Nifrigel Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 I'm very impressed how Kuji was able to ride down the stairs on both V11 and S18. It looks like suspension really makes wonders. Or maybe Kuji's riding & balancing skills are out of this world. I wonder if an ordinary rider can ride down the stairs on suspension EUC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeRide Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 4 hours ago, mrelwood said: ..... I’m sure most V8’s are bought as the first wheel, after which they soon realize how much more .... I'm not so sure, in fact Iif I had to guess I'd say you were wrong. Many V8 owners become V8F owners for various reasons, but many seem to be quite happy with their V8. I don't see a flood of used V8 wheels on the market or people coming here crying about their V8 purchase; and the V8F was made for a reason, so.... In fact many commuters have tried many wheels and overall still prefer the V8 from what I've read on the net. While i think the V8F could have been lower priced and a bigger battery, their target audience seems fine with it. the people on this forum are more the niche market, inside the already niche EUIC market. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimjam.nyc Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 6 minutes ago, FreeRide said: I'm not so sure, in fact Iif I had to guess I'd say you were wrong. Many V8 owners become V8F owners for various reasons, but many seem to be quite happy with their V8. I don't see a flood of used V8 wheels on the market or people coming here crying about their V8 purchase; and the V8F was made for a reason, so.... In fact many commuters have tried many wheels and overall still prefer the V8 from what I've read on the net. While i think the V8F could have been lower priced and a bigger battery, their target audience seems fine with it. the people on this forum are more the niche market, inside the already niche EUIC market. I have a V8 and a KS16x.. I still ride and am happy with my V8. Especially after getting the 16x (which i love).. I get on the V8 and it is a very fun wheel to ride.. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_bike_kite Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 1 hour ago, mrelwood said: Since the suspension wheels are seemingly having a great number of preorders, the message is sent: this is what we want. I don't want one.I find it fascinating to read about these new wheels but, if I was to get a new wheel, then it's likely to be a more standard touring wheel just because of price, range and weight. Do we know how many of these suspended wheels have been preordered? Or even the sales of other more standard wheels? 1 hour ago, Nifrigel said: I'm very impressed how Kuji was able to ride down the stairs on both V11 and S18. I was very impressed that Kuji could lift the V11 up onto the kerb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heyzeus Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 6 hours ago, WI_Hedgehog said: Plus, it has batteries in the hub! It's very controllable due to a great design! Are the batteries actually in the hub / rim, and rotate? I can't imagine they would want the batteries to rotate with the wheel? From the pics I assumed the batteries were just a single layer in really close to the case to keep a low profile but not actually in the hub. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fbhb Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Heyzeus said: Are the batteries actually in the hub / rim, and rotate? I can't imagine they would want the batteries to rotate with the wheel? From the pics I assumed the batteries were just a single layer in really close to the case to keep a low profile but not actually in the hub. No, the batteries are Not located in the hub but are encased in their own enclosures on each side of the wheel, as can be seen in the image below. Only the Ninebot Z10 has the batteries actually situated inside the concave/offset hub of the wheel and they Do Not rotate in the Z10! Edited June 1, 2020 by fbhb 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Unventor Posted June 1, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 1, 2020 45 minutes ago, Heyzeus said: Are the batteries actually in the hub / rim, and rotate? I can't imagine they would want the batteries to rotate with the wheel? If you compare the V8 and V10 series the V11 has a much bigger battery they could not fit that on top as they did before. They have done the best way they could to maintain a slim design. By having the battery matching the rim shape is the simplest way to make predictable behaviour of the wheel. They didn't just slap a battery pack on the wheel. They kept looking at ride dynamics and balance. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying W Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 So if they really wanted too, and it would be super heavy, inmotion could add a second layer of batteries making it a 3k watt hr wheel and only need to make new batter holders and side covers. This would make it wider of course but maybe still on par with some of the wider wheels already out. Would anyone here have interest in a 70 plus pound wheel with a 3k watt hr battery? And in sure a $2500 or more price tag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaveCut Posted June 2, 2020 Author Share Posted June 2, 2020 It will be unsprung so its bad idea 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBladeOfHades Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 So excited to see them start shipping! anyone know any official dates? