Popular Post musk Posted July 9, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 9, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Michael Tucker said: Why is "boring" a bad word. I felt my KS18L/XL wheels were very exciting when I first started wheeling 2 years ago. Now they feel boring and too easy with no personality. My Monster also became too boring. The XL and Monster were super reliable and safe, both amazing wheels. But I want excitement and challenge. 35mph on the Monster was boring, 35mph on the Nikola is wild. Sidewalk cruzing with the XL in tight spaces was big and boring too, a switch to KS16X is super fun in the same setting. Boring is personal and changes over time. The V11 may be boring, but if it can provide a calm seated ride and painless trolling experience, it can still have a place in an advance rider's stable. "Excitement and challenge" improvements in the EUC industry have thus far been provided by the increase of speed/power (allowing more technical control), increases in wheel diameter (allowing more bumpy terrain), and range (for longer or less efficient riding). For all but the most extreme riders, the V11 appears to satisfy those needs and for them this wheel will be the most exciting wheel they've ever used. For invincible youths with extreme-sports passions who are constantly chasing the dragon to find new ways of putting their body in danger, there will never be enough speed to stave off the boredom of the previous generation. Unlike the most extreme people, I've not become desensitized to the euphoria of riding on previous generation wheels. If having 5mph less top speed makes a great wheel "boring", I can understand where these enthusiasts are coming from but I strongly disagree. I think riding an EUC on any terrain, at any speed, is inherently fun. It's not really a big deal either way, but it feels a a little condescending. I still like the guy and watch his videos. They're entertaining and well made. Edited July 9, 2020 by musk 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gon2fast Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 24 minutes ago, Unventor said: I don't agree with this. They made a suspension system, but to fit it they balanced out not only how it works, but thee space and maintenance without too big a sacrifice. Calling that inferior, is to me a statement that need lots of salt. But I do agree we have not seen if the bigger motor rating changes the ride and combined with higher pedal height it could also impact the ride sensation. I still think that you have to look at suspension as assisting to mitigate unevenness of the ride (scale of success) or eliminating any unevenness of a ride (either yes or no). And then add the cost of what other compromises. Due to this I can’t see pitching S18 vs V11, as they aim for different (very) target groups. The S18 simply do not fit what I want due to the sacrifices made in its design. My comment was based on what I felt the reviewer was trying to convey. My personal opinion is much different from what was reported. Regardless of which manufacturer has the better design, at this moment in time, it is still going to be a major upgrade to any non-suspension wheel. For a slightly higher price one gets an upgraded unit on many fronts so the choice is obvious for me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unventor Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, davinche said: Don't you think it's rude to just reduce someone's video to "It is just entertainment nothing more"? Creating content is an extremely time consuming process and the lack of recognition / gratitude for even having content produced for such a niche hobby is bewildering to me. Nope I don't. It is made to be headline news, but like I said earlier, we have different opinions. and in that context I stand 100% to my comment. 2 hours ago, davinche said: He didn't write it off though. I rewatched the video just to see if there was any merit in your claim - there is none. He asked for comments yesterday in WhatsApp channel from Inmotion. I said this: Quote There are good and bad parts of the review. I like you showed how the top part are constructed. But some of editing feels very jumpy and not as smooth as other things you have done before. But as a question, since you don't find this wheel exciting what does it take to come to a different conclusion? I don't find fishing exciting, I don't have the patience for the waiting. I know we don't share safety and speed opinions. But I think the V11 look to be one of the best wheels ever made. But I have yet to ride one. The reply I got was: Quote [19:44, 2020-07-08] The disjointed editing wasn’t a mistake. Just FWIW. But it was boring mainly because of the speed and inability to say pump it into jumps like the s18. [19:45, 2020-07-08] The suspension is simple like a car suspension. Which is great. [19:46, 2020-07-08] But no one is gonna wanna drive wild in a Beamer. A corvette or Bugatti maybe. Or even a monster truck (s18). But overall it’s just the best city commuter wheel. But nothing sexy like the s18 [19:52, 2020-07-08] I