharmacies and banks, among others, will stay open. Some restaurants will also stay open, however, they will be delivery or take-out only. Before Newsom's order, a number of counties—including Los Angeles County—issued similar directives.

Newsom also said that the National Guard would help with the distribution of food, acting in a "purely humanitarian" manner. California will also partner with the social media platform NextDoor so citizens can check in with neighbors during the lockdown.

"This is a moment we need to make tough decisions," Newsom said. "We need to recognize reality."

The order comes into effect Thursday, until further notice. Violations of the order are punishable as a misdemeanor. The maximum punishment would be a fine of $1,000 or no more than six months in prison, but Newsom says he does not plan to have police enforce the order."
 

 

Keep "exercising" Marty!

[meepmeepmayer]

@travsformation @Marty Backe respectively: are non-essential workplaces closed?

2 hours ago, travsformation said:

No.

[travsformation]

1 hour ago, meepmeepmayer said:

@travsformation @Marty Backe respectively: are non-essential workplaces closed?

Define non-essential

Restaurants are closed (only takeaway and delivery). Malls are closed (unless they sell food). Clothing stores and shoe shops are closed. Tobacco shops are legally allowed to stay open. So are hairdressers.

 

[meepmeepmayer]

7 minutes ago, travsformation said:

Define non-essential

I don't mean customer-facing businesses. Just factories, offices, etc.

[travsformation]

When the lockdown started here in Spain there was an initiative, started on social medial, to go go "outside" (stand on front porch, doorway, balconies) at 8 PM to clap in gratitude for healthcare professionals' work. This has turned into a daily event, as it's a way to acknowledge the presence of others---a collective activity despite isolation.

A few days ago the Telegraph published an article uncovering that the current king (I refuse to capitalize that word, I'm embarrassed to be living in a monarchy in the year 2020...) is the heir to a €65 million offshore fund of his father's (former king), stemming from Saudi "donations". The current king publicly renounced the inheritance (but of course, that's not legally binding). The day the story broke, another online initiative started: at 9 PM, we were to "go outside", but this time with pots and pans, and bang on them in protest of the monarchy's (royal) corruption, demanding that the inherited money be allocated to public healthcare. Confined in our houses, hearing and reading about layoffs, the financial crisis to come, people were mad and participated effusively. It was quite the site to behold.

So for a couple of days, we had solemn clapping at 8 and enthusiastic pot-banging at 9. Now they've started to fuse into a single "event" that's a mix of both. Unsure of whether to clap or bang on pots, it's become and odd medley with an anarchic-festive component including whistling, blasting tunes and horn-honking.

I happened to be on my wheel yesterday, on my way back from the pharmacy, at 8 PM. It wasn't planned, I had my GoPro on my helmet only to record the empty streets. It was very different to experience it from street level, in motion, and see it span across the whole city, as opposed to from my balcony, seeing only the neighbors across the street.

Had to share:
 

Hmmm....It's 7:20 PM. I think I better get ready, I forgot I need to go to the pharmacy to buy some...mmmm......vitamin C?

 

[Toshio Uemura]

4 hours ago, travsformation said:

What shocked me is that they asked me for the receipt for what I'd bought

And they didn’t say anything about your EUC?! Or were you on foot?

[Toshio Uemura]

14 hours ago, Marty Backe said:

I suspect the economic damage is going to be much worse than the virus

With the first SARS outbreak it was. So I believe you are right and I am afraid it will be far worse than back then. 😢 

[Toshio Uemura]

52 minutes ago, travsformation said:

Define non-essential

Restaurants are closed (only takeaway and delivery). Malls are closed (unless they sell food). Clothing stores and shoe shops are closed. Tobacco shops are legally allowed to stay open. So are hairdressers.

 

None essential? You mean like GUN SHOPS! 

[Toshio Uemura]

30 minutes ago, travsformation said:

. It was very different to experience it from street level, in motion, and see it span across the whole city, as opposed to from my balcony, seeing only the neighbors across the street.

Had to share:

Thanks for sharing! This is as encouraging as it is frightening. I will share your clip with as many of my friends as I can reach, if you don’t mind. 
in Japan it still looks like this in all major cities:

 

[LanghamP]

100% of Republican elected officials turned Socialist over this week. That's Socialist with a capital "S", and I was puzzled as to why.

This is the reason why...

Last Monday, Colorado had 400 people apply for unemployment insurance. This Tuesday: 6,800. California has seen its daily filings jump from 2,000 to 80,000. Oregon went from 800 to 18,000. In Connecticut, nearly 2 percent of the state’s workers declared that they were newly jobless on a single day. Many other states are reporting the same kinds of figures.

 

[travsformation]

1 hour ago, Toshio Uemura said:

And they didn’t say anything about your EUC?! Or were you on foot?

I was on my wheel. We're in a bit of a grey area here at the moment...the only good thing about the coronavirus being that my EUC is the last of their concerns (if only I could ride it without needing some form of written proof that it's justified)

1 hour ago, Toshio Uemura said:

None essential? You mean like GUN SHOPS! 

Be careful with opening that "box".... it's a very polarizing subject whenever it comes up. I see no point in politicizing this thread, I personally feel now is a time for togetherness, not for friction and division

1 hour ago, Toshio Uemura said:

Thanks for sharing! This is as encouraging as it is frightening. I will share your clip with as many of my friends as I can reach, if you don’t mind. 
in Japan it still looks like this in all major cities:

Yikes...those agglomerations of people...

Yeah, it's eerie to see the streets so empty, but comforting to see people and authorities alike taking the issue seriously (not to mention people's willingness to make the best out of a good situation). Of course, feel free to share! It would be great if the initiative were to spread!

Edited March 20, 2020 by travsformation

[Slashebeest]

16 hours ago, Marty Backe said:

The entire state of California is now in lock-down. 40-million people. Can only go outside for food, etc. And it's open ended - until "they" say it's over.

I suspect the economic damage is going to be much worse than the virus.

until you see what's happening in italy, last 24hours: +600 dead.

In italy, they no longer resuscitate infected people older than 65.

Doctors have to choose who dies and who lives.

Edited March 20, 2020 by Slashebeest

[Unventor]

16 hours ago, Marty Backe said:

The entire state of California is now in lock-down. 40-million people. Can only go outside for food, etc. And it's open ended - until "they" say it's over.

I suspect the economic damage is going to be much worse than the virus.

Maybe....but profit don't help those that die.

Those who live can rebuild. Yes I know these are grim words. 

But the capital of China do not look like this for fun.

Yet in one of most modern hospitals in the world in Italy many people die but a city in Italy surrounded but hard infected communities have managr to stay clear of infection for 3 weeks by doi g the right measures. 

No being in a high risk group do not mean you win the lottery against the virus. And even if you do beat it some people have lost as much as 30% lung capacity. 

The economic impact of that can be devastating. This is not just the other side of the world problem. It is more or less in every once backyard now. 

[Unventor]

15 minutes ago, Slashebeest said:

until you see what's happening in italy, last 24hours: +600 dead.

In italy, they no longer resuscitate infected people older than 65.

Doctors have to choose who dies and who lives.

I do not like the news you posted, but the fact that you post is about none of us want to be in that situation.

I have been working from home the past week. We ate not on hard forced lockdown yet. Yet this is what we do to hopeful break the new infection curve and deathtolls.