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Can I buy a CX 321 16-3 trie for my Nik+? Will it work on it? If so where can I buy one?  Thanks!!!

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For a forum that seems obsessed with tires lately I’m surprised nobody has answered or attempted to answer my question. 

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I’d guess the most probable place to find the CX is to buy it from a 16X owner that has switched the tire and doesn’t feel the need to keep the original.

I haven’t seen (or looked for) the CX being sold anywhere in US or EU. Then again, ”original 16X tire” might get some hits at Ebay, Amazon, or any shop selling KS wheels.

The tire should fit and work, but the behaviour might not be an upgrade to your current one. If you want a more stable tire for your Nikola, there are other 16x3.0 options available.

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3 hours ago, mrelwood said:

I’d guess the most probable place to find the CX is to buy it from a 16X owner that has switched the tire and doesn’t feel the need to keep the original.

I haven’t seen (or looked for) the CX being sold anywhere in US or EU. Then again, ”original 16X tire” might get some hits at Ebay, Amazon, or any shop selling KS wheels.

The tire should fit and work, but the behaviour might not be an upgrade to your current one. If you want a more stable tire for your Nikola, there are other 16x3.0 options available.

 Well I’m open to any ideas you have as to what tire you think will be better.  Right now this wheel is not fun to me. If I can’t find a solution I will be getting rid of it. 

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ChaoYang H-666 (my MSX, magnificent!), H-5167 (16X 2nd batch), H-5146 (16X pre-prod demo), even H-5102 (18XL, MSX) if you don’t need wet off-road grip.

I don’t remember the model numbers for Kenda or other CSTs, but they do have a few other 18x3.0” options as well.

Be aware though that if buying from Ali, pretty much every seller will ship a random pattern by default.

One guy sells the actual H-5167 at Amazon.com, titled as 16X replacement or such.

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33 minutes ago, mrelwood said:

ChaoYang H-666 (my MSX, magnificent!), H-5167 (16X 2nd batch), H-5146 (16X pre-prod demo), even H-5102 (18XL, MSX) if you don’t need wet off-road grip.

I don’t remember the model numbers for Kenda or other CSTs, but they do have a few other 18x3.0” options as well.

Be aware though that if buying from Ali, pretty much every seller will ship a random pattern by default.

One guy sells the actual H-5167 at Amazon.com, titled as 16X replacement or such.

I just ordered a CX from Jason.  I just hope I can figure out how to put it on. Lol

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14 hours ago, Patton250 said:

For a forum that seems obsessed with tires lately I’m surprised nobody has answered or attempted to answer my question. 

This is why I suggested the 16X tire thread be moved and expanded to include the Nikola, since we can use the same tire.  The discussion is relevant to riders of both wheels.

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22 minutes ago, Patton250 said:

I just hope I can figure out how to put it on. Lol

Any bicycle tire change video will get you well on your way. Just don't use solid metal tire irons, as they will scratch the rim and puncture the tube very easily. Bicycle shops sell plastic ones with a steel core, and they have worked very well for me.

Two crucial steps that many people skip, and as a result have a very tough time doing it:

1) Lubing. Dish washing liquid works well, but there are specific tire mounting greases available as well. I wouldn't remove or install any EUC tire without lubing no matter how much I was paid. A nightmare of an idea.

2) Use the center groove of the rim. When starting to remove the tire or trying to get the last bit in, squeeze the tire edges together on the opposite side of the rim, and make sure they go in the groove in the middle of the rim. A lot less force required that way.

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7 hours ago, mrelwood said:

Any bicycle tire change video will get you well on your way. Just don't use solid metal tire irons, as they will scratch the rim and puncture the tube very easily. Bicycle shops sell plastic ones with a steel core, and they have worked very well for me.

Two crucial steps that many people skip, and as a result have a very tough time doing it:

1) Lubing. Dish washing liquid works well, but there are specific tire mounting greases available as well. I wouldn't remove or install any EUC tire without lubing no matter how much I was paid. A nightmare of an idea.

