RoCan Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 Hi all, just been for my first ride on my new V11. Loving the suspension but think it needs tweaking. I have seen it mentioned in a few you tube videos that the V11 has a pogo effect and I see what they mean. When going over harsher rocks/roots it springs back and knocks the top which in turn makes my feet leave the foot plates and move forward an inch. Is this normal behaviour for this type of suspension system or will adjusting the negative chamber improve this? And if so, should I increase or decrease the negative chamber? I have Clark pads on the way which will help this but if I can fine tune it so much the better. Any tips greatly appreciated 😬 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post UniVehje Posted May 12, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 12, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, RoCan said: Hi all, just been for my first ride on my new V11. Loving the suspension but think it needs tweaking. I have seen it mentioned in a few you tube videos that the V11 has a pogo effect and I see what they mean. When going over harsher rocks/roots it springs back and knocks the top which in turn makes my feet leave the foot plates and move forward an inch. Is this normal behaviour for this type of suspension system or will adjusting the negative chamber improve this? And if so, should I increase or decrease the negative chamber? I have Clark pads on the way which will help this but if I can fine tune it so much the better. Any tips greatly appreciated 😬 How much do you weigh? For a 75-80 kg rider I would suggest starting with 100 PSI on the lower chamber and 50 PSI on upper chamber. It is the upper chamber that mostly works on reducing the effect you described. Try setting the lower chamber so that when you stand still on the wheel, the suspension will sag 3.5-4 cm and then put half of the lower chamber number on the upper chamber. If you put more on the upper, you can reduce the rebound effect even more, but the ride might get stiffer. I got similar effect when testing with empty upper chamber. Edited May 12, 2021 by UniVehje 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn Bjerke Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 finetuning it: There should be no pogo stick effect 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoCan Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 7 hours ago, UniVehje said: How much do you weigh? For a 75-80 kg rider I would suggest starting with 100 PSI on the lower chamber and 50 PSI on upper chamber. It is the upper chamber that mostly works on reducing the effect you described. Try setting the lower chamber so that when you stand still on the wheel, the suspension will sag 3.5-4 cm and then put half of the lower chamber number on the upper chamber. If you put more on the upper, you can reduce the rebound effect even more, but the ride might get stiffer. I got similar effect when testing with empty upper chamber. About 220lbs with gear. I followed the guidance with the lower chamber at 150psi. I’ll try 75 in the upper then. Thanks for the tip! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoCan Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 3 hours ago, Finn Bjerke said: finetuning it: There should be no pogo stick effect That’s good to hear. It felt a bit dangerous tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrelwood Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 17 hours ago, RoCan said: About 220lbs with gear. I followed the guidance with the lower chamber at 150psi. I’ll try 75 in the upper then. Thanks for the tip! The official guide does have slightly high pressures. It could work for you with 70-75psi on top, but if you want a more plush ride, I’d try 140psi at the bottom and 50psi on top. I weigh 235-240 with gear, and I like a plush ride, so I settled on 150/40psi.  For me there is no pogo stick even at 0psi on top, as long as I set the bottom pressure accordingly. The amount of sag is the important number to check. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 Been for a 41 mile ride today and 9%battery remains, I'm 200lbs and was doing about 20mph mostly terrain was tow path and wet mud/gravel this is where I wasn't happy so question is what off road tyre will fit the v11 and keeping a good width tyre ,, link if possible please peeps,, I don't like when tyre slips in wet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Stern Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 2 hours ago, stephen said: Been for a 41 mile ride today and 9%battery remains, I'm 200lbs You're talking nonsense. You're 14 stone! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 2 hours ago, Jon Stern said: You're talking nonsense. You're 14 stone! ? What do you mean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rehab1 Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 3 hours ago, Jon Stern said: You're talking nonsense. You're 14 stone!  1 hour ago, stephen said: ? What do you mean I had to look this up.  14 stone means 196 pounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrelwood Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 8 hours ago, stephen said: what off road tyre will fit the v11 CST C-186 is widely sold in Europe, while the Kenda K262 is a similar tire sold in the US.  You can also search for the Kenda with a phrase “Veteran Sherman off-road tire“. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Stern Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, stephen said: ? What do you mean You're from the UK! How can you not know what I mean? 14 stone 4 lbs to be precise. Edited May 14, 2021 by Jon Stern Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, mrelwood said: CST C-186 is widely sold in Europe, while the Kenda K262 is a similar tire sold in the US.  You can also search for the Kenda with a phrase “Veteran Sherman off-road tire“. Ooo thx I didn't know the sherman tyre would fit,, thanks for the info  26 minutes ago, Jon Stern said: You're from the UK! How can you not know what I mean? 14 stone 4 lbs to be precise.  