Kingsong 16X: pedal dipping (overleaning) video clip

[Darrell Wesh]

1 hour ago, Marty Backe said:

I suspect it's so they can be A-holes to other people, which again is something I can't relate to

But you’re the meanest person on these forums !!!!! 😄

[Marty Backe]

1 hour ago, Planemo said:

That's a bit bloody harsh if I'm honest mate.

It's my perception. I could be wrong, but it's my opinion.

I assume you're one of the 5-percent 

Edited October 17, 2019 by Marty Backe

[Marty Backe]

1 hour ago, photorph said:

 

I'm Marc Malik from Michigan.  Originally from Kashmir...but grew up in Michigan.  Well traveled though and have been to almost every country. 

Have been in this electric vehicle industry for 5 years (esk8s... then onewheel, now EUCs).  Started riding EUCs about 2 years ago and realized they are the best PEVs out there.  Started advocating EUCs and have been slowly converting people to them.  I have a lot of EUCs, missing the monster and then i'll essentially have them all.  Recently started working for eWheels, and now it's a matter of too many wheels and not enough time to ride.  We'll be sending Rob from MI to the LA EUC games (3rd from right, I'm 4th from right) so he'll be hopefully bringing a win back for us.  He rides 30 mph backwards, so hope that counts as something over there.  

@Marty Backe One less anonymous member fo ya

 

 

Nice  I particularly like EUC pictures that include the people riding them. It's great to be able to associate a picture with a name.

[Marty Backe]

1 hour ago, mrelwood said:

Sure, it’s good to keep the options open...

Come on Marty, having a real name as the username hasn’t really prevented such behaviour, now has it? 

Look, I'm human and have tendencies like everyone else. Sometimes I've been tempted to write something less than complimentary (not necessary here, but other places) but I don't because my username is my real name and I would be ashamed to have the association.

How can people deny that the anonymous online culture exacerbates the coarsening of society.

There are some members here which write things that I can't believe they would if their real identities were known. I mean, just look at @Hunka Hunka Burning Love 

[Marty Backe]

2 hours ago, Mono said:

Marty, you have as such nice opinion about 95% of the forum members. How come?

I was speaking to the Internet as a whole, not the Forum. For the Forum I'd go with 90% 

[ir_fuel]

22 minutes ago, Marty Backe said:

Look, I'm human and have tendencies like everyone else. Sometimes I've been tempted to write something less than complimentary (not necessary here, but other places) but I don't because my username is my real name and I would be ashamed to have the association.

How can people deny that the anonymous online culture exacerbates the coarsening of society.

There are some members here which write things that I can't believe they would if their real identities were known. I mean, just look at @Hunka Hunka Burning Love 

I don't know about that.

You should see what people post under certain news articles. You read the most horrible things there, yet usually the comment system is one that you use through your Facebook account, so people are posting there with their real name + a profile picture. Amazing what filth gets written by some people.

[ir_fuel]

3 hours ago, Marty Backe said:

Probably not. But my observation wasn't regarding the posting of illegal activities. The vast majority of people here don't use there real names and I have no idea who they are, what they look like, etc. Is this because they are all posting videos of illegal activities  I doubt it.

So I just don't understand the anonymous online culture as it applies to 95-percent of participants. I suspect it's so they can be A-holes to other people, which again is something I can't relate to.

I use the same nickname for all my accounts, so even if it can be considered "anonymous" it doesn't really take a high level hacker to find out who I am and what my interests are, what I look like and all the rest that can be derived from there. I presume less than 5 minutes on Google should give you all the info. 

 

[SamSuffit]

3 hours ago, Marty Backe said:

So I just don't understand the anonymous online culture as it applies to 95-percent of participants. I suspect it's so they can be A-holes to other people, which again is something I can't relate to.

FU STFU HOW CAN YOU SAY THAT!!!! Just kidding

My name was mainly chosen for the french pun (SamSuffit=GoodEnough phonetically in French). My real name is less amusing.

And you dont always want to share your private life with everybody (i know, strange in facebook age...). Or maybe you want to keep your life in compartments.

[Marty Backe]

1 hour ago, ir_fuel said:

I use the same nickname for all my accounts, so even if it can be considered "anonymous" it doesn't really take a high level hacker to find out who I am and what my interests are, what I look like and all the rest that can be derived from there. I presume less than 5 minutes on Google should give you all the info. 

