EUC World support for Samsung watches

[RockyTop]

On 11/23/2019 at 4:26 PM, Lefteris said:

So based on the poll the Gear S3 will be the 1st to support the euc watchface ?

 

Not for long! The Galaxy is catching up.    

 

[Unventor]

@Seba do you mind sharing how progress is going with a Tizen version of EUC.WORLD is going?

And also if you plan this to be a stand alone App option for Galaxy Watch Active 2 LTE in future? I know this would be battery heavy, but it would be a sweet option as you don't need a phone to accompany you. Phone seems to grow in size in general by every release.

[RockyTop]

4 minutes ago, Unventor said:

And also if you plan this to be a stand alone App option for Galaxy Watch Active 2 LTE in future?

  I would be willing to donate $100 USD for that option. 

[YoshiSkySun]

Hey @Seba. Great app! I have an Active 2 and I cant seem to synchronize the app with the watch. Any help is kindly appreciated. 

[Seba]

7 hours ago, Unventor said:

@Seba do you mind sharing how progress is going with a Tizen version of EUC.WORLD is going?

Sure. I plan to release working beta version for testing next month.

7 hours ago, Unventor said:

And also if you plan this to be a stand alone App option for Galaxy Watch Active 2 LTE in future? I know this would be battery heavy, but it would be a sweet option as you don't need a phone to accompany you. Phone seems to grow in size in general by every release.

I know that standalone app could be a neat option for some users, but this means a lot of work to create app that would effectively be used by very small group of users. At least for now I want to focus on improving EUC World app and euc.world service. It is already a sufficiently labour-intensive and engaging activity. However, I do not rule out the possibility that one day such an application will be developed.

2 hours ago, YoshiSkySun said:

Hey @Seba. Great app! I have an Active 2 and I cant seem to synchronize the app with the watch. Any help is kindly appreciated. 

You just have to wait a while  Samsung support is now being developed.

[EUC Custom Power-Pads]

Maybe this will help some of you who can't decide whether to buy a Samsung Watch just for the EUC World Tizen App.

At least that's what happened to me, because otherwise I'd have to have my smartphone in my hand all the time anyway, when the watch can't do anything more than display the EUC World app and the time.

 

[irmatt]

Very excited for this.  Still using WheelLog with the Galaxy watch support until this is released.  Looking forward to wanting to upgrade to EUC World.

[Blank]

What's the current status on the development for Samsung Watches? 

[Seba]

11 minutes ago, Blank said:

What's the current status on the development for Samsung Watches? 

February 2020. 

[EUC Custom Power-Pads]

That's fantastic, only 4 days waiting. 

[Hansolo]

or 33 

[Lefteris]

20 hours ago, Hansolo said:

or 33 

i laughed, i'm sorry, but it was perfect!  

[Han Vo]

Its February!! Yeayyy

[Lefteris]

...that also means he can release the tizen watchface of euc.world at Feb. 28th  ahahhahahaahhahahahaha

[EUC Custom Power-Pads]

1 hour ago, Lefteris said:

...that also means he can release the tizen watchface of euc.world at Feb. 28th  ahahhahahaahhahahahaha

Would be too good to be true. February has 29 days this year. Seba has chosen it very cleverly. 

[Pierre]

Samsung Galaxy Watch Active2

[travsformation]

39 minutes ago, Pierre said:

Samsung Galaxy Watch Active2

Did you vote in the poll as well?

[danyx]

On 11/18/2019 at 3:47 PM, travsformation said:

Yeah, I agree!

And another way of voting for Tizen EUC World support is with your dollars

Since @Seba is a bit shy about asking for donations, I'll just leave the link here, and you can make a donation specifically for Tizen development 

Sorry but the link presented here to support the Tizen development is dead.
Do somebody have a working link please? I would like to support @Saba's great work
Thank you guys very much.

[Seba]

1 hour ago, danyx said:

Sorry but the link presented here to support the Tizen development is dead.
Do somebody have a working link please? I would like to support @Saba's great work
Thank you guys very much.

I'm currently switching moving away from PayPal, as their relatively high costs and unfavourable exchange rates eats significant part of each donation. Within next days integration with DotPay payment agent will be finished and you'll be able to support EUC World project. Thanks in advance 

[Marty Backe]

6 hours ago, Seba said:

I'm currently switching moving away from PayPal, as their relatively high costs and unfavourable exchange rates eats significant part of each donation. Within next days integration with DotPay payment agent will be finished and you'll be able to support EUC World project. Thanks in advance 

I've never heard of DotPay. A quick search indicates that it's a Polish system. Although PayPal costs may be higher, isn't it better to use a near universal payment system than one where the vast majority of the planet is ignorant of?

I guess you'll have objective data soon enough to know if donations increase or decrease.

[Han Vo]

Venmo?

[Seba]

35 minutes ago, Marty Backe said:

I've never heard of DotPay. A quick search indicates that it's a Polish system. Although PayPal costs may be higher, isn't it better to use a near universal payment system than one where the vast majority of the planet is ignorant of?

