Popular Post mrelwood Posted May 25, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 25, 2020 5 minutes ago, Patton250 said: What is the definition of a “professional rider”? There isn’t one. A definition that is. My guess is they meant “advanced”, “more advanced”, or “the most advanced”. 5 minutes ago, Patton250 said: I’m learning something new about EUC’s every day. Today’s lesson wasn’t on EUCs though, but on how to communicate with people. Especially with Chinese people who (are trying to) speak English. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 (edited) Maybe @Kuji Rolls is a "professional rider"? Edited May 25, 2020 by Nic 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Wood Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, mrelwood said: What is the definition of a “professional rider”? Presumably gotway riders judging by how some people act lol didn't you know they go faster so that makes them better riders than us slow folk happy at 20 to 30mph, just like the v10 isn't a performance wheel debate because it's restricted to 25mph despite it having a 2000W Motor that's comparable to the 'faster' wheels Edited May 25, 2020 by Dave Wood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patton250 Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 1 hour ago, mrelwood said: There isn’t one. A definition that is. My guess is they meant “advanced”, “more advanced”, or “the most advanced”. Today’s lesson wasn’t on EUCs though, but on how to communicate with people. Especially with Chinese people who (are trying to) speak English. There also seems to be riders that are willing to take a lot more risk (professionals?) than others. Nothing wrong with that of course but it definitely allows you to video more cool stuff you did and filter out all the accidents you had getting there. :-) At 50 years old with an incredibly important job (for my family) I’m not going to do anything that will cause me to face plant other than the wheel cutting out and that wouldn’t be my fault. i’m willing to take that risk. I enjoy watching others take incredible risks. They pull off some cool stuff. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Patton250 Posted May 25, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 25, 2020 4 minutes ago, Dave Wood said: Presumably gotway riders judging by how some people act lol didn't you know they go faster so that makes them better more professional riders than us slow folk happy at 20 to 30mph, just like the v10 isn't a performance wheel debate because it's restricted to 25mph despite it having a 2000W Motor that's comparable to the 'faster' wheels. Hey bro these guys all complain about new GW and KS wheels not meeting their hopes or high standards or how they would build them as well. It’s not just IM. I’m only a couple years into this hobby but every new wheel that comes out it’s always the same complaints. “ it’s not fast enough” , “The battery isn’t big enough” , “it doesn’t charge fast enough“ , “ The stock tires sucks” , “it cuts back too soon”, “this current firmware (except GW of course) sucks”. The only thing different about this wheel is now they can complain about the shocks. :-) 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cumulus Libre Posted May 25, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 25, 2020 I like every bit of my V10f and my KS18L I really look forward to the new V11 and KS18S , and I really can't resonate with all the negative vibes about wheels they even didn't test merely based on specs.. The need for extra speed and even more range or batteries is more a niche market if you ask me, I am quite happy with the speed I get on my wheels so far, but then again I am maybe not the daredevil as many are on here apparently , allthough I paraglide and kitesurf, ski at a decent level the whole of my life For the EUC community I can only wish that we get good products, products that comes with a good warranty , good safety and that governments belief in, so we can see the banns on euc's in countries lifted and been taking more serious by a wider group of people.. that will not work trough a never satisfying group of riders who wants more speed, nope it will come from a majority of happy riders that are sharing there joy of riding an EUC, and to all producers out there, I think they understand this need of conformity and reliability more then some of us, look at inmotion I think it's good they don't try to make the V11 much faster.. if you want to go faster buy a pimped up wheel at go to a track with it.. but don't annoy the bigger group by crashing and getting bigger and bigger injuries so the larger community will perceive EUC riders as irresponsible.. my 50 cent. 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unventor Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 Thank you @Cumulus Libre. It is nice to know I am not alone with the view let's get this EUC transport more accepted and then maybe tech improvement will allow more speed but right now it just risk EUC getting banned if we like it or not. I hope to see more of those 50 cents of yours here in the future. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WI_Hedgehog Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 On 4/22/2020 at 5:55 AM, mrelwood said: Inmotion has mentioned that pumping air to the suspension units once a month is all the maintenance that is required. They have a video on how to do it, it’s dead simple. But I’m not sure how many years of maintenance that covers. Maybe something else should also be done once every year or two years. Clean the main tube and occasionally use air spring lube to keep the seals lubricated. On 4/22/2020 at 10:37 AM, Phong Vu said: From all my air suspensions in my mountain bike and scooters, I never need to pump more air to it, just need to keep it clean, make sure there is no oil leak, and send to service if it broke... Either the Inmotion suspension is constantly losing air, or I'm maintaining the air suspensions all wrong Very high-pressure seals supporting 100% of the rider weight & batteries, plus probably not as high of quality suspension--it's not a $500 suspension they're putting in the wheel. On 4/22/2020 at 11:39 AM, Unventor said: When they measure a speed they have a few % tolerance added to accommodate any measured