 

You're right. It did take me a little longer than 5-minutes to find your picture. You look like a happy fellow, but I can see why you prefer staying a bit more private

 

 

[ir_fuel]

1 minute ago, Marty Backe said:

You're right. It did take me a little longer than 5-minutes to find your picture. You look like a happy fellow, but I can see why you prefer staying a bit more private

 

 

Considering I just came back from my dentist appointment to get a tooth fixed (come to think of it ... what else would a dentist fix?  ) I take this as a serious insult.

 

LET THE DOXING BEGIN!

 

 

[Hunka Hunka Burning Love]

2 hours ago, Marty Backe said:

Look, I'm human and have tendencies like everyone else. Sometimes I've been tempted to write something less than complimentary (not necessary here, but other places) but I don't because my username is my real name and I would be ashamed to have the association.

How can people deny that the anonymous online culture exacerbates the coarsening of society.

There are some members here which write things that I can't believe they would if their real identities were known. I mean, just look at @Hunka Hunka Burning Love 

 It's totally liberating to speak freely without any repercussions or possible retributions!    It's like taking your pants off and letting it all hang out!  It's quite exhilarating!  Coarsening of society?    Naaaw, it helps celebrate the wonderful freedoms of democratic society that we all enjoy and partake of!  Is the EUC battery half empty or is it half full?  

Edited October 17, 2019 by Hunka Hunka Burning Love

[Marty Backe]

57 minutes ago, ir_fuel said:

Considering I just came back from my dentist appointment to get a tooth fixed (come to think of it ... what else would a dentist fix?  ) I take this as a serious insult.

 

LET THE DOXING BEGIN!

 

 

[travsformation]

6 hours ago, Marty Backe said:

So I just don't understand the anonymous online culture

I'm glad I can be myself, and completely open and trusting, with the people in my neighbourhood, for example, but the internet is a completely different beast.  I really respect and admire your openness, nothing-to-hide, don't care what people think attitude online, but in my case, that's a luxury I can't afford. 

There are plenty of reasons to stay anonymous online. In my case, most of them have to do with employment, but I can understand how a retiree may have trouble relating to that 

But seriously. Employers look potential candidates up these days. Back when I was doing pro-bono work for some grass-roots organisations, helping the community and small businesses in my area stand up to large corporate interests who were screwing them over, I chose to remain anonymous because many of my clients are, in fact, large corporations and...that kind of stuff doesn't look good on one's resume 

 I chose a pen name for the erotic novels I've translated because it doesn't look good when pitching to the private banking sector.  

And I'd also rather my activity in this forum to remain unconnected to my real-life persona too, so that when I claim I'm unable to take on a new project due to excess workload, my clients can't find out that I was in fact, out on my wheel all day or here on the forum 

Sometimes it's also about not wanting personal information shared in a specific forum (such as here), to be available to the internet at large > people outside the EUC community, for instance, whom the content was not addressed to....Who would want employers or potential future clients looking into your online presence and being able to read every single stupid comment or argument you've posted, without thinking, on this forum? (The battle of motorcycle gloves vs. Flexmeters vs. Flatland 3Ds; ridiculously heated arguments over pedal dipping; etc.). Openness and lack of ego are virtues, but one doesn't necessarily want everything he says, on any venue, to be accessible to absolutely everyone (particularly one's current or future employer).

Things that might be innocent in one context (sh*itting on "these crappy Chinese apps") could be damning in another (a Chinese corporation screening you before assigning you a confidential project). 

And content shared online doesn't even have to be negative, there's also the audience--you share certain things with some people, and certain things with others. Always using your real name means you're traceable across any platform. Would an alcoholic use his real name in an AA forum? Should PTSD victims or war vets share their traumas using their real name in support-group forums? 

Would one use his real name as his porntube username? 

And then there's the fact that all of one's posts, interactions and activities, shared with his real name, are being shared with...whom? Strangers whom we know nothing about?

6 hours ago, Marty Backe said:

I suspect it's so they can be A-holes to other people

In some cases, that might be true, but how important is one's real name here? What good is it to know that "Party_Crasher69", who's constantly disrespectful towards other users, is really named Peter Williams? Unless we plan on looking up where they live and carrying out a vendetta, I don't see what the difference is, especially considering that we're scattered all over the globe, and in most cases, will never meet in person anyway. So, who cares what a user calls himself?

IMHO, in this forum, we're "judged" based on how we interact with others: the value of our opinions, our respect or disrespect towards others, etc. Our real name is irrelevant...here we're whatever we chose to call ourselves when we signed up, I don't think it matters whether that's John Smith or "SoloWheeler". Our "community standing" is what defines us, not our username (think criteria for choosing new mods: does their real name really matter? How many mods, whom we greatly respect, have shared their real name? And does that matter in the slightest?)

Anyway...sorry for the rant, I think I've had too much coffee today... (excess coffee drinking > ranting on forums = procrastination + late bedtimes = lack of self discipline = info I don't fancy sharing with my employers by using my real name) You see what I mean?  

Edited October 17, 2019 by travsformation

[Marty Backe]

42 minutes ago, travsformation said:

I'm glad I can be myself, and completely open and trusting, with the people in my neighbourhood, for example, but the internet is a completely different beast.  I really respect and admire your openness, nothing-to-hide, don't care what people think attitude online, but in my case, that's a luxury I can't afford. 

There are plenty of reasons to stay anonymous online. In my case, most of them have to do with employment, but I can understand how a retiree may have trouble relating to that 

But seriously. Employers look potential candidates up these days. Back when I was doing pro-bono work for some grass-roots organisations, helping the community and small businesses in my area stand up to large corporate interests who were screwing them over, I chose to remain anonymous because many of my clients are, in fact, large corporations and...that kind of stuff doesn't look good on one's resume 

 I chose a pen name for the erotic novels I've translated because it doesn't look good when pitching to the private banking sector.  

And I'd also rather my activity in this forum to remain unconnected to my real-life persona too, so that when I claim I'm unable to take on a new project due to excess workload, my clients can't find out that I was in fact, out on my wheel all day or here on the forum 

Sometimes it's also about not wanting personal information shared in a specific forum (such as here), to be available to the internet at large > people outside the EUC community, for instance, whom the content was not addressed to....Who would want employers or potential future clients looking into your online presence and being able to read every single stupid comment or argument you've posted, without thinking, on this forum? (The battle of motorcycle gloves vs. Flexmeters vs. Flatland 3Ds; ridiculously heated arguments over pedal dipping; etc.). Openness and lack of ego are virtues, but one doesn't necessarily want everything he says, on any venue, to be accessible to absolutely everyone (particularly one's current or future employer).

Things that might be innocent in one context (sh*itting on "these crappy Chinese apps") could be damning in another (a Chinese corporation screening you before assigning you a confidential project). 

And content shared online doesn't even have to be negative, there's also the audience--you share certain things with some people, and certain things with others. Always using your real name means you're traceable across any platform. Would an alcoholic use his real name in an AA forum? Should PTSD victims or war vets share their traumas using their real name in support-group forums? 

Would one use his real name as his porntube username? 

And then there's the fact that all of one's posts, interactions and activities, shared with his real name, are being shared with...whom? Strangers whom we know nothing about?

In some cases, that might be true, but how important is one's real name here? What good is it to know that "Party_Crasher69", who's constantly disrespectful towards other users, is really named Peter Williams? Unless we plan on looking up where they live and carrying out a vendetta, I don't see what the difference is, especially considering that we're scattered all over the globe, and in most cases, will never meet in person anyway. So, who cares what a user calls himself?

IMHO, in this forum, we're "judged" based on how we interact with others: the value of our opinions, our respect or disrespect towards others, etc. Our real name is irrelevant...here we're whatever we chose to call ourselves when we signed up, I don't think it matters whether that's John Smith or "SoloWheeler". Our "community standing" is what defines us, not our username (think criteria for choosing new mods: does their real name really matter? How many mods, whom we greatly respect, have shared their real name? And does that matter in the slightest?)

Anyway...sorry for the rant, I think I've had too much coffee today... (excess coffee drinking > ranting on forums = procrastination + late bedtimes = lack of self discipline = info I don't fancy sharing with my employers by using my real name) You see what I mean?  

I've only been retired two weeks 

I fully understand. My original comment was that I think it's sad. I still think it's sad even though the reasons are perfectly understandable. I think it's sad that I have to use passwords. But it makes perfect sense to do so in this world.

Unless I've somehow developed a rapport with someone, I avoid having meaningful conversations with people or provided in-depth responses to questions because I don't know who I'm talking to. It's not really my loss though.

[Hunka Hunka Burning Love]

2 hours ago, Marty Backe said:

I've only been retired two weeks 

I fully understand. My original comment was that I think it's sad. I still think it's sad even though the reasons are perfectly understandable. I think it's sad that I have to use passwords. But it makes perfect sense to do so in this world.

