Marty Backe Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 1 hour ago, Brandin J. Mercer said: I'ts honestly going to be hard to choose between the Inmotion and Kingsong. Inmotion has polish, Kingsong has style.. and dat trolly handle!!! Why do you have to choose one or the other 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meepmeepmayer Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 Wow, manufacturer drama intensifying! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patton250 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 Where is the info on the new KS? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meepmeepmayer Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 Just now, Patton250 said: Where is the info on the new KS? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mike_bike_kite Posted April 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 8, 2020 I don't know why but I find it a little ironic hearing Chinese companies argue about copyright 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patton250 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 9 minutes ago, meepmeepmayer said: Thanks man. That think looks sick. 9 minutes ago, mike_bike_kite said: I don't know why but I find it a little ironic hearing Chinese companies argue about copyright No doubt right. Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xorbe Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 Lol, the drama. Complaining that the boss of KS isn't an engineer is cringey. Tempest in a teapot. Pass that popcorn! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heyzeus Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 22 minutes ago, UniVehje said: I guess we'll have to see what the internals of the inmotion wheel are like, but from the current looks of it they take two different approaches to suspension so I'm not sure what they stole. From the looks of it the king songwheel looks like it would be more susceptible to serious damage from a bad fall. That unprotected linkage looks like it could really get messed up while tumbling around, but I suppose a mountain bike can get f***** up in a bad fall too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heyzeus Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 On 4/3/2020 at 5:10 AM, WaveCut said: Does anyone else think that kickstand should have a secondary latch to be on the safe side I could easily see the notch wearing down over time and the kickstand getting loose as a result over time until one day it comes down while riding Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrelwood Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 Just now, Heyzeus said: Does anyone else think that kickstand should have a secondary latch to be on the safe side I could easily see the notch wearing down over time and the kickstand getting loose as a result over time until one day it comes down while riding On that 3D render, the stand seems to be held up by both a nudge on the mudflap as well as the grooves on the attachment to the wheel body. Whether these will be enough even after a year or two remains to be seen. I wouldn't be surprised if a few riders take the whole stand off anyway. To me it doesn't look as classy as the rest of the wheel. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Wood Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 1 minute ago, Heyzeus said: Does anyone else think that kickstand should have a secondary latch to be on the safe side I could easily see the notch wearing down over time and the kickstand getting loose as a result over time until one day it comes down while riding it's a very minor thing to complain about don't you think? id imagine most would remove it anyway but if you want it on, it wouldn't be hard to diy it yourself, although im sure they'll of tested it thousands of times to make sure it works just fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
null Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, mike_bike_kite said: I don't know why but I find it a little ironic hearing Chinese companies argue about copyright "First you copy wrong, then you copyright" as the saying go.. Anyhow, while I get Inmotion would feel KS stole some of their thunder, it's not like "suspensions on a EUC" was a novel idea they could hold as exclusive. People have been asking for it for a long time. The very first day my brother saw my EUC he said it should have suspensions, same for my dad. As for tech the systems dont even look to be the same layout.. Edit: It is Gotway boss who is taking to occasion to rant on KS because of some 5 year old "hiring our engineer" feud. Edited April 8, 2020 by null 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phong Vu Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 9 minutes ago, Heyzeus said: Does anyone else think that kickstand should have a secondary latch to be on the safe side I could easily see the notch wearing down over time and the kickstand getting loose as a result over time until one day it comes down while riding 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceCLin Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 6 minutes ago, Heyzeus said: Does anyone else think that kickstand should have a secondary latch to be on the safe side I could easily see the notch wearing down over time and the kickstand getting loose as a result over time until one day it comes down while riding I looks to me in addition to the notch on the mudguard, there are also grooves on the hinge pieces. Though I guess they can also wear out over time. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_bike_kite Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 9 minutes ago, Heyzeus said: Does anyone else think that kickstand should have a secondary latch to be on the safe side I think the V11 is quite an elegant looking wheel. but I'd of preferred something more rugged and minimalist for the stand like a more rugged and squared off mudguard. If I was commuting by wheel (and didn't have to carry it up stairs etc) then I'd be tempted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Backe Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 15 minutes ago, Phong Vu said: If that's really a latch on the mudguard, does that mean the mudguard is rigid? Really bad news in a fall. Same with those "little" flaps holding the pivoting stand. Those could snap off during the first fall. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heyzeus Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 32 minutes ago, mrelwood said: On that 3D render, the stand seems to be held up by both a nudge on the mudflap as well as the grooves on the attachment to the wheel body. Whether these will be enough even after a year or two remains to be seen. I wouldn't be surprised if a few riders take the whole stand off anyway. To me it doesn't look as classy as the rest of the wheel. I guess it does have some secondary notches then, Glad it's not just that one tiny one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ..... Posted April 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 8, 2020 1 hour ago, Marty Backe said: If that's really a latch on the mudguard, does that mean the mudguard is rigid? Really bad news in a fall. Same with those "little" flaps holding the pivoting stand. Those could snap off during the first fall. I'm willing to let someone send me one, to roll it down the mountain and check its durability. Or, I'll wait in hopes of seeing someone else suffer and do it to their own. Ride reports and testing are usually easier to talk people into doing, than purposely checking for how bad it explodes on impact. Tis funny, sometimes I catch myself hoping for someone else's loss. Still, i DID offer to test for them, but alas, its not a loss i want to take on myself. I really am looking forward to seeing ALL of these new designs, be abused horribly. I KNOW i'll abuse them, and a broken wheel after the first wild 10 minute trail ride, isnt worth much. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Stern Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 9 hours ago, BruceCLin said: I looks to me in addition to the notch on the mudguard, there are also grooves on the hinge pieces. Though I guess they can also wear out over time. It almost certain has a ramp so that the ends of the U bend out and then spring back in when the reach the retaining groove. If properly engineered (right geometry, right material, right stand metal spring constant) this should wear out quickly. It's also easy to test such a mechanism over thousands of cycles during development to ensure it lasts. The could have screwed up, but fundamentally, I see nothing wrong with this mechanism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rywokast Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 9 hours ago, Phong Vu said: so what if it did? not like its a piece of fabric thats gonna jam itself up inside of the body.. you wouldnt even notice if it fell down 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mrelwood Posted April 9, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 9, 2020 Mesmerized by the epic jump video like many others, but as the hastily positioned slow motion editing made it unclear how the suspension behaves, I tried to edit the clip a bit. Perhaps interesting to some of you as well: 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rywokast Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 4 minutes ago, mrelwood said: Mesmerized by the epic jump video like many others, but as the hastily positioned slow motion editing made it unclear how the suspension behaves, I tried to edit the clip a bit. Perhaps interesting to some of you as well holeh sheet... that was insane lol, i absolutely believe their claims about the travel.... i know theyre just doing it to showcase it on a prototype but i would definitely never be doing anything like that on a wheel lol, i feel so bad for the tire haha.. people are going to see these videos and i forsee a lot of blown tubes and dented rims in the near future lol, i mean that guy is probably 160 lbs at best Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mrelwood Posted April 9, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Rywokast said: people are going to see these videos and i forsee a lot of blown tubes and dented rims in the near future lol Riding down a 3 feet drop takes guts that few people have, especially on a new $2000 wheel, so I wouldn’t worry too much... 😉 The video @Nic posted as well is an incredibly badly missed opportunity. The rider rides on asphalt and gravel, that’s it. I have no idea why they would publish a video like that on the world’s first announced EUC with suspension. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaveCut Posted April 9, 2020 Author Share Posted April 9, 2020 13 minutes ago, Nic said: Plz dont use this tyre 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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