Popular Post M640x Posted October 6, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 6, 2019 (edited) Excellent wheel in my opinion. I bought it and received it Friday of this past week. I unboxed it, connected the batteries, added the fender and trolley and took to the yard soon after. I wanted to give it some time in the grass because of all I've seen about the difference in ride feel just in case I went down. Within 15 mins I "graduated" to the sidewalk and driveway and finally to the street. Went up to the middle school where I go for lots of "skills" practice. Within one hour I felt very comfortable on this wheel. Slow turns, faster turns. Straights, start/stop, etc. I can see me spending lots of time on it. A little background. I'm a relative newbie with a total of 1 month and approx. 150 miles total. I ride every day for at least 15 minutes and a couple hours on the weekends. I made a move over from Onewheels which I still own. I feel that maybe I can add a newbie perspective and someone with a tiny bit of experience. I currently also own an mten3 and KS14S. Overall impressions: Stability: Biggest trait I found. Total stability across the board whether riding straight or turning. Slow, fast, didn't matter. It just wants to stay upright as many people have already stated which is a plus to a relative beginner like me. Reminds me of the Hayabusa I used to own. Function: Everything appears to function as it should with no problems. No hiccups during the last two days. Initial setup: Easy. I had to get the app, register and take the tutorial before the wheel would move. I set a couple app functions that I was concerned about and off I went. Weight: OMG, now I like to lift weights but holy crap this thing is heavy. I found myself grunting more than once while heaving it around. Specs say 24 kg/53 lbs. I say it's more lol. Speed: I did get it up to straightline speeds that I'm comfortable with. Once again, very stable. Accelerates and decelerates slower than my KS14S but duh it's bigger and heavier. Fit and finish: Very well built with no obvious factory flaws that I could find. The little bit of work I did on it to assemble and initial connection of the batteries was very easy. And yeah if you pull a new one out of the box and it won't power up it may very well be because from the factory the batteries are disconnected. Trolley handle isn't robust at all but is plenty functional. Adding air to the tire is a pretty easy process with the rubber "window" to access the air valve. I love the battery and bluetooth gauge on top which can be seen while riding. I added the footpad grip tape which is included. Price: A little pricey but I knew that going into it. Going to sell a couple things to make up the difference. 14S will be going soon. : p Beginner wheel: Yes and no. YES because of the across the board stability whether going straight or turning, slow or fast. As a beginner there are so many things you're doing at the same time one of them being learning how to be stable on the EUC. IMO the added built in stability of the Z10 will definitely help. NO because your first wheel is going to get beat up. This one is too pretty and expensive to beat up. If you get this for your learning wheel pad it up, alot x 2. lol. I haven't fallen on it yet, notice I said yet. I've been into EUC's just over a month and falling is still fresh in my brain and I expect it all the time. Range: Don't know yet but I will post on here when I gather some averages. I weigh 210 lbs so I'm sure it'll be less than advertised. Brake assist: Um yeah, made me pucker the first time it came on. I'd forgotten about the brake assist feature and the first time I tried a hard stop it surprised me. If I remember correctly that feature can be turned off. I don't think I've forgotten anything, if so I'll come back and add it. Thanks for your time. Addition:. I wanted to talk about tire pressure. I've been running 32psi in the tire. Most bumps haven't been that bad. The tramline effect has been minimal. I tried 26psi and thought I was going to dump it continuously because it was so loose. Tramlining was much more noticeable. It's been put back to 32psi. Edited October 8, 2019 by Senior Coffee 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retrovertigo Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 Great write-up and I got really excited seeing your stand as well. Until I went to their website and saw that they don't have an overseas shipping option Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planemo Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 Good to see another owner in our clan Never tried brake assist myself. Not sure I have ever felt the need for it. Rarely tried anything other than 0 or 1 on the ride feel either, 4 just seems like riding with loose axle nuts to me. I'm still trying to find out what 'Posture Sensor Calibration' is as well. Havent wanted to touch it until I do haha. You will likely get on with a far lower tyre pressure than you think. Its a great wheel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M640x Posted October 6, 2019 Author Share Posted October 6, 2019 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Planemo said: Good to see another owner in our clan Never tried brake assist myself. Not sure I have ever felt the need for it. Rarely tried anything other than 0 or 1 on the ride feel either, 4 just seems like riding with loose axle nuts to me. I'm still trying to find out what 'Posture Sensor Calibration' is as well. Havent wanted to touch it until I do haha. You will likely get on with a far lower tyre pressure than you think. Its a great wheel Thanks for the info. I'm 210, what do you think the pressure should be? It seems to ride good at approx. 32 psi I keep the brake assist on. Once I got used to it everything was good. Edited October 6, 2019 by Senior Coffee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darrell Wesh Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 7 hours ago, Senior Coffee said: Brake assist: Um yeah, made me pucker the first time it came on. I'd forgotten about the brake assist feature and the first time I tried a hard stop it surprised me. If I remember correctly that feature can be turned off. At first I didn’t care for it. But the Z is so bad at braking that anything that can help is welcome, so I keep it on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planemo Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 If it feels good to you at 32psi I suggest you stick with it! For me, it felt like I would lose all my fillings inside of 2 miles and made the wheel incredibly twitchy. I run 14 to 15psi at 85kg. Re brake assist...well thats just the thing - I have never felt that the Z lacks braking. Probably just me, I havent ridden anything other than the Z and V5F to compare. It does stop when I want it to though. Maybe I should just give it a go and see. Tbh I am probably just paranoid of overleaning to the rear, just as I am to the front. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darrell Wesh Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Planemo said: Re brake assist...well thats just the thing - I have never felt that the Z lacks braking. Do you ride in traffic? If you’re just cruising along on sidewalks and bike lanes you won’t ever notice this unless you’re going down steep hills. The need to stop when cars stop will exhibit just how poor braking performance is, as will going down steep hills. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M640x Posted October 6, 2019 Author Share Posted October 6, 2019 3 hours ago, Planemo said: If it feels good to you at 32psi I suggest you stick with it! For me, it felt like I would lose all my fillings inside of 2 miles and made the wheel incredibly twitchy. I run 14 to 15psi at 85kg. Re brake assist...well thats just the thing - I have never felt that the Z lacks braking. Probably just me, I havent ridden anything other than the Z and V5F to compare. It does stop when I want it to though. Maybe I should just give it a go and see. Tbh I am probably just paranoid of overleaning to the rear, just as I am to the front. Need to put more miles on it as I'm still getting used to it really. It does feel pretty good at 32 psi. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retrovertigo Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, Planemo said: If it feels good to you at 32psi I suggest you stick with it! For me, it felt like I would lose all my fillings inside of 2 miles and made the wheel incredibly twitchy. I run 14 to 15psi at 85kg. Re brake assist...well thats just the thing - I have never felt that the Z lacks braking. Probably just me, I havent ridden anything other than the Z and V5F to compare. It does stop when I want it to though. Maybe I should just give it a go and see. Tbh I am probably just paranoid of overleaning to the rear, just as I am to the front. The Z10 has to be the most unusual wheel when it comes to tyre pressure! 32psi feels perfect for some, whereas less than half that (15psi) feels perfect for others! No wonder it is taking me an age to find that perfect pressure for me. And I'll fight anybody who says it isn't the sexiest wheel out there Edited October 7, 2019 by Retrovertigo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blank Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 13 hours ago, Retrovertigo said: Great write-up and I got really excited seeing your stand as well. Until I went to their website and saw that they don't have an overseas shipping option The files for that stand can be found on Thingiverse.com, you can probably ask someone to 3d print it for you for a couple of bucks. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planemo Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 8 hours ago, Darrell Wesh said: Do you ride in traffic? If you’re just cruising along on sidewalks and bike lanes you won’t ever notice this unless you’re going down steep hills. The need to stop when cars stop will exhibit just how poor braking performance is, as will going down steep hills. That's a fair point, no I don't. The only argument to that I can think of is that much of my riding is done around people, kids, cyclists, dogs etc which can be unpredictable as we know and yet I haven't even come close to a brown pants moment. Maybe I am just picking my speed and constantly observing my surroundings to deal with that. Can't say I have ever done a super steep hill either. I certainly haven't gone down anything that I don't think I could ride up. Aside from that, I didn't think that the brake assist actually increased braking performance, only that it tilted the plates back to better suit the rear lean of your body. So unless your feet are slipping off the plates under hard braking then I didn't see the benefit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planemo Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 3 hours ago, Retrovertigo said: The Z10 has to be the most unusual wheel when it comes to tyre pressure! 32psi feels perfect for some, whereas less than half that (15psi) feels perfect for others! No wonder it is taking me an age to find that perfect pressure for me. And I'll fight anybody who says it isn't the sexiest wheel out there Yep the tyre pressure is indeed an oddity. I can't think of any other wheel where the preferred user pressure can have such variance. +1 on best looking wheel. Nothing else comes close IMO and is a big reason why I bought it. Totally stupid reason really but there we go. I am a tart when it comes to things like that. The MSX 84v gives far more range, at a higher speed, will ride over just about everything the Z does and with less effort. But Jesus I think it looks shite. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy5225 Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 I like its look, for the exquisite appearance design, and its color in a tone of gray which is low-key. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planemo Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 40 minutes ago, Andy5225 said: I like its look, for the exquisite appearance design, and its color in a tone of gray which is low-key. I imagine that your thoughts were lost in translation, that quote looks like it came straight off a poncey fashion program describing the latest overly-priced bedroom ornament! (but it's still a true stament anyway) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarrettJ Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 On 10/6/2019 at 8:33 AM, Retrovertigo said: Great write-up and I got really excited seeing your stand as well. Until I went to their website and saw that they don't have an overseas shipping option I'm pretty sure Speedy Feet makes the same stand in the UK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retrovertigo Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 11 hours ago, BarrettJ said: I'm pretty sure Speedy Feet makes the same stand in the UK Sadly the one they make doesn't fit the Z10. But I got in touch with the site above and they have quoted me a price with shipping to the U.K But steep price-wise (because of shipping), but otherwise it is finding somebody to print one etc etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 Hi. i have a question about the Ninebot Z10 I'm just after buying. i downloaded the app and