mean i like to give a truthful review and then my personal bias at the end. Not everyone agrees. [19:52, 2020-07-08] It’s no secret I’m a huge GotWay fan in which I responded: Quote [19:52, 2020-07-08] Rudi (Unventor): @Mickey evX we buy things for different reasons. If you look for an extreme that is one thing. But from an EUC community point of view and that some people use an EUC as replacement to a car especially in cities, I think the V11 is a very important new wheel. It is about a practical and useful product. Not something you need to tinker with very 2miles. I don't view the S18 as sexy. And they are not doing same job. Looking at final production models I still think the V11 is a much more complete product. Anyway I guess we see things from very different angle s. Which is all fine. Diversity of wheels is a good thing. [19:53, 2020-07-08] Rudi (Unventor): Hehe and I the oppersite. No secret either. it went a bit on from that. the short version, he think he gave a pissitive review but button line he don't want to buy it (my interpatation, 100%) and I just don't think the review show the wheel in the light you could have done. If you made the review longer. and this is where I am 200% on this comment I added yesterday. evX: [19:54, 2020-07-08] I’m fairly certain i pointed out that it’s the perfect commuter wheel. The whole package... [19:54, 2020-07-08] I also use my EUC as a car. I live in nyc and don’t own a vehicle Me: Adding sugar doesn't make a dessert. It is about the full recipe. 😉 Now he got unhappy. which is fair enough. (it wasn't what I aimed for but it happens. But this is now when I am comming to my point. Both of us view things differently. If you ask for an opinion be prepared to get it. what you do wit it is up to you at the receiving end. his final coment: Unventor strikes again at which my reply: But I said it was entertaining 😟 His review has not moved me in any direction. If you compare the work DUF made that had much more info on what to expect. I view DUFs work to add much more value to a decission making process. That was informative and entertaning at the same time. Now had he (evX) not asked for opinions I would have just seen it and forgotten it. But he asked with intention to make sure V11 buyers would watch it. If you compare evX video and the night ride vide from DUF you will see why my view is so very different to the reviews. Very important footnote: I fully understand people have diffrent opinions. It really doesn't matter if you agree with me or not. This post is to show where my opinon comes from. and I were clear about this the other day too here in the forum. I don't think it is a big deal. Sometimes I can choose to be diplomatic other times I can't be bothered. As a moderator I have to be diplomatic. But as a member I make my choices. All of the above is as a member. Now I hope Inmotion post something today as they approched me yesterday that the couldn't access the forum. But it got sorted out, so I expected they were to announce something. We shall see. Edited July 9, 2020 by Gimlet Removed phone numbers 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post davinche Posted July 9, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 9, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Unventor said: Nope I don't. It is made to be headline news, but like I said earlier, we have different opinions. and in that context I stand 100% to my comment. He asked for comments yesterday in WhatsApp channel from Inmotion. I said this: The reply I got was: in which I responded: it went a bit on from that. the short version, he think he gave a pissitive review but button line he don't want to buy it (my interpatation, 100%) and I just don't think the review show the wheel in the light you could have done. If you made the review longer. and this is where I am 200% on this comment I added yesterday. evX: [19:54, 2020-07-08] ---: I’m fairly certain i pointed out that it’s the perfect commuter wheel. The whole package... [19:54, 2020-07-08] ---: I also use my EUC as a car. I live in nyc and don’t own a vehicle Me: Adding sugar doesn't make a dessert. It is about the full recipe. 😉 Now he got unhappy. which is fair enough. (it wasn't what I aimed for but it happens. But this is now when I am comming to my point. Both of us view things differently. If you ask for an opinion be prepared to get it. what you do wit it is up to you at the receiving end. his final coment: Unventor strikes again at which my reply: But I said it was entertaining 😟 His review has not moved me in any direction. If you compare the work DUF made that had much more info on what to expect. I view DUFs work to add much more value to a decission making process. That was informative and entertaning at the same time. Now had he (evX) not asked for opinions I would have just seen it and forgotten it. But he asked with intention to make sure V11 buyers would watch it. If you compare evX video and the night ride vide from DUF you will see why my view is so very different to the reviews. Very important footnote: I fully understand people have diffrent opinions. It