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My 100v MSX buzzer is too quiet. Has anyone upgraded there's? If so, links from where purchased and any pictures would be nice. The one I currently have is HND-3015A DC3-24v. I think it registers 90dBs. Or could I possibly double up for more oomphf?

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I moved the buzzer on my 84V MSX to underneath the power button in hopes to hear it better. But I damaged the buzzer a bit while doing so, and either the buzzer itself is now less loud or the moving didn’t have a positive effect on the sound level.

I’m as well interested in learning if there is another solution to the issue.

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To maximize the sound level of the buzzer, it must be attached to the shield to make it resonate.

I moved the buzzer of my MS3 and MSX (add of battery) by cutting the support and tights in the top of the shield (next to the trolley). I haven't lost sound power, I hear it a little better, but the gain is not huge.

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It seems to me that the best way to make the buzzer easier to hear is to move it closer to one of the vents. I'm thinking up by the fan if you get a similar sized buzzer. Wouldn't that be right near the front vent holes? I'm sure it could be mounted with some 3M double sided tape and tucked behind the wiring.

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MSX image credit to @eddiemoy

Replacement buzzers that match exactly are available on Amazon - HND-3015A DC3-24v- 2 pack $3.07 and they use about 20 ma of power.

These are a similar size rated at 95 db Goliton 5PC/Lot 95DB Alarm High-Decibel  $6.95 for a 5 pack and they use 30 ma of power. It might be louder if it utilized more current. But otherwise could be the same volume.

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Or you could go with something completely different. This is rated at 100 db but with the same voltage requirements. It's a little larger, but waterproof and might give you the volume you need. Universal 10-24V 100dB Waterproof Back-Up Alarm - $11.49 It's made to serve as a backup alarm for trucks. The bracket might have to be modified to fit correctly, but it definitely looks heavy duty. The size is listed as: 2.4 x 1.7 x 2.7 inches, so I'm not sure if it will fit...

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At the risk of bombarding you with options to the point that you just don't care any more, you could also put something in place that would vibrate instead of making a noise. Now, it's true that since you're riding a moving vehicle over rough pavement at high speed, it's unlikely that a little haptic feedback is going to do the trick, but this might:

Dayton Audio TT25-8 Puck Tactile Transducer Mini Bass Shaker $18.44

This is basically a small speaker that can be put into stereo systems or mounted onto chairs for that 4D experience. The size, 2.8 x 2.8 x 1 inches is thinner and smaller than the Back-up alarm above.

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The only thing I don't know is if the Gotway electronics will have the power output to really make it vibrate to the degree you'll need. But hey, that's what Amazon's return policy is for.

Whatever you do, it's worth the effort to make sure you're notified prior to any motor cut out. Ride safe.

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There was a post either on the forums or on facebook (can't seem to find it) where a rider spliced in a second buzzer to place on the opposite side (might've also re-positioned the buzzer atop the batteries as well). They claimed it was a significant improvement.

Either way, from my knowledge of acoustics and live sound technique, sound outdoors is heavily directional and influenced by air/wind, so the optimal location for the buzzers is as high as possible, and in front, aimed at your ears. But even doing all this, it doesn't hold a candle to setting up custom alarms in wheellog with your phone connected to a bluetooth speaker.

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Maybe instead of making the buzzer louder (which in the city at 40km/h+ speeds with full face helmet will not help much due to the wind noise) is to use Wheellog + Pebble and set the vibration alarm for 45 km/h and 120A current? I use such setup on daily basis and it works great.

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On 10/18/2019 at 8:13 PM, houseofjob said:

There was a post either on the forums or on facebook (can't seem to find it) where a rider spliced in a second buzzer to place on the opposite side (might've also re-positioned the buzzer atop the batteries as well). They claimed it was a significant improvement.

I did that. I simply added a second buzzer (connected on the same wire, Y).
The result is quite good, I hear the bip also at the max speed of my ACM2. The only problem is to find a buzzer with the same impedance, because with some of the buzzers that I tested, the global sound was lower than with the single original buzzer.

 

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Thanks guys. I might just double up for now. Has anyone modded the head light to make it brighter? Or the side lights?

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5 minutes ago, Flyboy10 said:

Has anyone modded the head light to make it brighter? Or the side lights?

I modified the headlight mainly to achieve a wider beam of light, since I couldn’t see a deer before it jumped right in front of me from complete darkness. I replaced the LED and was able to position it in the lens to get I what I wanted.

The headlight has since suffered a bit so I’m replacing both the LED and the lens with ones from a similiar looking bicycle light I was able to find for $15.

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On 10/21/2019 at 7:47 AM, Flyboy10 said:

Thanks guys. I might just double up for now. Has anyone modded the head light to make it brighter? Or the side lights?

I preferred to add an external light. This one (5 Volt) is powered by the USB port of the wheel and is mounted with Velcro, for quick removal.

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( ... but I had to design a support, gopro style, and print it in 3D...)

 

 

 

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Be careful with that. I know a guy who has burned his motherboard by charging his phone. Apparently it drawed too much current. Could happen with usb light as it takes quite a lot of juice.

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8 hours ago, Matthieu Thegrey said:

Be careful with that. I know a guy who has burned his motherboard by charging his phone. Apparently it drawed too much current. Could happen with usb light as it takes quite a lot of juice.

I had heard of such cases, but I've already used it all the past winter without any problems, so I think it may depend (as usual) on some problem of a specific (and unlucky) motherboard...

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