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unventor Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 21 minutes ago, TheBladeOfHades said: So excited to see them start shipping! anyone know any official dates? Shipping what? I don't think production of V11 has started yet. They are still testing and fine tuning things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBladeOfHades Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 I was under the impression they were going to start sending out batches mid June. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sentient Posted June 3, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 3, 2020 I may have to wait till 2021!! Before picking a v11 up. It looks like the ONE. Big battery. Inmotion quality. Great headlight and taillight. Intelligent BMS(great feature that goes under the radar) 18 inch wheel. May be just right.... Too bad about the mid season availability though. Does anyone know if the firmware will be upgradable? ie kingsong 16x. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UniVehje Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Sentient said: Does anyone know if the firmware will be upgradable? Yes, it will be upgradable. InMotions have been for a very long time. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onizukagto Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 The intelligent BMS is pretty great when you think about it, if one pack fails for whatever reason, (accident, vandalism, deadbattery) you can still limp on. Replacement will be easier, whether you do it yourself or by a third party. Reduce the risk of mods or bad replacement burning you up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrelwood Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 On 6/1/2020 at 9:59 PM, Nifrigel said: I wonder if an ordinary rider can ride down the stairs on suspension EUC. Well... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fbhb Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 Fantomas is in No Way an ordinary rider, he is undoubtedly the most Extraordinary rider on the planet right now! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Unventor Posted June 3, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 3, 2020 Today we got some really nice news from Inmotion posted on their WhatsApp channel by @Liamfind. They are adjusting max pedal height to 24cm On a follow-.up question form me, Liam confirmed that should correlate to 16cm lowest pedal height. (in comparison the KS16X have 18cm). Liam said he will ask if they can/will change to magnetic pedal hold (as Z10/KS16X) vs the V8/V10 series friction hold pedals. Charger upgrade: 1.5A to 2.5A pr port (no additional charge), as I understand this is no added cost to wheel price. (it is unclear if that changes the charger coming with the wheel as standard . originally it was said to be a 1,5A charger). They are talking lowest voltage on battery too today, but more feedback came in so I don't know what they are doing other than listening and testing from what I gather. 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Sacristan Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 Did I ever tell you guys about the time that one of the battery connectors on my 16X burned up and the wheel was still running although with only one of the battery packs in use? I was still able to reach full speed... it just took me a while to figure out what was going on when I discovered a sudden huge range loss as well as voltage sag. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazarinho Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 On 6/1/2020 at 8:59 PM, Nifrigel said: I'm very impressed how Kuji was able to ride down the stairs on both V11 and S18. It looks like suspension really makes wonders. Or maybe Kuji's riding & balancing skills are out of this world. I wonder if an ordinary rider can ride down the stairs on suspension EUC. Depends on your definition of ordinary. If it's possible on a EUC, and you practice enough, you will be able to do it. I've been riding down (and up) things recently I would never have thought possible when I started riding, and that I wouldn't even attempt with a mountain bike (and I've ridden a bike down stairs). Kuji has ridden down a lot of stairs, without suspension, so of course this looks even more like a breeze with suspension. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unventor Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 41 minutes ago, Mike Sacristan said: Did I ever tell you guys about the time that one of the battery connectors on my 16X burned up and the wheel was still running although with only one of the battery packs in use? I was still able to reach full speed... it just took me a while to figure out what was going on when I discovered a sudden huge range loss as well as voltage sag. I seem to recall a picture of that ....From what I understand it is something similar the V11 should be able to do , ride on with only 1 pack operating but also more work into balancing these packs. They might be talking of same think or might be better or worse it is really hard to get this level of details right as they hardly show/document how they do it. But I understand that you are getting one of these massive GW battery packed wheels with possible "winter heating" build into the wheel too? Just that they are beta testing season detection or something? