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Today traveled to work in heavy rain till now no issues.

Does any one ride in heavy rain? Is it safe to do that without extra preparation? Could it survive deep bogs?

Winter is coming  :) 

P.S. I have second batch ks 16x.

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If your 16X is built the same way as mine, I wouldn't drive it in the rain. I wouldn't drive if only the roads were wet and there was splashing water. I took mine apart and saw enough to make up my mind. 1st or 2nd batch plays absolutely no role. 

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I wouldn't ride any of my wheels in the rain tbh, if you have a choice and don't need to i wouldn't, that's just my opinion ,, I'd rather be safe than sorry 😊

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I'm often driving my KS18L in heavy rain and no issue at all for now year and half. Also dismounted it many times and it seems well protected from rain. The only think I'm keeping in mind is to always let it dry in vertical position.

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I just got caught about a mile from home in a heavy rainstorm. When I got home, the wheel started turning itself on. Can't turn it off. Bluetooth connection is intermittent, headlight and LEDs are flickering.

It's my first wheel, and I should have been more conservative, but I have a hunch I just toasted my first wheel with < 100 miles on it. Started commuting with it on Monday after a month of building comfort, and looks like I get 1 week out of it for that purpose.

Sigh...

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14 hours ago, BleepBloopBlop said:

I've been riding my 16X rain or shine for the past 1350 miles with no issues. I wouldn't ride the wheel through deep puddles but besides that go for it. The controller has a conformal coating and all the wiring has nice connectors. I don't see an issue with winter riding on these. I live in Portland Oregon so I'll definitely be putting the wheel to the wet test this winter.

 

-Justin

I have also been riding my 16x rain or shine just north of BleepBloopBlop in Seattle. 

Edited by prasket

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9 hours ago, bonefish said:

I just got caught about a mile from home in a heavy rainstorm. When I got home, the wheel started turning itself on. Can't turn it off. Bluetooth connection is intermittent, headlight and LEDs are flickering. [...] 

Hi bonefish, 

I had a pretty similar experience two weeks ago. Just waiting solved it for me.

I had to go home early that day to catch my train to Oktoberfest :D, but I was caught by heavy rain as well, plus additional strong headwind for a distance of about 7 km. 

When I arrived, I stopped for several seconds, standing still with one foot on the pedal. In this moment the wheel turned off with a "beep" :blink1:.  I was worried, of course, so I tried to turn it on again (should have been waited instead). 

The wheel turned on once, but behaved as it would have been charged: No balancing, lights turn on/off in darker/lighter conditions, possible to connect with App...  BUT, it wasn't possible to turn it off again, not by pressing the power button nor by using the App. Out of curiosity I connected it to the Charger for some minutes which worked as well. But it still wasn't possible to turn it off.

I had to let the wheel in that condition at home, because I had to leave urgently.  When I returned 24 hours later, the wheel was standing at it's place balancing, as if nothing had happened before. Turn on/off and everything else worked as usual. B)

My suspect for all this behavior is the sensor on/off power switch, which possibly got wet during the rain showers? I've done about 100 km since then, with no further issues... 

Regards, Borg

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Borg — you seem to be right! 

After we both had a night’s rest, the wheel is powering on and seems to be operating normally. 

I think I’ll take shelter next time I find myself in similar conditions.

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It's probably a good idea to disconnect the battery on a wheel exposed to water that's been behaving erratically- first, if there's water in the control board area, there's more risk of corrosion if the power is still active while it's drying out. Second, there is a real (probably low, but) risk of fire should the water short the wrong bits on the board or connectors- possibly at night, while you're sleeping. Not a great situation, if you can avoid it.

 

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I will share this much. It might be for different reason. I don't know at this point. But My KS16X is in for service (investigation) after riding in very light rain. 

I don't know all details yet, not the result of the investigation. But I have ridden my V8 and KS18L in much much heavier rain without issues. 

Nor did there exit water from the wheel 30 min after I stopped riding but I got some very oddly behavior from the wheel. I promised @Marty Backe more details once I have facts. And I will keep that promise. For now I am still waiting for facts. I am letting my Dealer and KS work this out rather than having my rookie skills of EUC troubleshooting be the judge here. That is also why I didn't open the wheel prior shipping it to dealer. 

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8 minutes ago, bonefish said:

Any guides to disconnecting the battery, for future reference?

KS released a disassemble video....and assemble video too...

 

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1 hour ago, tessa25 said:

How much of that is necessary to replace a tire?

Sidecover on both side, disconnect battery both sides, disconnect motor and 1 more tiny cable. 

Lift of buttom half of led strip on both sides. Remove 5 bolts on both sides. Carefully slide out motor (make sure motor and the tiny cable don't get damage, might be Hall sensor cable) 

... BUT please double check this. I might have forgotten 1 or 2 things. @Duf has a video of it. 

Compared to other wheels it should not be hard or complex to do. 

Edited by Unventor

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1 hour ago, bonefish said:

@Unventor Thanks for that Youtube tutorial -- very helpful

Ehh you are welcome. I found the disassembled and assembling videos are great to have viewed before starting to do anything. As it gives a different perspective on the job at hand. I have asked/given feedback that KS should do this on all wheels. As I would love that for my KS18L... It is fully disassembled down to the tiniest screw waiting for parts still. :sleep1:I lost 5+ weeks already as shipment to my dealer is lost. No new planed shipment incoming... <_<

And my KS16X is sent of for water damage/odd behaviour investigation. Still waiting for and answer on that too. Maybe some news end of this week/start next week. 

So starting to get no-ride grympy 😖🤯😡

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