DotPay may not be as well-known company as PayPal, but it is one of many national, European payment operators. It's one of first online payment agents in Poland, offers the same level of security as PayPal, meets the same standards, but is way cheaper, provides more integration options and has way better support.

This is similar to the situation with mobile operators - do you remember our conversation about cellular operators and data plan costs/limitations? Just like you don't recognize DotPay, I bet you never heard of mobile operator called Plus GSM. Here in Poland, it's largest GSM operator that currently offers 4G LTE+ data plan with limit of 60 GB per month when outside of LTE coverage and without limit when within LTE coverage for about $13 (50 PLN) a month. 

Conclusion is simple - being recognized worldwide doesn't automatically means being the best  Often it's opposite - such companies take advantage of their dominant position at the expense of their customers.

41 minutes ago, Marty Backe said:

I guess you'll have objective data soon enough to know if donations increase or decrease.

I don't think that any decrease in donations will be caused by using DotPay services instead of PayPal. If one wants to support EUC World, he will make a donation regardless of the operator. But if one just wants to use EUC World without wanting to give a dime, no operator will change it.

[EUC Custom Power-Pads]

12 minutes ago, Seba said:

But if one just wants to use EUC World without wanting to give a dime, no operator will change it.

That's how I see it too. 

[Marty Backe]

3 hours ago, Seba said:

DotPay may not be as well-known company as PayPal, but it is one of many national, European payment operators. It's one of first online payment agents in Poland, offers the same level of security as PayPal, meets the same standards, but is way cheaper, provides more integration options and has way better support.

This is similar to the situation with mobile operators - do you remember our conversation about cellular operators and data plan costs/limitations? Just like you don't recognize DotPay, I bet you never heard of mobile operator called Plus GSM. Here in Poland, it's largest GSM operator that currently offers 4G LTE+ data plan with limit of 60 GB per month when outside of LTE coverage and without limit when within LTE coverage for about $13 (50 PLN) a month. 

Conclusion is simple - being recognized worldwide doesn't automatically means being the best  Often it's opposite - such companies take advantage of their dominant position at the expense of their customers.

I don't think that any decrease in donations will be caused by using DotPay services instead of PayPal. If one wants to support EUC World, he will make a donation regardless of the operator. But if one just wants to use EUC World without wanting to give a dime, no operator will change it.

Actually I've been think of promoting your app a bit more. I haven't looked into the details, but will DotPay be the only means of supporting you. I can pretty much guarantee the American market won't support it (DotPay) but I have zero insight into whether that matters.

[Seba]

11 hours ago, Marty Backe said:

Actually I've been think of promoting your app a bit more. I haven't looked into the details, but will DotPay be the only means of supporting you. I can pretty much guarantee the American market won't support it (DotPay) but I have zero insight into whether that matters.

Marty, I can understand that as an American company, PayPal is most recognized and trusted in US. But it's a classic chain of trust. I chose DotPay because for me this is a trustworthy, reliable and proven partner. If someone wants to support EUC World it's most probably because he trust me. I choose DotPay as a payment operator because I'm sure it is in no way less trustworthy than PayPal. For many years it has been handling online payments in Central Europe. DotPay is officially recognized by Polish Financial Supervision Authority (Polish equivalent of American SEC). It's cooperating with Google, Apple, Visa and Mastercard. It's fully regulated by EU law and have to comply with the same strict regulations as PayPal.

Company I work for is cooperating with DotPay for years. I have never experienced any problem, nor any of our customers. Rates are good, company works transparently, customer support is great. At the same time I had many problems with PayPal, currently I can't finish dispute with them for almost two months. I don't see it a reliable partner. And being a PayPal most costly (for $2 donation it keeps 16 % on fees and conversion rate) is a least issue here. I could live with this if the rest would work great.

If one doesn't trust company I choose to operate donation payments sent to me, shouln't also trust me and should immediately stop using EUC World. It's not a business for me. Over entire last year I put hundreds of hours to make EUC World as best as possible. I invested substantial amounts of my own money into this project - I had to bought dedicated Dell server, bunch of SSD disks to host the database and user files, capable Internet access, domain, certificates, tools, EUC parts, smartwatches, Flic 2 buttons etc. etc. Only thanks to some individual donors and @Jason McNeil from eWheels as the most generous, I was able to cover substantial costs of running and developing EUC World project (app, website, smartwatch apps and some accompanying research projects like charger control etc.). It's thanks to @Jason McNeil who supported adding full King Song support to EUC World. Sad to say, but King Song role was minimal. Jason convinced them to give me some technical details about their protocol, but after all I had to reverse engineer most of it by myself.

I can spare a substantial amounts of my time to develop EUC World - it's my passion and I feel really great seeing that people are happy using EUC World. I can't however invest my money into application that is free for everyone. As I said, it's not a business for me and the only thing I expect is to get costs covered. I'll be fine with it. I hope that community will understand this and continue supporting EUC World, especially that there is increasing demant for iOS version. And I don't think that using DotPay instead of PayPal should be a reason to refuse this support. But of course, it's only my personal point of view.

Edited February 5, 2020 by Seba