Asphalt 98 Posted October 28 EUCO just did an unboxing of the new InMotion V8f. It looks a little bigger, has V10 pedals and built-in side pads. Looking forward to learning more about the internals and specs. I just hope they were able to keep a reasonable weight and weather-resistance, as the V8 has been a very ergonomic commuter wheel. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vince23heat 6 Posted October 29 (edited) Someone on reddit mentioned range and speed around those of a 16S but with a wider tire. A wider tire, higher foot pedals, higher shin contact point, and big pedals might have to replace the 16S Edited October 29 by Vince23heat Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
meepmeepmayer 9,869 Posted October 29 Quote from this thread: 3 hours ago, mrelwood said: Inmotion themselves confirmed on the previous page that the battery capacity will stay the same. But I guess that doesn’t stop a man from dreaming. Looks like it will be 480Wh like the V8. 16S has 840Wh. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
meepmeepmayer 9,869 Posted October 29 Oh wow the tire is bigger (wider)! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RockyTop 1,776 Posted October 29 20 minutes ago, meepmeepmayer said: Quote from this thread: Looks like it will be 480Wh like the V8. 16S has 840Wh. That is a shame. I know that the wheel has a niche market but adding a few batteries to get above 600wh seems like a an obvious needed improvement. After all 840wh is starting to look pretty small. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mono 2,952 Posted October 29 34 minutes ago, meepmeepmayer said: Oh wow the tire is bigger (wider)! compared to the a 1.95" tire of the current V8...I wouldn't quite know whether it is larger than 2.125"...they should have just read out the specs on the tire Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phatmike 134 Posted October 29 20 minutes ago, Mono said: compared to the a 1.95" tire of the current V8...I wouldn't quite know whether it is larger than 2.125"...they should have just read out the specs on the tire My old V8 has a 2.125 tyre Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mono 2,952 Posted October 29 (edited) 5 minutes ago, phatmike said: My old V8 has a 2.125 tyre Mine had too, while my newer V8 has the 1.95" tire that can be seen in the unpacking vid. Edited October 29 by Mono Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phong Vu 36 Posted October 29 37 minutes ago, Mono said: Mine had too, while my newer V8 has the 1.95" tire that can be seen in the unpacking vid. Confirmed, my V8 has Kenda 1.95" tire. Can I ask which 2.125 tyre you guys have for the V8, looking for a bigger tire. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mono 2,952 Posted October 29 (edited) Kenda K924 and I also wore down a Kenda K1039, both 2.125", I can't say that I really love any of these. Edited October 29 by Mono Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Huakin 12 Posted October 29 Both my V8s have 2.125" tires. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vince23heat 6 Posted October 29 (edited) Wider tire relative to the thin 1.95"... so back to square one. Almost forgot a claimed 35 mi range vs a 35 mi range.... Edited October 29 by Vince23heat Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WenInPhilly 13 Posted October 29 8 hours ago, RockyTop said: That is a shame. I know that the wheel has a niche market but adding a few batteries to get above 600wh seems like a an obvious needed improvement. After all 840wh is starting to look pretty small. The battery is slightly bigger than v8 battery. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alcatraz 252 Posted October 30 If it's 84V then either it's 40 cells 18650@3500=525Wh @3400=510Wh 40 cells 21700@5000=750Wh @4800=720Wh 60 cells 18650@3500=788Wh @3400=765Wh Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shad0z 1,277 Posted October 30 Less than 600wh is basically a no go for me in any case. Atleast 600... But like 480, what will that get you? Like 20km? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mono 2,952 Posted October 30 1 hour ago, Shad0z said: Less than 600wh is basically a no go for me in any case. Atleast 600... But like 480, what will that get you? Like 20km? My range distribution records show that using 400Wh (83%) of the 480Wh battery would get my 80kg as far as 20km in 90%, 26km in 50% and 34km in 10% of the trips I made, depending on how hard and fast I was riding. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mono 2,952 Posted October 30 15 hours ago, WenInPhilly said: The battery is slightly bigger than v8 battery. Where did you get this information from? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phong Vu 36 Posted October 30 (edited) 5 hours ago, Shad0z said: Less than 600wh is basically a no go for me in any case. Atleast 600... But like 480, what will that get you? Like 20km? I think 480wh still reasonable for short commute ( 16" wheel are not really mean for long commute I guess) I commutes daily: - 14km (7km each way). - all led and headlight are on. - speed is mostly > 20, 25 km/h and up to 30, 35 every time I can. and my battery is rarely dip under 60% each day. But I will really surprise if V8F don't have bigger battery, consider the case is much bigger than V8. Edited October 30 by Phong Vu Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xorbe 166 Posted October 30 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Phong Vu said: But I will really surprise if V8F don't have bigger battery, consider the case is much bigger than V8. It looks taller, but look at the bottom. It's riding higher. Is the case actually bigger? Hmm, I guess it is slightly egg shaped vs circular. Better video here: https://old.reddit.com/r/ElectricUnicycle/comments/dok2x4/snagged_a_screen_record_of_eucos_reveal_of_the/ Edited October 30 by xorbe Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mono 2,952 Posted October 30 9 minutes ago, Phong Vu said: I think 480wh still reasonable for short commute ( 16" wheel are not really mean for long commute I guess) There is a bunch of 16" wheels with quite large batteries out there. It even seems that 18" wheels have become slightly less popular over the last year-or-so. 9 minutes ago, Phong Vu said: I commutes daily: - 14km (7km each way). - all led and headlight are on. - speed is mostly > 20, 25 km/h and up to 30, 35 every time I can. and my battery is rarely dip under 60% each day. which means a 28km range with 20% battery charge left 9 minutes ago, Phong Vu said: But I will really surprise if V8F don't have bigger battery, consider the case is much bigger than V8. The guys in the vid and myself seem to see a casing very similar to the original one, though elevated by the bigger tire. I'd guess they use pretty much the same shell. Time will tell. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mike_bike_kite 119 Posted October 30 Just watched that video and now want my 10 min 36 seconds back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phong Vu 36 Posted October 30 3 hours ago, Mono said: The guys in the vid and myself seem to see a casing very similar to the original one, though elevated by the bigger tire. I'd guess they use pretty much the same shell. Time will tell. yeah, watch the video again, the case height is not different, but the case width seems to be bigger. Hopefully they can jam more batteries in it or at least remove the plastic battery case like some of the guys here did the mods <== and V8 owner can have the option to buy the new battery pack Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mono 2,952 Posted October 30 Just now, Phong Vu said: yeah, watch the video again, the case height is not different, but the case width seems to be bigger. it's called parallax I kind-of like the battery being packed in the plastic casing. I reckon that it gives an additional layer of protection and it makes switching the battery somewhat more handy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blueblade 203 Posted October 30 10 hours ago, Shad0z said: Less than 600wh is basically a no go for me in any case. Atleast 600... But like 480, what will that get you? Like 20km? Yes, My heavy 230lb/105kg butt gets about 12-13mi (right about 20km) with somewhat hilly terrain. A far cry short of the stated "31mi of total freedom" the marketing material says, My biggest complaint. An extra pound or 2 to increase that by 50% would be well worth it, not to mention if it has extra safety margin for high current draw situations. Also wish it could play music (it has a speaker!) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rywokast 1,483 Posted October 31 with that small of a battery its next to useless.. ill stick to my v5f+ 420 wh as a backup and very short distances wheel as thats an extremely compact super light little wheel can throw it around easily and fit it anywhere... the only way anything is going to replace my 16s as a city wheel is if it can sustain at least 40 kph for most of the battery and has higher pedals.. otherwise the 16s is a fantastic all around city commuter Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites