MSuper Pro?

[Planemo]

On 1/15/2020 at 2:19 AM, meepmeepmayer said:

Picture of the MSPro board from the post above:

Pictures of a 100V Nikola board, courtes

Also the capacitors are bigger (literally, and 1000 mF instead of 560).

I have confirmed that the caps in my 84v MSX are 100v 1000mF. So I have no idea what the above board is from. Hopefully not a 100v model!

[Planemo]

6 hours ago, Shad0z said:

I only ever felt msx tiltback past 40-45kph, i actually really like this feature, it's extremely unappreciated.

So several people are saying the MSX has tiltback even when turned off?

I have never seen (whilst checking alarms via lift speeds) or felt any tiltback on mine, but then I havent actually measured it either. Maybe I will. Intrigued.

[scap]

3 hours ago, Planemo said:

I have confirmed that the caps in my 84v MSX are 100v 1000mF. So I have no idea what the above board is from. Hopefully not a 100v model!

I asked gotway about this and they responded very quickly which was cool.

Me: Hope your in good health and happy new year!!! I see on the picture of the control board large capacitors that are only rated for 100v with the wheel being 100v and the battery producing actually more than 100v that seems to be a problem. This is being talked about on the forum.electricunicycle.org and a lot of us are concerned about it.

 

Gotway:

100v-160v
not just 100v

We have launched the 100V version for more than three years, so please rest assured

[FlyboyEUC]

If you guys aren't following EUCO.us on instagram or youtube, you should. They received their MSP a couple days ago and testing is in progress. Get ready, the MSP has landed! Live unboxing Sunday Jan 26th at 2pm PST.

[Marty Backe]

1 hour ago, Flyboy10 said:

If you guys aren't following EUCO.us on instagram or youtube, you should. They received their MSP a couple days ago and testing is in progress. Get ready, the MSP has landed! Live unboxing Sunday Jan 26th at 2pm PST.

It's frustrating (for me) that Jason always seems to be the last to get new wheels 

1 hour ago, Flyboy10 said:

If you guys aren't following EUCO.us on instagram or youtube, you should. They received their MSP a couple days ago and testing is in progress. Get ready, the MSP has landed! Live unboxing Sunday Jan 26th at 2pm PST.

You mean they actually have the wheel but haven't unboxed it yet???

[night_ombudsman]

2 hours ago, Marty Backe said:

It's frustrating (for me) that Jason always seems to be the last to get new wheels 

You mean they actually have the wheel but haven't unboxed it yet???

They must be inside the box, testing.

[FlyboyEUC]

I thought everyone opened everything up  before the "unboxing video" so they could be prepared and know what the heck they are talking about. That's what I've always done. Wheels need to be charged up anyways, so you have to unbox it partially at least. 

[Fuerte]

And...

[FlyboyEUC]

[Fuerte]

I was trying to find the video on youtube and I didn't see anything, are they going to post later? I would love to see it.

[FlyboyEUC]

Just now, Fuerte said:

I was trying to find the video on youtube and I didn't see anything, are they going to post later? I would love to see it.

They will post it. 

To clarify the results above, apparently the MSP was built for more torque and acceleration at the cost of top speed (which most will never hit)

[Fuerte]

Thanks flyboy10, I went online and I couldn't figure it out.

[FlyboyEUC]

To sum up the unboxing:

• two headlights are smaller but brighter. They also adjust brightness depending on speed much like the Nikola
• the plastic shell is bigger slightly but the thin pad makes it the same thickness as the MSX with the big pad.
• Speaker startup sound is the same as the Nikola. Speaker quality is great but exposed.
• pedal angle is way extreme
• the cutoff switch is not latching, so you have to hold it down. The seat also engages the cutoff switch so you cant ride seated with the standard seat.

Edit:  The tilt angle on the MSX is better than the MSP. Meaning the MSX can lean further before cutoff. Will get numbers soon.

 

Edited January 27, 2020 by Flyboy10

[Fuerte]

Those pedals are very extreme, it appears, from my 100v MSX. I wonder if it is because Jason puts on the bigger Nikola pedals...I don't know enough to know if it makes a difference.

[Lukas83]

6 minutes ago, Flyboy10 said:

To sum up the unboxing:

• two headlights are smaller but brighter. They also adjust brightness depending on speed much like the Nikola
• the plastic shell is bigger slightly but the thin pad makes it the same thickness as the MSX with the big pad.
• Speaker startup sound is the same as the Nikola. Speaker quality is great but exposed.
• pedal angle is way extreme
• the cutoff switch is not latching, so you have to hold it down. The seat also engages the cutoff switch so you cant ride seated with the standard seat.