speeds. The longer you are away from this the higher risk you have at not getting away with it. If you ever see programs on tv with traffic cops how they work you see how they let people go when it is a borderline offence. Where the more offences and bigger they get they are less likely to let this slip. You call it what you like. I will still argue the more wheels that are above 50kmh the more risk it is we get the police focus upon us. I rather be able to ride in outskirts at 30-35 kmh than getting a ban because people push their limits partly for trolls partly to show off how pro they are. And this is something I still have to see any good point to swing my opinion. There is one thing. The requirement of a EUC above 25kmh riders licence. If that were in place then I am all in for it. Because that means that someone riding bad in traffic can loose their rights. It is good for you that you can use your current wheels for life and only replace the batteries and a little axle grease. The rest of the world might like a technology update. On 4/30/2020 at 9:43 AM, B08AH said: And i think top speed is a bit overrated. It may be "fun" but it is too impractical. Top speed does not contribute that much to average speed in a city, while drawing way more power. There is a lot of tall curbs, traffic lights, pedestrians and so on, to frequently slow me down or even stop. I experimented with limiting my top speed and have some results. With 40kmh limit I had 20kmh average (23.3km in 1h 10m). And with 25kmh limit my average speed only reduced to 17.5 kmh (15% slower), while power draw reduced by ~40%, i.e almost twice the range per charge. Average speed does not take into account the speed people travel at when it is safe to do so. Average speed would be a lot slower if the top speed was a lot slower. Thankfully many people ride safely, as @travsformation describes: On 5/16/2020 at 7:14 AM, travsformation said: Urban and suburban riding (bike lanes, side-walk riding + pedestrians, etc.), as well as off-roading, probably (partially) account for those stats. Also, take into account that these aren't average cruising speeds, but average speed in motion, so they include acceleration, deceleration, etc. I'm often surprised at how my average speed in motion for my EUC World tours is much lower than I thought it was. Testing FW 1.05 the other day I thought I'd been cruising at or above 40 km/h most of the ride, but when I looked at the stats, my avg. riding speed was 22 km/h. Slowing down for speed-bumps, stop-lights, turns, accelerating again, etc....comes to show. Check the avg. speed for some of your last tours, you'll see what I mean Like several people who are older and can afford wheels, my knees don't like the bumps after an hour or more either, so a suspension is a big upgrade. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AtlasP Posted May 27, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 27, 2020 (edited) ** MASSIVE OFFICIAL NEWS ON THE V11 ** All direct quotes: "Above 30%, Top speed 50km/h; Above 80%, Top speed, 55km/h. Btw, 55km/h is another firmware that will be shared on this forum not for standard version." "The reason why V11 can offer stronger power is that the size of V11 motor bearing is two times bigger than V10F. Moreover, the quantities of MOS unit on V11, 12 units, is also two times more of the V10F, 6 units. It means that V11 can bear bigger current, and not easy to overheat. ... In other words, the peak power of V11 is much stronger than V10F." "The capability of waterproof, and dust resistance is highly improved from the previous model. The IP rating of the whole body is IP 55. The battery is IP 67. " "Add-on accessories: Seat, BT Speakers, Decorative Ambient Light are under development." Original, longer-form source, here: Edited May 27, 2020 by AtlasP 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying W Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 I'm really hoping these suspended wheels sell very well. I may not jump on a first design but I also have a bum knee as well. Only problem is I also like to ride as long as possible. I can take breaks to let the knee not get too outta whack. I'm hoping for lighter more power dense battery chemistry to pair with suspended wheels. Say you have wheel that can go 40 mph but it's firmware limited to 31. This could give the illusion that speed throttling happens deep into the batter since it's limited from the get go. I'd be perfectly happy with that. Realistically a wheel that could maintain 18 to 25 mph for 40 or so miles before throttling and have suspension would amazing. If the suspension makes it way more knee friendly though then you'll hear me wishing more range anyway....it's just too damn relaxing after a long work week to glide around. I'm tired and rambling again....but reading what I just wrote makes me think I'm hoping for an 18xl with suspension....and a 3in tire.....which is kinda what the V11 is depending on when it throttles the speed down......maybe I am going to have to buy a first gen suspended wheel after all 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UniVehje Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 I really like the part which says the throttling is done the way we wanted it. And good idea to offer “enthusiasts only” firmware with more speed. I think InMotion wants to keep a decent power reserve For masses. Also nice to hear a seat is coming. Weatherproofing seems to be best in industry. A follow up question: how far are batteries depleted? What voltage is 30 % and 0 %? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfoxdude Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 (edited) The throttling sounds not too shabby, nice! And a seat, the V11 could be winning me over. Sounds like a super fun cruiser for sure. I still really like the adjustability of the S18's shock, but hey, maybe I wouldn't change it much in practice. The higher pedal clearance is nice, too. Looking forward to reviews from those receiving production samples!! Edited May 27, 2020 by redfoxdude 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying W Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 @AtlasP wow, thanks for sharing that post! 50kph down to 30% under load is great, a seat incoming is just icing on the cake. One last worry....being an avid sport bike rider for over 20yrs I like lean angle. Is there any info yet on how easy the pedals touch down? I would imagine a life corner dip could cause an otherwise great day to end in soreness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 Nice specifications ,I would also like to know what the batteries deplete to , V11 is looking good 👍👍 special firmware for Euc members ,maybe it will get updated to after several months of testing on here 😁 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chriull Posted May 27, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 27, 2020 4 hours ago, Liamfind said: Thank you @Chriull for giving us a special section to discuss our new innovative suspension wheel-Inmotion V11 electric unicycle. Thank you! But this was an coorporative task to discuss and find possibilities (of the forum software) for the manufacturer community communication from all moderators and the forum owner. I just happened to announce it to you. 4 hours ago, Liamfind said: Btw, 55km/h is another firmware that will be shared on this forum not for standard version. And many thanks for the bonus feature for the community! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Wood Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 5 hours ago, AtlasP said: ** MASSIVE OFFICIAL NEWS ON THE V11 ** All direct quotes: "Above 30%, Top speed 50km/h; Above 80%, Top speed, 55km/h. Btw, 55km/h is another firmware that will be shared on this forum not for standard version." "The reason why V11 can offer stronger power is that the size of V11 motor bearing is two times bigger than V10F. Moreover, the quantities of MOS unit on V11, 12 units, is also two times more of the V10F, 6 units. It means that V11 can bear bigger current, and not easy to overheat. ... In other words, the peak power of V11 is much stronger than V10F." "The capability of waterproof, and dust resistance is highly improved from the previous model. The IP rating of the whole body is IP 55. The battery is IP 67. " "Add-on accessories: Seat, BT Speakers, Decorative Ambient Light are under development." Original, longer-form source, here: More details about the tire changing procedure would be nice, possibly make a video demonstrating how easy or difficult it is? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unventor Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 (edited) @Liamfind Thank you for collecting the questions and answer into a more direct statement and clear overview. Can you share more details about pedals? Like if they are flat or angled (hopefully not as extreme as MSX/MSP). More like KS16X angel is my preferred angel. Also, if you are going to use the same "old school" Inmotion pedal style of hold pedal folded up? or if you are adopting the more user friendly of loose pedals hold in place by magnet (like KS16x)? Can you share a picture of the guide on suspension info that is attached to the pedals? Have you decided to use the tip of using stainless-steel hex screw (machine screws) as much as possible over the Philips soft metal self-cutting screws that can rust? Very short notice, I am so stoked about getting my V11. I know it is likely going to arrive late or after my summer vacation (3 weeks of August) as I got a bit late into the pre-order queue. But I am still looking very much forward to this fantastic look wheel both on specifications and looks. I also love that you have moved to BT5.0 BLE. I know some older phone might not like it, but BT5.0 is a standard on most modern phones. Edited May 27, 2020 by Unventor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post davinche Posted May 27, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 27, 2020 (edited) Anyone else really impressed with the way Inmotion is detailing the specs? I'm impressed not even because they are willing to give people the slightly higher speeds that many are asking for, but the fact that @Liamfind made the effort into detailing why they are able to do it (explaining how the motor in the V11 is different, # MOSFETs etc). Edited May 28, 2020 by davinche 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kurt_hectic Posted May 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 28, 2020 Man, they made a wheel exactly via my requests, here on the forum Kudos for them, good for me and just can't wait to get V11 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post B08AH Posted May 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 28, 2020 45 minutes ago, kurt_hectic said: Man, they made a wheel exactly via my requests, here on the forum That was you who requested 27kg? 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeRide Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 2 hours ago, B08AH said: That was you who requested 27kg? you have to admit he did pretty good otherwise 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coco66 Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 3 hours ago, FreeRide said: you have to admit he did pretty good otherwise Yeah, but it's always the small details that screw it up... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Unventor Posted May 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 28, 2020 (edited) 10 hours ago, B08AH said: That was you who requested 27kg? I asked for 30kg but they counted with 25kg so I said 27kg they went...fine done... With the next few days of weather forecast it really would have been nice to have had a V11 to play around with. Sadly my order is far back in queue....1k+ pre-orders confront of me. If in luck it might arrive at my birthday. Ohh no now I turned into yet another moaner. Just because the sun is out. 😋 Edited May 28, 2020 by Unventor 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeRide Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 2 hours ago, Unventor said: I asked for 30kg but they counted with 25kg so I said 27kg they went...fine done... .... Good job, we all have to compromise. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtlasP Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 2 hours ago, Unventor said: 1k+ pre-orders confront of me. *double-take* Wait, what? That's crazy. Can I ask where you got that number? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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