Lol yeah I always say Stone and pounds but thought I'd make it easier for everyone to understand,,,I thought your initial remark was I didn't look 14 stone OR I looked more than that Edited May 14, 2021 by stephen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unventor Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 (edited) On 5/13/2021 at 7:01 PM, stephen said: Been for a 41 mile ride today and 9%battery remains, I'm 200lbs and was doing about 20mph mostly terrain was tow path and wet mud/gravel this is where I wasn't happy so question is what off road tyre will fit the v11 and keeping a good width tyre ,, link if possible please peeps,, I don't like when tyre slips in wet I know what you mean, I don't like tire slipping in wet conditions either. But changing to a different tire that per forms better in wet and muddy conditions means choosing a tire that do not have a solid center line like the stock tire do. But the trade of that comes with that leaves you with harder to turn wheel. You will see more of this discussed when @mrelwoodgave me tips for my winter tire. It is especially the low speed shoulder turning without leaning the wheel to the side and somewhat the carving sensation that takes a hit with a knobby/off-road/winter thread tire. Edited May 15, 2021 by Unventor 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 14 hours ago, mrelwood said: CST C-186 is widely sold in Europe, while the Kenda K262 is a similar tire sold in the US.  You can also search for the Kenda with a phrase “Veteran Sherman off-road tire“. Hi @mrelwood is this the correct tyre https://www.mytyres.co.uk/product/R-268183?Country=UK&ID=sea_rd_uk_Froogle_Shopping&ef_id=CjwKCAjwv_iEBhASEiwARoemvClhhWF_iZPS4XFtqxfcBwgyExFsj938MG43LIWR_KbucOyos2pE9hoC7qoQAvD_BwE:G:s&s_kwcid=AL!432!3!433123687600!!!u!295468871519!&gclid=CjwKCAjwv_iEBhASEiwARoemvClhhWF_iZPS4XFtqxfcBwgyExFsj938MG43LIWR_KbucOyos2pE9hoC7qoQAvD_BwE 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrelwood Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 12 hours ago, stephen said: Hi @mrelwood is this the correct tyre https://www.mytyres.co.uk/product/R-268183?Country=UK&ID=sea_rd_uk_Froogle_Shopping&ef_id=CjwKCAjwv_iEBhASEiwARoemvClhhWF_iZPS4XFtqxfcBwgyExFsj938MG43LIWR_KbucOyos2pE9hoC7qoQAvD_BwE:G:s&s_kwcid=AL!432!3!433123687600!!!u!295468871519!&gclid=CjwKCAjwv_iEBhASEiwARoemvClhhWF_iZPS4XFtqxfcBwgyExFsj938MG43LIWR_KbucOyos2pE9hoC7qoQAvD_BwE Yes! And a great price as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 3 hours ago, mrelwood said: Yes! And a great price as well. Thanks bought it 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmsjms Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 On 5/10/2021 at 6:20 AM, WaveCut said: Do you have any sort of extra pass or its clean? Sorry, I didn't understand your comment. "Extra pass" or "clean" regarding violent shaking I described? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmsjms Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 Is anyone getting a noise that sounds like a pieces of paper stuck somewhere and rubbing on the wheel? If you stick your finger on the plastic fan-blades of a fan while it is spinning -- that's how it sounds: a soft click-click-click-click... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wise Rides Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 You probably have a leaf or twig stuck in you wheel well.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Wise Rides Posted May 22, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 22, 2021 I did some incredible trail riding today. Single-track with lots of hills, drops, dips, roots and rocks. Very technical, went down a few times. I'm not sure how the mountain bikes get over some of the stuff I saw. Had to walk sections so i didn't break the wheel or myself! I don't think it would be possible to do trails like this without suspension. The wheel started acting up after one of the falls, trying to tilt forward or back for no reason,  but I was able to turn it off, wait a few minutes, and turn it on and recalibrate, and it was fine. Have to be careful with the crashes, the sensors on the control board can get messed up if jard too much.  I found the limits of the v11. It can do some narly trail riding but its much better on hard pack surfaces. However, the suspension with foot pegs and side pads make the wheel a beast, on and off road. So much torque, really amazing wheel! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mrelwood Posted May 22, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 22, 2021 3 hours ago, Wise Rides said: I did some incredible trail riding today. Those are one of the greatest moments, challenging and surpassing one’s skills! I love those!  If you want to take it to the next level, replace the original tire with a more off-roady one. You won’t believe the confidence it gives! I just installed a mc tire Heidenau K66. I wasn’t planning on making a video review, but the tire surprised me enough to start shooting video clips right away!  If you don’t want to wait for me to edit the video for the conclusion... Just buy the tire. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGiroquoi Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 (edited) 7 hours ago, mrelwood said: Those are one of the greatest moments, challenging and surpassing one’s skills! I love those!  If you want to take it to the next level, replace the original tire with a more off-roady one. You won’t believe the confidence it gives! I just installed a mc tire Heidenau K66. I wasn’t planning on making a video review, but the tire surprised me enough to start shooting video clips right away!  If you don’t want to wait for me to edit the video for the conclusion... Just buy the tire. Does it fits without mods to either the tire or shell? Because ewheel only has one offroad tire for it, and it require some shaving, which I would prefer not to do if I can find a proper tire. Ive seen those online. Which size should I buy ? https://fortnine.ca/fr/heidenau-k66-4-season-scooter-tire If you can give me more info! Thanks! Edited May 22, 2021 by Eric plam 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unventor Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 3 hours ago, Eric plam said: Does it fits without mods to either the tire or shell? Because ewheel only has one offroad tire for it, and it require some shaving, which I would prefer not to do if I can find a proper tire. Ive seen those online. Which size should I buy ? https://fortnine.ca/fr/heidenau-k66-4-season-scooter-tire If you can give me more info! Thanks! The size 80/80-14 should fit. @mrelwood fitted a 80/90-14 and it is a tight fit as far I understood him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camenbert Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 Â 4 hours ago, Eric plam said: Ive seen those online. Which size should I buy ? https://fortnine.ca/fr/heidenau-k66-4-season-scooter-tire Heidenau tire catalogue :https://www.heidenautires.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/Heidenau Catalog 2021.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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