Popular Post ir_fuel Posted October 9, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Mono said: It seems you were wrong. That happens. Not everybody is keen to show off what a supreme and flawless rider they think they are. I don't find that surprising. There are quite likely many extremely skillful riders without any video in and outside of this forum. Or they may have videos on their Facebook/Instagram/whatever account and you may never get to know about them. Not only that, but, let's be honest, your average "riding on the street or sidewalk" video is just plain boring to watch. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ir_fuel Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 Being a "professional" euc instructor and living in LA, maybe he should put his money where his mouth is and sign up for the EUC games? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Sacristan Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 Yes, very interesting thread. A lot of do's and don'ts and very few of them have to do with riding. Here is a question for you guys. Do you equate posture in normal riding with posture during hill climbing? And which posture would work better for hill climbing; straight, tall posture as in a maximum forward lean Or bent knee posture with a hinged hip? If bent knee with hinged hip then why would this not be advantageous on flat ground? We are exerting force on the front of the pedals either way (on the balls of our feet). One version provides a lower CoG and shocks while the other doesn't. When teaching I prefer to give tools to the person and then encourage them to develop their own style. I teach them to learn on their own. Then maybe one day that person can teach me something too. In the end I would be a bit saddened if I had been working out for the past 5 years and only learned how to do one push-up variation. I would however cut my losses and embrace the new breakthroughs in push-up and learn them despite my narcissistic side telling me that my version is the best. All these new fangled clapping push-ups and one arm push-ups! Who needs them! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Sacristan Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 Here is some entertainment for you guys if you haven't seen it already. So imagine this posture at 50km/h and an 8m/s headwind. Or would you just stand straight and tall and hope for the best? The first hill was 25 degrees. The last hill was 30 degrees. Some might call it a hillock. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ir_fuel Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 6 minutes ago, Mike Sacristan said: In the end I would be a bit saddened if I had been working out for the past 5 years and only learned how to do one push-up variation. I would however cut my losses and embrace the new breakthroughs in push-up and learn them despite my narcissistic side telling me that my version is the best. All these new fangled clapping push-ups and one arm push-ups! Who needs them! Look at motorcycle riding. Everyone that learns it gets taught "the" way of riding a motorcycle. Now look at all the different riding styles in MotoGP. How is that possible if only one is "the best"?! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mono Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 11 minutes ago, Mike Sacristan said: straight, tall posture as in a maximum forward lean I prefer to move the hips forward and bent the knees to get maximum forward "lean". Not really different from going uphills for me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan acoustic-unicyclist Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 15 hours ago, Darrell Wesh said: It’s .... it’s...it’s hideous! 😱😨 Fast AF tho... 15 hours ago, Darrell Wesh said: It’s .... it’s...it’s hideous! 😱😨 Fast AF tho... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D3m0nzz Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 The gate-keeping coming from 3EUC is insane. -"Don't push limits" -"Don't ride in any way that isn't my posture" -"Don't have opinions on riding unless you have ridden before 2015" -"Don't talk in this thread if you aren't videoing yourself" -"Don't fall. Ever." -"Don't take risks" And then he acts like a martyr and tries to start fights when people call him out. I am honestly surprised that the mods have let this thread go on as long as it has. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Lee Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 19 minutes ago, D3m0nzz said: The gate-keeping coming from 3EUC is insane. -"Don't push limits" -"Don't ride in any way that isn't my posture" -"Don't have opinions on riding unless you have ridden before 2015" -"Don't talk in this thread if you aren't videoing yourself" -"Don't fall. Ever." -"Don't take risks" And then he acts like a martyr and tries to start fights when people call him out. I am honestly surprised that the mods have let this thread go on as long as it has. It's entertaining... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ir_fuel Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 Just now, Mark Lee said: It's entertaining... +1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mono Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 3 hours ago, D3m0nzz said: And then he acts like a martyr and tries to start fights when people call him out. I am honestly surprised that the mods have let this thread go on as long as it has. C'mon, all is perfectly civil, just some interesting psychology going on. BTW, I didn't know the term gatekeeping before, always happy to learn! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3euc Posted October 10, 2019 Author Share Posted October 10, 2019 (edited) On 10/9/2019 at 10:34 AM, D3m0nzz said: The gate-keeping coming from 3EUC is insane. -"Don't push limits" -"Don't ride in any way that isn't my posture" -"Don't have opinions on riding unless you have ridden before 2015" -"Don't talk in this thread if you aren't videoing yourself" -"Don't fall. Ever." -"Don't take risks" And then he acts like a martyr and tries to start fights when people call him out. I am honestly surprised that the mods have let this thread go on as long as it has. Pushing limits is the only way to learn, but do it carefully and know where the limits are of both you and your wheel, which will allow you to push those limits more safely. The posture I choose is how EUCs were designed to operate. I think it's the easiest place to begin and for some to continue. However, once the basics are mastered, different styles can develop, which will also work. Anything goes, really, as long as you can stay safe and within the basic parameters of your wheel. Everyone is entitled to an opinion--those who began before and after 2015. Although keep in mind that those who are more experienced may have something useful to offer to those less experienced. If you're making comments about my riding style from my videos, naturally I am curious to see yours. It's a bit more interesting to know something, particularly when that person is making claims of being on another level and someone who takes high risks, which is fantastic, but begs the question--where are videos of this amazing riding? Don't fall without being prepared. I strongly recommend protective gear, especially a full face helmet. It's only a matter of time before you take a fall. Be ready: 3euc.com/gear Take risks knowing the consequences--it might make you think twice. If none of these things were conveyed earlier, then there has been a failure to communicate! Not only did I not say anything remotely resembling a single one of your fake quotes, I didn't even imply any of these things. Splitting the other topic and having it continue wasn't my idea, although the Mods obliged, so I am not sure how I'm the one gatekeeping. I've just tried to share some of my ideas, and respond to posts directed at me, which I thought was the purpose of a forum--a place of discussion. Above are some of my actual thoughts. Edited November 10, 2019 by 3euc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darrell Wesh Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 @3euc what’s the fastest speed you’ve gone and what is normal your cruising speed on roads? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post D3m0nzz Posted October 10, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 10, 2019 OK, here are some real quotes from you: “First correct observation I've read from you.” “EUCs aren't intended to be ridden while crouched--no self-balancing device is, in fact.” “you have developed your own habits and theories that aren't optimal or are plain wrong.” “thinking that pushing on the feet, crouching, or bending the knees to accelerate are correct riding techniques. They are not.” Vs. “anything goes, as long as you can stay safe and know the limits of your wheel.” “I achieve maximum speed, with maximum control, yet maximum safety.” Vs. “I did my envelope pushing years ago. You're still in the stage of going for the thrill of pushing its limits, which is understandable, since you're a relative newbie.” “I never proclaimed I was the best rider in the world.” “My goal here isn't to insult anyone's delicate ego” “If someone engages me, I will try to reply.” (this line is the giveaway) “Beautiful, inspirational words for real newbies to aspire, with appropriate caution.” “Not quite, Sherlock. You aren't reading my posts very carefully” “You might try being more hospitable to your guests--you're the host here, this is your topic, which would have dried up pages ago had I not jumped in.” “ I'm discussing this with a ghost, because I haven't seen a single second of you in motion, while I have 100 videos of me on YouTube. I have no idea what your skill level is or how you ride, or what the basis is for your apparent expertise.” “You may not even own an EUC!” “It's amazing how many talkers keep popping up, but without a single video of their own to show!” I refuse to believe that you are genuinely ignorant of the hostile way you are conducting yourself on the forum. The above quotes are evidence of you gate-keeping, name-calling, and being extremely condescending to other members of the community (people I consider friends), all while directly contradicting yourself. The riding footage that you posted is extremely underwhelming, and depicts you blowing through several stop signs and disobeying traffic laws (also leaning on a post on the sidewalk, showing a low level of confidence in stopping and dismounting), yet you claim to be a "professional" rider operating with "maximum speed, with maximum control, yet maximum safety." Also, your join date is less than a year ago and the majority of your posts are in this thread. On the off chance that you aren't actively trolling, you need to calm down because you are coming off as kind of a dick. That's all I am going to say on the matter. I have already wasted too much of my life formulating this response. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrelwood Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 2 hours ago, 3euc said: The posture I choose is how EUCs were designed to operate. So rich... First EUC was designed somewhere around 10 years ago. I have no idea about it’s power or speed levels, but I think it’s safe to say that it was not at all fast or powerful. Is the riding posture and habits it was designed for the ones you are referring to? On a current wheel that has possibly ten times the power and five times the top speed? Where did you learn which posture and habits the EUC was designed to operate with? And how would an EUC designed for crouching differ from the current ones? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mono Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 3 hours ago, D3m0nzz said: also leaning on a post on the sidewalk, nice find 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shad0z Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 @D3m0nzz i agree 100%, i was about to start making a post like this. But thankfully you did 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EUC Custom Power-Pads Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 Riding techniques: Fight! (Split from Kingsong 16X: pedal dipping thread) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mono Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 On 10/9/2019 at 2:05 AM, 3euc said: Are you interested in how-to videos or just wondering which of these things I do? I would actually be interested to see you idling (AKA as the pendulum). And I am always excited to get useful hints for improving my riding skills, of course. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daley1 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 Seems a lot of blather about riding styles !Each to his own and there is always more than one way to skin a cat.I,m off to practice riding backwards with crouched knees,straightlegs.windmilling arms and hoping not to hit anything cos i cant see "Sxxt"when going backwards. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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