 

 

hmm.. that angle looks very uncomfortable... but I like the preferred torque and acceleration more than just more speed... 

[Old Glider]

Here’s hoping the downhill braking is improved 

[FlyboyEUC]

18 minutes ago, Old Glider said:

Here’s hoping the downhill braking is improved 

Haha. Yup. Now who is going to hop on first? 

[AtlasP]

Jesus, that pedal angle. :-(

And here I am wishing you could get a high-end Gotway wheel that didn't have their already ridiculous pedal angles, and they go and make it /worse/?

 

Edited January 27, 2020 by AtlasP

[Planemo]

To be fair though it's such a simple fix that if I were in the market for a Pro it wouldn't fuss me at all.

It took me all of 30 minutes to file my Nikola pedals to my liking. It only takes a small amount to change the angle significantly.

[mrelwood]

22 minutes ago, Planemo said:

To be fair though it's such a simple fix that if I were in the market for a Pro it wouldn't fuss me at all.

It took me all of 30 minutes to file my Nikola pedals to my liking. It only takes a small amount to change the angle significantly.

I fully agree, I did it on my MSX very soon after receiving. No problem for me either. The problem is that there are a lot of people that truly are fingerless when it comes to doing stuff like this. Many people don’t even own a file. A wild thought... would you let just anybody to file down the pedals on your wheel? 

Gotway needs to fix that angle. Simple as that. Every review on these demo models will tell them that.

Although, they will probably then go down to a 0˚ angle for the production model. Then since 97% of customers complain and they will start shipping regular MSX pedals to hundreds of customers... Sigh.

But if this is the worst ”MSProGate”, it’s not too bad, and they are upping their game! 

[Marty Backe]

4 hours ago, Flyboy10 said:

They will post it. 

To clarify the results above, apparently the MSP was built for more torque and acceleration at the cost of top speed (which most will never hit)

That's exactly why I want it - torque for climbing/descending hills.

[Marty Backe]

4 hours ago, Flyboy10 said:

To sum up the unboxing:

• two headlights are smaller but brighter. They also adjust brightness depending on speed much like the Nikola
• the plastic shell is bigger slightly but the thin pad makes it the same thickness as the MSX with the big pad.
• Speaker startup sound is the same as the Nikola. Speaker quality is great but exposed.
• pedal angle is way extreme
• the cutoff switch is not latching, so you have to hold it down. The seat also engages the cutoff switch so you cant ride seated with the standard seat.

I've never heard of a cutoff switch that is latching. Did you mean to say something else?

[ZenRyder]

14 minutes ago, Marty Backe said:

I've never heard of a cutoff switch that is latching. Did you mean to say something else?

You may not have heard of it, but that's how I implemented my MSX mod and it works great. The choice is to use a momentary on/off or a toggle on/off switch. Both options work. I can push the switch once to engage the motor cut off, lift the wheel over a road block or carry up the stairs, and then push it again to disengage once you reach the destination. You can see when the switch is depressed (it's flush) and when it's off (it extends out so you can see it's off). It's a lot easier than trying to hold down the switch while lifting 50+ lbs of steel, rubber, and lithium ion.

But hey, it's a great workout. This is a picture of me doing a little strength building with the MSX. Notice I don't have to have my thumb on the switch while lifting with this method.

All joking aside. I do think the toggle on/off option is better and that is how my mod works.

[Seba]

6 hours ago, Flyboy10 said:

They will post it. 

To clarify the results above, apparently the MSP was built for more torque and acceleration at the cost of top speed (which most will never hit)

And it's a smart move IMO. For speed freaks Gotway already has 100V models. MSX was a winner in different off-road or more agressive activities, so increased torque and acceleration will make it even more fit for these use cases. If they only could change the tire for more grippy/knobby... 

[EMA]

2 hours ago, ZenRyder said:

You may not have heard of it, but that's how I implemented my MSX mod and it works great. The choice is to use a momentary on/off or a toggle on/off switch. Both options work. I can push the switch once to engage the motor cut off, lift the wheel over a road block or carry up the stairs, and then push it again to disengage once you reach the destination. You can see when the switch is depressed (it's flush) and when it's off (it extends out so you can see it's off). It's a lot easier than trying to hold down the switch while lifting 50+ lbs of steel, rubber, and lithium ion.

But hey, it's a great workout. This is a picture of me doing a little strength building with the MSX. Notice I don't have to have my thumb on the switch while lifting with this method.

All joking aside. I do think the toggle on/off option is better and that is how my mod works.

same for me, i had a toggle on/off, way more convenient