2) Use the center groove of the rim. When starting to remove the tire or trying to get the last bit in, squeeze the tire edges together on the opposite side of the rim, and make sure they go in the groove in the middle of the rim. A lot less force required that way.

How about these? 

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07FDS3VCW/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A31L9XNS556DVQ&psc=1

 

also what do you recommend for the lubricant to get the tire off?  thanks 

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1 hour ago, Patton250 said:

They should do the job. I’m not sure if it’s a perspective issue, but they do seem a bit thick from the photos. Not necessarily an issue though.

1 hour ago, Patton250 said:

also what do you recommend for the lubricant to get the tire off?  thanks 

(Undiluted) Dishwashing liquid (for hand dishes) has served me well enough that I haven’t even bothered buying and trying the proper ones.

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@Patton250 you asked about changing a tire on the Nikola.  I’ve pulled my wheel apart multiple times and changed the tire twice so I’m happy to help, although I’m definitely not an expert.  I think the Ecodrift folks have a decent breakdown video so I’ll add tips to help eliminate potential problems.  I had to remove all the screws to get access to the wheel/tire, as well as the control board.  Make sure you put the tire on the correct direction.  When putting the sides back together, pay attention to feed the wire from the lift cutoff switch through the slit so it feeds inside to the control board.  Make sure to align all pieces so they fit together properly. Don’t bend or break the LEDs, but you will need to move each to the side to access a screw around 3 o’clock.  Tie the wires together as to keep them away from the board and fan and that they’re secure.  Silicone at minimum the hall sensor connection and wheel hub cover, if not all of the connections.  Test the wheel to make sure it works properly, fan works, Bluetooth, etc. after replacing everything but before reinstalling the sides.  When reinstalling the sides, make sure you don’t pinch any wires.  The sides should go back on very easily. 

Reach out if you have any questions. If you were closer I’d help but not sure $100 would motivate me to do it myself.  It’s a real pain.  It took me 2 hours to change the tire the last time after knowing exactly what tools were needed and understanding the process, so give yourself plenty of time and take it slow, double checking your work. 

Good luck!

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4 hours ago, Dzlchef said:

@Patton250 you asked about changing a tire on the Nikola.  I’ve pulled my wheel apart multiple times and changed the tire twice so I’m happy to help, although I’m definitely not an expert.  I think the Ecodrift folks have a decent breakdown video so I’ll add tips to help eliminate potential problems.  I had to remove all the screws to get access to the wheel/tire, as well as the control board.  Make sure you put the tire on the correct direction.  When putting the sides back together, pay attention to feed the wire from the lift cutoff switch through the slit so it feeds inside to the control board.  Make sure to align all pieces so they fit together properly. Don’t bend or break the LEDs, but you will need to move each to the side to access a screw around 3 o’clock.  Tie the wires together as to keep them away from the board and fan and that they’re secure.  Silicone at minimum the hall sensor connection and wheel hub cover, if not all of the connections.  Test the wheel to make sure it works properly, fan works, Bluetooth, etc. after replacing everything but before reinstalling the sides.  When reinstalling the sides, make sure you don’t pinch any wires.  The sides should go back on very easily. 

Reach out if you have any questions. If you were closer I’d help but not sure $100 would motivate me to do it myself.  It’s a real pain.  It took me 2 hours to change the tire the last time after knowing exactly what tools were needed and understanding the process, so give yourself plenty of time and take it slow, double checking your work. 

Good luck!

 I didn’t realize you have to remove the control board and all that other stuff. I also didn’t realize I would have to have silicone things. I’m an idiot. I should’ve just sent this thing to Jason. Thanks man. 

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@Patton250 I'm hoping to work on my wheel tonight, and tho I'm not taking the wheel out, I can show you the way to take out the wheel without having to remove the control board and all that jazz. Don't even need to separate the halves. I'll make a quick video to explain and point things out!

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41 minutes ago, redfoxdude said:

@Patton250 I'm hoping to work on my wheel tonight, and tho I'm not taking the wheel out, I can show you the way to take out the wheel without having to remove the control board and all that jazz. Don't even need to separate the halves. I'll make a quick video to explain and point things out!

Man thank you so much!!!!!!!

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