Unless I've somehow developed a rapport with someone, I avoid having meaningful conversations with people or provided in-depth responses to questions because I don't know who I'm talking to. It's not really my loss though.

Hey turn that mental frown  upside down !   So now that you're retired, what sorts of things do you have planned besides the upcoming incredible LA EUC Games meet up?  Long term I mean.  When's that trip to visit China and the Gotway gang gonna happen?    @Afeez Kay , @Kuji Rolls, and @Tilmann have ventured to the far east.  When are you going to go full EUC crazy and plan a trip?  With a Skydio 2 drone.  Give us some in-depth details.  

Edited October 18, 2019 by Hunka Hunka Burning Love

[Rehab1]

7 hours ago, photorph said:

 

I'm Marc Malik from Michigan.  Originally from Kashmir...but grew up in Michigan.  Well traveled though and have been to almost every country. 

Have been in this electric vehicle industry for 5 years (esk8s... then onewheel, now EUCs).  Started riding EUCs about 2 years ago and realized they are the best PEVs out there.  Started advocating EUCs and have been slowly converting people to them.  I have a lot of EUCs, missing the monster and then i'll essentially have them all.  Recently started working for eWheels, and now it's a matter of too many wheels and not enough time to ride.  We'll be sending Rob from MI to the LA EUC games (3rd from right, I'm 4th from right) so he'll be hopefully bringing a win back for us.  He rides 30 mph backwards, so hope that counts as something over there.  

 

Awesome group photo! I need to ride with you guys before the weather turns crappy. 

[Marty Backe]

49 minutes ago, Hunka Hunka Burning Love said:

Hey turn that mental frown  upside down !   So now that you're retired, what sorts of things do you have planned besides the upcoming incredible LA EUC Games meet up?  Long term I mean.  When's that trip to visit China and the Gotway gang gonna happen?    @Afeez Kay , @Kuji Rolls, and @Tilmann have ventured to the far east.  When are you going to go full EUC crazy and plan a trip?  With a Skydio 2 drone.  Give us some in-depth details.  

You need glasses @Hunka Hunka Burning Love - that was a smiley face 

I'm going to wait for @Jason McNeil when he visits the next time and maybe I'll be able to tag along 

[Mono]

On 10/11/2019 at 8:06 PM, Marty Backe said:

For me, it's an easier life when lived as an open book. Must be awful to live otherwise.

Awful to live? What? That is pretty rough. An open book is perfectly fine, but how about adding an open mind too...

Edited October 19, 2019 by Mono

[photorph]

KS 16x continues to be solid for me when actually riding.  If you ignore the minor issues, don’t do ankle flicks, don’t take it through water, etc etc.. it is a fun ride.  
 

going from Gotway wheels to ks16x I do end up hitting the top speed beep very often.  But when cruising at slower speeds under 25 mph I prefer the handling to the Nikola.  

[Marty Backe]

On 10/19/2019 at 1:16 AM, Mono said:

Awful to live? What? That is pretty rough. An open book is perfectly fine, but how about adding an open mind too...

Here, I'll fix it for you. "Awful to live, for me". Other people can be closed off and happy, and that's great for them. Doesn't affect me one bit.

[Sertified]

On 10/17/2019 at 2:34 PM, photorph said:

 

I'm Marc Malik from Michigan.  Originally from Kashmir...but grew up in Michigan.  Well traveled though and have been to almost every country. 

Have been in this electric vehicle industry for 5 years (esk8s... then onewheel, now EUCs).  Started riding EUCs about 2 years ago and realized they are the best PEVs out there.  Started advocating EUCs and have been slowly converting people to them.  I have a lot of EUCs, missing the monster and then i'll essentially have them all.  Recently started working for eWheels, and now it's a matter of too many wheels and not enough time to ride.  We'll be sending Rob from MI to the LA EUC games (3rd from right, I'm 4th from right) so he'll be hopefully bringing a win back for us.  He rides 30 mph backwards, so hope that counts as something over there.  

@Marty Backe One less anonymous member fo ya

 

 

Hey where in Michigan are you guys from? I'm in Oakland county, looking for some riding buddies.

[photorph]

8 hours ago, Sertified said:

Hey where in Michigan are you guys from? I'm in Oakland county, looking for some riding buddies.

I'm from Ann Arbor-ish area, but we have people from all over (detroit, livonia, rochester, ferndale, etc). Are you on facebook? I can add you to our local chat I started.