Rywokast Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 On 11/14/2019 at 2:59 AM, Patton250 said: Well....... I suppose you are assuming I know what ecodrift and google translate is? Me- “ Can someone please give me an instruction video on how to disassemble this motor and put it back together?” you-“ You just take it apart and put it back together“ me- “um........thanks I guess “ its very easy, same basically as a tire change except when you get to 5 mins in the video, remove the pedal hangars from the old motor and install them on the new motor, then continue with the video putting it back together 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patton250 Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Flyboy10 said: @Patton250 if you still need help, I can make a video of replacing the main board and the motor as I will be doing this next week. I'll probably be using the Russian video as a guide. Brother that would be awesome. I’m mostly looking for how to get the shell open, what wires to unplug, how to plug them back in and any safety considerations. Thank you so much. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rywokast Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 16 minutes ago, Patton250 said: Brother that would be awesome. I’m mostly looking for how to get the shell open, what wires to unplug, how to plug them back in and any safety considerations. Thank you so much. is this going to be the first wheel that youve disassembled? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patton250 Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 6 minutes ago, Rywokast said: is this going to be the first wheel that youve disassembled? Nope. My second. I chanced a tire on my Nik+ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rywokast Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Patton250 said: Nope. My second. I chanced a tire on my Nik+ oh ok, nikola is harder 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patton250 Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 9 minutes ago, Rywokast said: oh ok, nikola is harder I was pretty proud of myself for getting that done but then when I rewired it because I’m colorblind I messed up. Thank God for our friend @Marty Backe for helping me get the wiring right. He saved the day. Also I ruined the inner tube when changing it but I know what I did wrong and I doubt I’ll make that mistake again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rywokast Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 19 minutes ago, Patton250 said: I was pretty proud of myself for getting that done but then when I rewired it because I’m colorblind I messed up. Thank God for our friend @Marty Backe for helping me get the wiring right. He saved the day. Also I ruined the inner tube when changing it but I know what I did wrong and I doubt I’ll make that mistake again. oh damn, well thats good you got it sorted,, for next time im sure youll know just to label the wires but actually for ks wheels you only need to unplug the side LEDs one cable each can only go in one place, and the motor cable, big, obvious, and again only one place it can go.. no possible way to switch wires around on a KS you dont need to unplug batteries or board anything like that.. and yea i ruined my tube on the first tire change i ever did too... naturally, i didnt realise that until i reassembled the whole thing and rode it lol.... on the ten or more since i have never made another mistake its pretty easy after the first time doing it when you know wtf youre doing.. and KS pedal hangers are a cinch you just take out the two screws coming down from the top and separate the top and bottom half 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patton250 Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 7 minutes ago, Rywokast said: oh damn, well thats good you got it sorted,, for next time im sure youll know just to label the wires but actually for ks wheels you only need to unplug the side LEDs one cable each can only go in one place, and the motor cable, big, obvious, and again only one place it can go.. no possible way to switch wires around on a KS you dont need to unplug batteries or board anything like that.. and yea i ruined my tube on the first tire change i ever did too... naturally, i didnt realise that until i reassembled the whole thing and rode it lol.... on the ten or more since i have never made another mistake its pretty easy after the first time doing it when you know wtf youre doing.. and KS pedal hangers are a cinch you just take out the two screws coming down from the top and separate the top and bottom half I think I’ll be able to handle it. My biggest concern is time. I don’t really have much time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rywokast Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Patton250 said: I think I’ll be able to handle it. My biggest concern is time. I don’t really have much time. aah, its tedious for sure give yourself at least a couple hours 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Patton250 Posted November 23, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 23, 2019 Well I just change the motor on my KS18XL. It was pretty easy actually. Much easier than removing the motor from my Nikola Plus. Couple of stupid things like removing the pads damages them pretty good. Also the hardware is so cheap on these things. The screws stripped pretty easy so you’re not going to get many changes with them. Why don’t these wheel companies just charge us a little more per wheel and give us quality hardware? Do they really not expect us to fix tires and repair the things? I just don’t understand. Anyway thanks for everyone’s encouragement and help. I love this forum. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadRunner Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 4 minutes ago, Patton250 said: Well I just change the motor on my KS18XL So you just have to switch the motor, no new control board needed for the new motor @Jason McNeil? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patton250 Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 22 minutes ago, RoadRunner said: So you just have to switch the motor, no new control board needed for the new motor @Jason McNeil? Just a straight change out. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadRunner Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 1 minute ago, Patton250 said: Just a straight change out. Did you go for a test ride already? How is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Patton250 Posted November 24, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 24, 2019 1 minute ago, RoadRunner said: Did you go for a test ride already? How is it? I sure did. Much quicker and a whole bunch quieter. In fact it’s silent. The fastest I brought it up to is 28 mph though. It’s dark here. I’ll try again tomorrow. I’m charging it up now. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonesq Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 12 minutes ago, Patton250 said: I sure did. Much quicker and a whole bunch quieter. In fact it’s silent. The fastest I brought it up to is 28 mph though. It’s dark here. I’ll try again tomorrow. I’m charging it up now. Do you feel like the upgrade is worth the money? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patton250 Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 57 minutes ago, Jonesq said: Do you feel like the upgrade is worth the money? Absolutely. I think it was only $150. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonesq Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 Sweet! I'll be doing the upgrade soon as well so it's reassuring to hear your assessment. KS advertises it as 40% more torque. What percentage increase do you feel on it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rywokast Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 7 hours ago, Patton250 said: Well I just change the motor on my KS18XL. It was pretty easy actually. Much easier than removing the motor from my Nikola Plus. Couple of stupid things like removing the pads damages them pretty good. Also the hardware is so cheap on these things. The screws stripped pretty easy so you’re not going to get many changes with them. Why don’t these wheel companies just charge us a little more per wheel and give us quality hardware? Do they really not expect us to fix tires and repair the things? I just don’t understand. Anyway thanks for everyone’s encouragement and help. I love this forum. nicee, i just finished mine today also but the battery was dead so its on charge now, cant wait to test it tonight.. put on a new tire/tube and pedals while i was at it and cleaned everything inside and out 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EUC Custom Power-Pads Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 8 hours ago, Patton250 said: The screws stripped pretty easy so you’re not going to get many changes with them. Why don’t these wheel companies just charge us a little more per wheel and give us quality hardware? Do they really not expect us to fix tires and repair the things? I just don’t understand. Fully agree, I have exchanged all housing and motor screws for stainless steel Allen screws., 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rywokast Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 7 minutes ago, buell47 said: Fully agree, I have exchanged all housing and motor screws for stainless steel Allen screws., ive always appreciated how little things like that inmotion does best.. quality hardware, proper seals, compartmentalization.. if i was to ever take it apart again i would do that, do you mind if i ask the size of the screws? its already all back together and i would like to order some for a few wheels from ali to have on hand, from my observation KS uses the same size screws across all of their EUCs which makes sense 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post EUC Custom Power-Pads Posted November 24, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 24, 2019 (edited) I have the 16X, not the 18XL. I don't know if that can help you? 16X housing = M3 x 8 (Flanged Button Head) 16X motor = M6 X 16 (Flanged Button Head) Edited November 24, 2019 by buell47 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rywokast Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 17 minutes ago, buell47 said: I have the 16X, not the 18XL. I don't know if that can help you? 16X housing = M3 x 8 (Flanged Button Head) 16X motor = M6 X 16 (Flanged Button Head) thanks very much, i would bet money on them being the same they appear identical to my 16S and 18XL, however both of them lack the flanges on the screw heads for the motor and instead opt for a spiked washer (dont know the name, hate them) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rywokast Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 hmm, either my hearing is just really good or I got an old motor lol but I checked the code.. mine still produces a very loud high pitched noise at all times.. the torque does feel better though, it's no 16" but definitely better than it was especially from a stand still Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EUC Custom Power-Pads Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Rywokast said: however both of them lack the flanges on the screw heads for the motor and instead opt for a spiked washer (dont know the name, hate them) I wasn't sure if the screws were suitable for plastic. I can imagine that when tightening the screws the plastic will be rubbed off and can't tighten enough because of the resistance. So I took these and Loctite medium strong. 24 minutes ago, Rywokast said: hmm, either my hearing is just really good or I got an old motor lol but I checked the code.. mine still produces a very loud high pitched noise at all times.. the torque does feel better though, it's no 16" but definitely better than it was especially from a stand still I was expecting that. Wasn't it the case that the 16X prototype with the new 2200W was even louder at first and only became silent later by changing the firmware? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rywokast Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 34 minutes ago, buell47 said: I wasn't sure if the screws were suitable for plastic. I can imagine that when tightening the screws the plastic will be rubbed off and can't tighten enough because of the resistance. So I took these and Loctite medium strong. I was expecting that. Wasn't it the case that the 16X prototype with the new 2200W was even louder at first and only became silent later by changing the firmware? I'd imagine it would be perfectly fine, after all I believe those spiked things are exclusive to KS wheels, but better safe than sorry.. I have no idea about the 16X, however I never did a firmware update for the new motor which was surprising.. I wonder if they will put one out.. there is nothing available right now to update Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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