entered my email address to activate the Ninebot Z10 but i didn't register it yet. and i haven't tried it yet because i have a concern i need to know about before i use it. when i switch it on and i grab the handle on top of the unit then lean backwards or forwards on the unit to make it move in the chosen direction sometimes it will cut the power to the motor and tilt downwards then sound an alarm and switch off then on again. why does it do this? is this normal or do i need to do something to correct this behavior. I'm concerned if i get on this device it would then tilt back or forward and throw me off. any advice would be appreciated. thanks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blank Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 1 hour ago, Wolf said: Hi. i have a question about the Ninebot Z10 I'm just after buying. i downloaded the app and entered my email address to activate the Ninebot Z10 but i didn't register it yet. and i haven't tried it yet because i have a concern i need to know about before i use it. when i switch it on and i grab the handle on top of the unit then lean backwards or forwards on the unit to make it move in the chosen direction sometimes it will cut the power to the motor and tilt downwards then sound an alarm and switch off then on again. why does it do this? is this normal or do i need to do something to correct this behavior. I'm concerned if i get on this device it would then tilt back or forward and throw me off. any advice would be appreciated. thanks Sounds like the lift sensor is being activated, perhaps you can calibrate it or disable it in the app? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planemo Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 Mine has done it sometimes, especially when I was trying to feel the difference in ride modes using my hand pushing the wheel. You have to semi grip the handle and this was enough to sometimes trigger the cut off switch. Generally though, you should be able to hold the handle and push the wheel back/foward without it activating as it needs a 'grip' or 'lift'. I dont think it can be calibrated, only turned off. Its never cut out on me whilst riding. In fact I find it a pretty safe lift system, not even sure how it works tbh. Capacitive? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M640x Posted October 8, 2019 Author Share Posted October 8, 2019 1 hour ago, Wolf said: Hi. i have a question about the Ninebot Z10 I'm just after buying. i downloaded the app and entered my email address to activate the Ninebot Z10 but i didn't register it yet. and i haven't tried it yet because i have a concern i need to know about before i use it. when i switch it on and i grab the handle on top of the unit then lean backwards or forwards on the unit to make it move in the chosen direction sometimes it will cut the power to the motor and tilt downwards then sound an alarm and switch off then on again. why does it do this? is this normal or do i need to do something to correct this behavior. I'm concerned if i get on this device it would then tilt back or forward and throw me off. any advice would be appreciated. thanks I don't know exactly what's happening. I do know mine wouldn't function until I registered and watched the tutorial on the app. After that I closed the app then reconnected and it started to function correctly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 thanks to all of you for all the feedback. yeah just after i posted this question i just realized that could be the problem. so i tried it again. i switched it on then grabbed the top of the handle without touching it underneath and tried leaning on it in both directions. this time no cut outs and no alarm. and no tilting downwards. like yous said i can only assume it's the wheels cut out lift censor when i pull on the handle to move it in backwards or forwards direction. it must be very sensitive to touch. as yous can see I'm new to this. i just bought the Z10 it's my first EUC. i never tried it yet because of the concerns I've mentioned but hopefully it should be ok now. if yous could give any advice for a newbie it would be appreciated. are they fun to use what does it feel like on them once you've mastered it. again thanks for all your help 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retrovertigo Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 2 hours ago, Wolf said: if yous could give any advice for a newbie it would be appreciated. are they fun to use what does it feel like on them once you've mastered it. again thanks for all your help For me personally, it is amazing fun, and also really relaxing at times. I don't sleep very well so have been doing my practice on the roads at around 4am when it is nice and quiet. And the Z10 is so quiet (no idea how it compares to other wheels) that it feels like I'm just floating around the streets. I think because at the speeds I am doing at the moment, I am not having to put much effort in so it feels great. You know when you are on a bicycle and come to a nice long downhill section where you can relax and just enjoy free wheeling? It's somewhat like that, only it lasts the whole time you are riding Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy5225 Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 On 10/7/2019 at 6:28 PM, Planemo said: I imagine that your thoughts were lost in translation, that quote looks like it came straight off a poncey fashion program describing the latest overly-priced bedroom ornament! (but it's still a true stament anyway) Haha, that's my thought though 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retrovertigo Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 (edited) @Andy5225Oh and I also forgot!.... welcome to the forums Edited October 9, 2019 by Retrovertigo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 (edited) thanks Retrovertigo for the info. i find your comments on the night riding very interesting because that's exactly what i was thinking of doing myself. because there's hardly any traffic about at night at say around 1.00am in the morning nice and quiet. I'll be trying that out hopefully soon. Hi Planemo i hope your well. your analogy is somewhat funny and strange none the less Retrovertigo has a point. like i said previously i never tried theZ10 yet but will soon the next dry day i get. i was imagining it would be like standing on a large beach ball rolling along the road. Edited October 15, 2019 by Wolf just a mistake were i replied and thanked the wrong person when they were reffereing to someone else 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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