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBladeOfHades Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 2 hours ago, fbhb said: Fantomas is in No Way an ordinary rider, he is undoubtedly the most Extraordinary rider on the planet right now! His stance, in my opinion is what allows him to do what he can. Watch his feet during his carves in “casual ride" foot forward changes the feel of a euc to something closer to a snowboard or longboard while carving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WI_Hedgehog Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 54 minutes ago, TheBladeOfHades said: His stance, in my opinion is what allows him to do what he can. Watch his feet during his carves in “casual ride" foot forward changes the feel of a euc to something closer to a snowboard or longboard while carving. He has fairly non-typical riding positions. For stairs he leans back, keeps his shins straight, and tilts his feet forward/down. (I'd fall off.) Also of note, that's a non-suspension EUC in @mrelwood's video, though a suspension should help make stairs easier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tryptych Posted June 3, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 3, 2020 On 5/30/2020 at 12:54 PM, Oscapuss said: I ordered 16x from smartwheel. I recieved shipping notification from a company I've never heard of. Googled into it and read really terrible things. Got a little worried... The shipping company they use is actually terrible. Took weeks and they eventually lost it. I got a notification that the package was delivered and signed for, yet nothing delivered. I had to call and figure out what happened after dealing with useless customer service from shipping company for several days. Turns out they accidentally delivered it to a home hardware instead. I had to drive there and pick it up myself, because they wouldn't arrange the shipment. Will never order from smartwheel again. I ordered 16x replacement parts from ewheels after I had a cut out and they arrived within 36 hours, no issues. Jason was extremely helpful and responded same night. Exchange rate winds up being the same. Will only order from ewheels in the future. For the Canadians on this forum: I asked Smartwheel.ca about your post, they now only use UPS to ship. They also offered to let me pick it up in Burlington. They seem reputable from what I've seen. I will let you know, loud and clear, if it turns out they are not A reminder: if you order from eWheels you will be dinged for Duty and Tax when it crosses the border. This caught me by surprise the first time I ordered my V8 from eWheels (I love Jason too but it would be a significant amount of money on a V11 $2000 USD purchase). This, plus the moronic political situation down there, is the reason I'm buying domestic this time (Sorry Jason!). For Canadians here's is a duty/tax calculator: https://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/travel-voyage/dte-acl/est-cal-eng.html (they don't have a section for EUCs, the closest thing I could find was Sports/Bicycles). 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscapuss Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 On 5/30/2020 at 12:54 PM, Oscapuss said: I ordered 16x from smartwheel. I recieved shipping notification from a company I've never heard of. Googled into it and read really terrible things. Got a little worried... The shipping company they use is actually terrible. Took weeks and they eventually lost it. I got a notification that the package was delivered and signed for, yet nothing delivered. I had to call and figure out what happened after dealing with useless customer service from shipping company for several days. Turns out they accidentally delivered it to a home hardware instead. I had to drive there and pick it up myself, because they wouldn't arrange the shipment. Will never order from smartwheel again. I ordered 16x replacement parts from ewheels after I had a cut out and they arrived within 36 hours, no issues. Jason was extremely helpful and responded same night. Exchange rate winds up being the same. Will only order from ewheels in the future. 50 minutes ago, Tryptych said: For the Canadians on this forum: I asked Smartwheel.ca about your post, they now only use UPS to ship. They also offered to let me pick it up in Burlington. They seem reputable from what I've seen. I will let you know, loud and clear, if it turns out they are not A reminder: if you order from eWheels you will be dinged for Duty and Tax when it crosses the border. This caught me by surprise the first time I ordered my V8 from eWheels (I love Jason too but it would be a significant amount of money on a V11 $2000 USD purchase). This, plus the moronic political situation down there, is the reason I'm buying domestic this time (Sorry Jason!). For Canadians here's is a duty/tax calculator: https://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/travel-voyage/dte-acl/est-cal-eng.html (they don't have a section for EUCs, the closest thing I could find was Sports/Bicycles). Have no doubt they are reputable company, and service dept seemed very friendly and helpful. Only the shipping company I'm talking about. Had they lost wheel and I was stuck in middle of a claim that dragged out for months, I'd happily pay duty fees for the peace of mind. Had I known they switched companies i would have probably gone with them again, but i wanted to avoid dealing with previous company again. At any cost. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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