Marty Backe Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 On 8/25/2019 at 1:33 AM, redfoxdude said: Good news! I successfully disabled the startup sound by writing a modified configuration file to the Bluetooth module! The sound was indeed on the module itself - two audio tones: "4 Note Rising Scale" and "V Long High" (the worst part.) There are actually a lot of preset tones to choose from, and you can define your own (in terms of notes and durations.) I haven't looked into whether or not there is enough room on the Bluetooth chip or the EEPROM chip to fit a short audio file. I also renamed the module to "redfoxdude's Nikola," though I almost called it "Rolling Boombox!" Hah. On a more technical note, using an FTDI breakout board along with a level shifter was more work than I was thinking, haha. I ended up stealing the 1.8V voltage regulator off of another board I had laying around - the 1.8V logic reference has to come from somewhere! I would definitely recommend buying one of the dedicated USB SPI programmers for this. A 2mm pitch connector I put together from scraps at my work was also really helpful, so I didn't need to solder wires directly to the module. Also, I only found older versions of the development tools from 3rd parties, rather than from Qualcomm. And the graphical tool that helps a lot with changing the audio tone settings was in yet another place. lol. Anyway, it's fairly straight forward once you have everything in place. I'll probably whip up a step-by-step guide later, but it's late, so I'm gonna sleep! Love this. Unfortunately, I suspect that "it's fairly straight forward once you have everything in place" means that this will not be possible for 98% of the owners out there. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pingouin Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 (edited) Hello guys, Another idea for those of you who own recent gotways (Monster V3, Tesla V1, Nikola) A simple modification made on my friends Nikola : just put a on/off switch between the bluetooth module and it's power supply, fix the switch somewhere accessible (my friend has put it on the side of the handle but it can't be easily seen). It's very convenient, cost nothing, doesn't require to be an expert at soldering or programming. You still get the bluetooth sound when you turn on the module, but not anymore when you turn the Nikola on Edited September 5, 2019 by Pingouin 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Backe Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Pingouin said: Hello guys, Another idea for those of you who own recent gotways (Monster V3, Tesla V1, Nikola) A simple modification made on my friends Nikola : just put a on/off switch between the bluetooth module and it's power supply, fix the switch somewhere accessible (my friend has put it on the side of the handle but it can't be easily seen). It's very convenient, cost nothing, doesn't require to be an expert at soldering or programming. You still get the bluetooth sound when you turn on the module, but not anymore when you turn the Nikola on I've gotten over the startup sound. It's annoying but not really worth spending any further effort trying to stop. I don't find myself ever turning the wheel on in a doctors office or library Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrelwood Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 14 hours ago, Pingouin said: just put a on/off switch between the bluetooth module and it's power supply, I would’ve put the switch between the speaker cables. That way the sound would not play at all when turning the switch on. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfoxdude Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 (edited) On 9/5/2019 at 11:06 AM, Marty Backe said: Love this. Unfortunately, I suspect that "it's fairly straight forward once you have everything in place" means that this will not be possible for 98% of the owners out there. Yeah, I think that setting up the dev tools and navigating their horrible interfaces would be pretty daunting for most people. A switch or 555 timer controlled relay would be much easier, for sure. Though, I've been curious if the ~$11 modules on eBay would work as drop in replacements, especially since I'm kinda worried I'm going to brick mine trying to get converted audio stored onto EEPROM chip for a cool startup sound, ha! I haven't had any luck getting that to work, and unfortunately the documentation for the tools is really vague. For now, I made a custom startup tone with the user defined tones options, but I look forward to playing around with this once I get back home from my work travels. Edited September 7, 2019 by redfoxdude 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisjunlee Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Let’s not forget the bigger value picture here: Gotway has been trying to figure this out to no avail. @redfoxdude can pass on his fix to Gotway so all future Gotway wheels will no longer suffer from this. Thousands of future owners are benefiting from this - that’s quite an amazing impact. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrelwood Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 4 hours ago, chrisjunlee said: Gotway has been trying to figure this out to no avail. Really? Have they commented considering the startup sound to be an issue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post chrisjunlee Posted September 8, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 8, 2019 13 hours ago, mrelwood said: Really? Have they commented considering the startup sound to be an issue? Yup, Jason mentioned it’s been on their todo list for a while + he’s been bugging them about it. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adel Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 Has anyone successfully installed and used a relay to get rid of the startup sound, is there video/instructions anywhere? @Marty Backe, @mrelwood would something like this work: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06ZY39R5Q/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Backe Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Adel said: Has anyone successfully installed and used a relay to get rid of the startup sound, is there video/instructions anywhere? @Marty Backe, @mrelwood would something like this work: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06ZY39R5Q/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 I"ve adapted to the startup sound and therefore haven't pursued any other options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrelwood Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 7 hours ago, Adel said: @mrelwood would something like this work: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06ZY39R5Q/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 That is quite large and would require a constant 5VDC input. I would use this instead: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DC-5V-12V-NE555-0-25s-Timer-Delay-Relay-Switch-Module-Adjustable-On-Off-for-Car-/252456160636 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mrelwood Posted October 16, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 16, 2019 (edited) Quote I would use this instead: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DC-5V-12V-NE555-0-25s-Timer-Delay-Relay-Switch-Module-Adjustable-On-Off-for-Car-/252456160636 A local rider just installed the small $2 relay card from the above link to his Nikola, and succesfully removed the startup tone. The speakers connect automatically after the tone has been played. Edit: Final install location: Edited October 17, 2019 by mrelwood 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diana Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Whoah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freewheeler Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 Is anyone in the LA, OC or SD area willing to address this issue on my wheel, for a fee? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred8569 Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 Is it me or I read somewhere new MSX or Nikola models don't deal with this annoying sound anymore ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michmuch Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 Anyone has ever tried the timer relay mod on his wheel ? Possible to have some link for used parts and picture or video of the mod please ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrelwood Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 2 hours ago, michmuch said: Anyone has ever tried the timer relay mod on his wheel ? Possible to have some link for used parts and picture or video of the mod please ? Dude, four posts up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michmuch Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 16 hours ago, mrelwood said: Dude, four posts up! Oops... How could I mis it !?... Thanks, it's perfect ! About the ebay link, it go to a multiple choice item, I guess from your picture the right one is the "DC 5V Delay Turn on Module" version, right ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jason McNeil Posted November 15, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 15, 2019 Gotway rep says they will not suppress the startup tone by default, unless they get enough complaints. So please help get this changed by voicing your opinion on the Gotway facebook page. https://www.facebook.com/groups/GotWay/ "Boss will not change it until many complaints about it" 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrelwood Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 4 hours ago, michmuch said: Oops... How could I mis it !?... Thanks, it's perfect ! About the ebay link, it go to a multiple choice item, I guess from your picture the right one is the "DC 5V Delay Turn on Module" version, right ? Yes, that’s the one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darrell Wesh Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 (edited) I don’t have that loud startup sound on my V3 Monster 100v, and Bluetooth connects just fine. Edited November 15, 2019 by Darrell Wesh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zack Wong Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 I need to do this mod! That startup noise is deafening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
systema Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 I just wanted to say I successful installed the relay following the wiring @mrelwood post. Thanks! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lavabo Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 Do we need the 25 second relay or the 10 sec as pictured is sufficient? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post D3m0nzz Posted February 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 13, 2020 As a note: I got a 100v 21700 Nik in this week and it does not seem to make this sound. Just a beep for turn on and then a double beep when connection to EUC World has been established. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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