really doesn't matter if you agree with me or not. This post is to show where my opinon comes from. and I were clear about this the other day too here in the forum. I don't think it is a big deal. Sometimes I can choose to be diplomatic other times I can't be bothered. As a moderator I have to be diplomatic. But as a member I make my choices. All of the above is as a member. Now I hope Inmotion post something today as they approched me yesterday that the couldn't access the forum. But it got sorted out, so I expected they were to announce something. We shall see. What purpose do these quotes serve? What point are you trying to make? As I already said and demonstrated, his entire video is basically praising the V11 so again, I'm not sure why you would go and say he is only "entertainment and nothing more". Like.. what does "Adding sugar doesn't make a dessert. It is about the full recipe." even supposed to mean? Also, if you don't find it rude... then I don't know what else to say. I've called you out before: there were a couple of instances where others (including myself) have found that some of your comments are unnecessarily assertive/condescending. Edited July 9, 2020 by Chriull grammar, Chriull: remove phone numbers from quoted text 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post onizukagto Posted July 9, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 9, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Unventor said: Nope I don't. It is made to be headline news, but like I said earlier, we have different opinions. and in that context I stand 100% to my comment. He asked for comments yesterday in WhatsApp channel from Inmotion. I said this: The reply I got was: in which I responded: it went a bit on from that. the short version, he think he gave a pissitive review but button line he don't want to buy it (my interpatation, 100%) and I just don't think the review show the wheel in the light you could have done. If you made the review longer. and this is where I am 200% on this comment I added yesterday. evX: [19:54, 2020-07-08] ---: I’m fairly certain i pointed out that it’s the perfect commuter wheel. The whole package... [19:54, 2020-07-08] ---: I also use my EUC as a car. I live in nyc and don’t own a vehicle Me: Adding sugar doesn't make a dessert. It is about the full recipe. 😉 Now he got unhappy. which is fair enough. (it wasn't what I aimed for but it happens. But this is now when I am comming to my point. Both of us view things differently. If you ask for an opinion be prepared to get it. what you do wit it is up to you at the receiving end. his final coment: Unventor strikes again at which my reply: But I said it was entertaining 😟 His review has not moved me in any direction. If you compare the work DUF made that had much more info on what to expect. I view DUFs work to add much more value to a decission making process. That was informative and entertaning at the same time. Now had he (evX) not asked for opinions I would have just seen it and forgotten it. But he asked with intention to make sure V11 buyers would watch it. If you compare evX video and the night ride vide from DUF you will see why my view is so very different to the reviews. Very important footnote: I fully understand people have diffrent opinions. It really doesn't matter if you agree with me or not. This post is to show where my opinon comes from. and I were clear about this the other day too here in the forum. I don't think it is a big deal. Sometimes I can choose to be diplomatic other times I can't be bothered. As a moderator I have to be diplomatic. But as a member I make my choices. All of the above is as a member. Now I hope Inmotion post something today as they approched me yesterday that the couldn't access the forum. But it got sorted out, so I expected they were to announce something. We shall see. interesting. Thank you for the insight, but just a question, Is it wise to show evX phone number on this forum? Maybe i'm just a little paranoid lately (Just check my location), maybe you should blank it just in case. Edited July 9, 2020 by Chriull Chriull: removed phone numbers from quoted text 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post stephen Posted July 9, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 9, 2020 In the evx video he did say the v11 has the torque of the 16x and speed of the msx (my favourite 2 wheels) all combined into one + suspension 👍 it can't be that boring 😁 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post stephen Posted July 9, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 9, 2020 4 minutes ago, VizioN-Scope said: Looks cool as f__k 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onizukagto Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 13 minutes ago, VizioN-Scope said: I like it! Chrome is nice, but it can get scruffy easily, especially if it's only plated on plastic and not polished metal. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unventor Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 1 hour ago, onizukagto said: interesting. Thank you for the insight, but just a question, Is it wise to show evX phone number on this forum? Maybe i'm just a little paranoid lately (Just check my location), maybe you should blank it just in case. No ablolutely not. It was a miskate on my behalf I didn't see that it was part of the copy paste from a platform where these are pubic shown. A memeber raised this on an report, and a fellow Moderator have modified my post before I had the oppertunity to rectify my mistakt. And I sit back with red cheeks of embarisment for my mistake. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 18 minutes ago, onizukagto said: I like it! Chrome is nice, but it can get scruffy easily, especially if it's only plated on plastic and not polished metal. I want the orange logo but i have first batch and it will be silver so if anyone wants to swap 😁 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onizukagto Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 11 minutes ago, stephen said: I want the orange logo but i have first batch and it will be silver so if anyone wants to swap 😁 i wish! Just bought a V10F last month and the Missus (CFO of the Family) gave me a hard EUC budget limit. So won't be able to get the V11 until next year......or when my V10F breaks. *tries to ride the v10F harder* 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post FreeRide Posted July 9, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 9, 2020 (edited) Don't take these reviews too personally, and remember "boring" is not actually a direct characteristic of any inanimate object, or really of anything. Now back to the wheel, looking great, and evx did show it well. We are so lucky to have such variety in wheels, I'd even be excited with a simple 1500Wh Gotway-Tesla with a 2.5" tire; the refinement of a wheel class. This summer with 2 suspension wheels, a new company producing an outstanding long-range wheel, a torque monster, a new big cruiser in the works, and promises of some new wheels coming that will evolve or expand the product again. We are watching the true next generation of wheels again. Exciting times! Edited July 9, 2020 by FreeRide 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post D3m0nzz Posted July 9, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 9, 2020 (edited) Honestly, the EVX review is what swayed me to getting this as my next wheel. I needed to see what an NYC rider who is used to high-speed wheels thought about it before I bought. InMotion has always been unmatched for polish and features but just a little bit lacking in the speed and torque department. Micky's review put my worries to rest. Edited July 9, 2020 by D3m0nzz 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iode Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 5 hours ago, stephen said: I want the orange logo but i have first batch and it will be silver so if anyone wants to swap 😁 But then how will anyone know that you have a first batch/first edition V11? 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 Just now, iode said: But then how will anyone know that you have a first batch/first edition V11? 😉 From this post now😁 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeRide Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 (edited) It's easier to black out the chrome though! Then you have the best Edited July 9, 2020 by FreeRide Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 24 minutes ago, FreeRide said: It's easier to black out the chrome though! Then you have the best But i want the orange Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fryman Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 37 minutes ago, stephen said: But i want the orange Chrome or orange, its still ugly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 24 minutes ago, fryman said: Chrome or orange, its still ugly. I like it tbh 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unventor Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 53 minutes ago, stephen said: I like it tbh I agree, it looks much better than a GW Niloka sticker half falling of at unboxing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EUC Custom Power-Pads Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 OMG...I think someone urgently needs this after the EVX V11 review. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fryman Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 46 minutes ago, Unventor said: I agree, it looks much better than a GW Niloka sticker half falling of at unboxing. Wow, that's a pretty high standard to beat....Lol 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeRide Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 Oh no, this wheel must be really boring because we are all talking about the color of the logo. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mike Dobbs Posted July 9, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 9, 2020 I'm getting the V11, and am pretty confident that's the right choice FOR ME, but I am still kinda feeling like this right now. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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