Reggie510 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 10 hours ago, Darrell Wesh said: I have a lot of Klim gear but I continually push the Marrakesh because of its comfort and low profile good looks as well as stretch fabric versatility (you can layer very easily with it). Most people don’t want to wear moto-jackets because it’s either uncomfortable or looks out of place/bad. Someone once reviewed the Marrakesh and said it felt like wearing yoga pants for the upper body lol. Thanks @Darrell Wesh. The Marrakesh sounds great. Right now I'm leaning toward getting a Marrakesh and pairing it with something like this (Forcefield Elite Chest Protector): The other option I'm considering is getting the Fox Flexforce and then finding a light jacket with some kind of abrasion resistance. Is all the armor in the Marrakesh removable? I'm thinking I might have two setups, one where I use the Marrakesh and this chest protector, and another where I use the Marrakesh without the body armor (if it's possible) and the Fox Flexforce. I would have considered getting the Fox Flexforce by itself, and I guess some folks ride around with just that on, but does it really have any abrasion resistance at all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darrell Wesh Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Reggie510 said: Thanks @Darrell Wesh. The Marrakesh sounds great. Right now I'm leaning toward getting a Marrakesh and pairing it with something like this (Forcefield Elite Chest Protector): The other option I'm considering is getting the Fox Flexforce and then finding a light jacket with some kind of abrasion resistance. Is all the armor in the Marrakesh removable? I'm thinking I might have two setups, one where I use the Marrakesh and this chest protector, and another where I use the Marrakesh without the body armor (if it's possible) and the Fox Flexforce. I would have considered getting the Fox Flexforce by itself, and I guess some folks ride around with just that on, but does it really have any abrasion resistance at all? Yeah all it’s armor is removable 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gasmantle Posted September 6, 2019 Author Share Posted September 6, 2019 Many thanks for all the replies, plenty for me to think about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retrovertigo Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 You know all those armour outfits you can buy? The ones that are like exposed armour all over your body? Well they all seem to be like a see through mesh type material with the armour attached to it? Is there a proper jacket that has that kind of body armour all over it? Cheers (does that all make sense?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggie510 Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 2 hours ago, Retrovertigo said: You know all those armour outfits you can buy? The ones that are like exposed armour all over your body? Well they all seem to be like a see through mesh type material with the armour attached to it? Is there a proper jacket that has that kind of body armour all over it? Cheers (does that all make sense?) Yeah I think I know what you're getting at. I've done a bit of research, tried out a bunch of jackets, and the jackets I've found that have elbow, shoulder, back and chest protection have tended to be too bulky and inflexible for my taste. I myself just put in an order for a Klim Marrakesh jacket for its purported comfort and good coverage on the elbows, shoulders and back. It doesn't have chest protection so I bought a separate Forcefield elite chest protector. I'll see how that goes. I'm also considering, in addition, to get the Demon Flexforce X2 D30 and wear that with the Klim Marrakesh with the armor removed. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darrell Wesh Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 1 hour ago, Reggie510 said: I'm also considering, in addition, to get the Demon Flexforce X2 D30 and wear that with the Klim Marrakesh with the armor removed. Hmmm good idea. I have both. Although that sort of defeats the convenience of tossing on/bringing one jacket with protection. 1 hour ago, Reggie510 said: I've found that have elbow, shoulder, back and chest protection have tended to be too bulky and inflexible for my taste. You will be very happy with the Marrakesh then. D30 conforms to your body and gets more flexible with body warmth so you barely feel the armor there. The 1000 denier stretch fabric of course is the showstopper and makes it the most comfortable moto jacket. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ir_fuel Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 On 8/31/2019 at 10:54 PM, Unventor said: @Gasmantle Instead of the POC jacket I suggest to look for something called xion from Holland. https://xionpg.com https://xionpg.com/body-protection/longsleeve-jacket-pro-d3o/ This looks pretty good. The question is, what to wear over it that as some abrasion resistance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ir_fuel Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 Fot those that use the Demon Flex Force X2 D3O, how do they fit with wrist protectors? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggie510 Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 On 9/8/2019 at 12:46 AM, Darrell Wesh said: Hmmm good idea. I have both. Although that sort of defeats the convenience of tossing on/bringing one jacket with protection. Yeah, I totally get that, and I have similar reservations. My idea at the moment is to use the Marrakesh with armor when I'm commuting/running around town and to use the Demon FlexForce + Marrakesh without armor when I'm cruising at higher speeds or off-roading. In terms of the second scenario, my preference would be to use the Demon FlexForce by itself, but it doesn't seem like it has a lot of abrasion resistance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darrell Wesh Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 4 hours ago, Reggie510 said: Yeah, I totally get that, and I have similar reservations. My idea at the moment is to use the Marrakesh with armor when I'm commuting/running around town and to use the Demon FlexForce + Marrakesh without armor when I'm cruising at higher speeds or off-roading. In terms of the second scenario, my preference would be to use the Demon FlexForce by itself, but it doesn't seem like it has a lot of abrasion resistance? Zero abrasion resistance. It’s designed for snow really. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meulebeest Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Hi there, I had my first "gravity adjustment" and hamburger-ed my Z10 to the ground. My Macna motor vest (with elbow and shoulder-padding) worked fine - albeit with a slight color change to green ... But my chest (and therefore so was I) was looking for air after this encounter ... SO I added these to my guard-robe (:-)) : A bit colorful, but hey - live little ... longer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rama Douglas Posted November 21, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 21, 2019 (edited) On 9/5/2019 at 3:25 PM, Darrell Wesh said: The Klim Tek Pack bookbag has Chest protection built in. https://www.klim.com/Tek-Pak-3216-000 Or you can go with Demon flexforce x2 body armor and get a huge bulky SAS-Tec chest protector along with the standard rib protection foam. But it’s really quite bulky chest protector and you will look funny so I took mine out. That Demon Flexforce X2 looks badass! Wonder if it would have helped me out last week when I crashed at around 30mph. I was transitioning into the bike lane from the street and low and behold, there was a 3 inch lip where the street had sunk below its normal level. I merged into the bike lane, wheel was close to parallel to the lip, and it stopped and I went down on my shoulder hard and way too fast to react in any way. Soon as I hit I knew I was badly injured. I have been wearing this, https://www.amazon.com/Webetop-Adults-Chest-Protector-Skiing/dp/B078NLHHG2/ref=mp_s_a_1_1_sspa?keywords=webetop+armor&qid=1574295972&sr=8-1-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUExRzZKTEZTTUVIQ1YzJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwMDUwODI2MlFWSktVTVNMR1c2UiZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwMzIwMDk5UzlUOEdLWkk1U05ZJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfcGhvbmVfc2VhcmNoX2F0ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU= and although it has shoulder pads, it did nothing to help keep me from serious injury. Thanks @Darrell WeshWesh for the Demon Flexforce X2 idea. I've been looking into stepping up my torso protection, so looking for other suggestions. There's a Leatt one I've been eyeballing for around $250. It's super bulky, but after this injury and my love for fast cruising, maybe I'll just go full on football shoulder pads... LoL. I'll look through the rest of these posts, but if anyone has any suggestions, I'm all ears for protecting the shoulder areas. Seems most of the high speed crashes end up with a Superman slide (ideally), but my crash left zero time to do much else than wonder what the hell I hit. Full face helmet saved my life, as head hit hard too and was seeing stars even with a motorcycle helmet. And btw, this happened a week and a half ago and I still feel like I was punched in the heart by the Hulk. Broken clavicle, scapula and rib...no fun at all. I'll heal but supposed to be a long healing process. I'm jonesing to ride, and have always worn full gear, but def gonna step up the shoulder protection... Edited November 21, 2019 by Rama Douglas 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rehab1 Posted November 21, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 21, 2019 (edited) 39 minutes ago, Rama Douglas said: Demon Flexforce X2 looks badass! Wonder if it would have helped me out last week when I crashed at around 30mph. 39 minutes ago, Rama Douglas said: Broken clavicle, scapula and rib... Sorry to hear this buddy! Wow you really got beat up! Unfortunately the bones you broke are hard to immobilize so the healing process is lengthy. I feel really bad for you! Prayers! There’s something weird about hitting the ‘Like’ button concerning your accident. There should be a ‘Praying for You’ button. Edited November 21, 2019 by Rehab1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rama Douglas Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 1 minute ago, Rehab1 said: Sorry to hear this buddy! Wow you really got beat up! Unfortunately the bones you broke are hard to immobilize so the healing process is lengthy. I feel really bad for you! Prayers! Yeah, it's a doozy alright. Thank you Dan! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rehab1 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, Rama Douglas said: Yeah, it's a doozy alright. Thank you Dan! For some reason you were the last person that I expected to crash. Best wishes on your recovery! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunka Hunka Burning Love Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Oh man that sucks to hear that. Hope you have a speedy recovery @Rama Douglas. Everyone falls sooner or later. It’s just the nature of defying the laws of physics on one wheel that really shouldn’t be going this fast at all when you think about it. Some people luck out and ninja out of harm’s way, but harm has a way of getting even eventually. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rama Douglas Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 9 hours ago, Hunka Hunka Burning Love said: Oh man that sucks to hear that. Hope you have a speedy recovery @Rama Douglas. Everyone falls sooner or later. It’s just the nature of defying the laws of physics on one wheel that really shouldn’t be going this fast at all when you think about it. Some people luck out and ninja out of harm’s way, but harm has a way of getting even eventually. Thanks Hunka! And yeah, I blame the Drum and Bass in the cans. Makes me ride more aggressively...LoL 😜 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend27 Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 (edited) I have this. https://www.lazyrolling.com/products/2019-armored-hoodie-by-lazyrolling I really like it and it's keeps me decent hot. Also very stealth look. I have the version I linked to, but the 2020 version should also be absolutely fine. Just remember to buy the pads that their also selling Edited November 23, 2019 by Legend27 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giggidditygiggiddity Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 (edited) I got this as a standby once weather gets cold enough to justify wearing it, ill likely add the bright vest n chest armor addition. In the meantime been wearing that Chinese armor vest guard under numerous names from Amazon lol, much comfier in hot humid weather. I do find the irony of having spilled twice when I decided to leave it off by chance. Wrist guards work. Always walked away with a tingly nipps if anything, n just feeling I was hit in the chest with a 2x4 so far. Edit: I just tested wearing the Chinese armor vest over the slate jacket and does feel snug, I like it, though new problem is getting a size larger wristguards and elbow pads to wear over jacket/elbow pads now. Here I was feeling it's cool enough, as soon I took it off I'm actually sweating underneath. Dang it is breathable under all that! Edited November 24, 2019 by giggidditygiggiddity edit: the pilot slate is meant to cool but I think my body just heats up alot thus my reasoning it really needs to be air cold. I was surprised the add on visibility vest is about $65usd, where the slate jacket is just $99usd, it has foam on the back/elb 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptikos Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 What do you all think of the Joe Rocket Phoenix 6.0 Jacket? People mentioned getting bruised or cracked ribs when crashing. This one stood out to me for having some rib protection, which most other jackets seem to ignore. reinforced with Rock Tex™ at the shoulders, elbows and ribs Sculpted high density padding at ribs (along with the regular shoulder, elbow, back padding) http://www.joerocket.com/mesh-jackets/k6wox1qbixx07e0etpmmz8awcflixq I'm just looking for a decent jacket, and hoping to avoid needing separate chest/rib armor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptikos Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 9 hours ago, Skeptikos said: What do you all think of the Joe Rocket Phoenix 6.0 Jacket? People mentioned getting bruised or cracked ribs when crashing. This one stood out to me for having some rib protection, which most other jackets seem to ignore. reinforced with Rock Tex™ at the shoulders, elbows and ribs Sculpted high density padding at ribs (along with the regular shoulder, elbow, back padding) http://www.joerocket.com/mesh-jackets/k6wox1qbixx07e0etpmmz8awcflixq I'm just looking for a decent jacket, and hoping to avoid needing separate chest/rib armor. Answering my own question-- it looks like the CE "chest" protectors actually cover a lot of ribs, so there probably isn't much need for rib protection beyond that. Plus the Joe Rocket padding looks like it's more decorative than anything. I think the Dainese and Alpinestars jackets with chest protector pockets that people linked to are probably the better way to go, rib-wise. Just have to add the chest protectors. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darrell Wesh Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 4 hours ago, Skeptikos said: Answering my own question-- it looks like the CE "chest" protectors actually cover a lot of ribs, so there probably isn't much need for rib protection beyond that. Plus the Joe Rocket padding looks like it's more decorative than anything. I think the Dainese and Alpinestars jackets with chest protector pockets that people linked to are probably the better way to go, rib-wise. Just have to add the chest protectors. Yea joe rocket is cheapo gear, but adequate for EUC speeds. Just don’t expect it to hold up in a crash though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptikos Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 On 5/6/2021 at 12:02 PM, Darrell Wesh said: Yea joe rocket is cheapo gear, but adequate for EUC speeds. Just don’t expect it to hold up in a crash though I don't know enough about motorcycle jackets to be dissing any brands (but I'll take your word for it). I just meant the rib padding specifically looks decorative-- I realized they're talking about a series of padded vertical arrows on the side of the jacket. It looks cool but it obviously leaves a lot of your ribs exposed. I wonder if we can get @Mike Sacristan to convince Lazyrolling to offer chest protector pockets. Based on what I've seen, it sounds like EUC rib injuries are a lot more common than back injuries, and maybe as common as shoulder injuries. So if Lazyrolling is the go-to brand for PEV jackets, it seems like they'd want to include the chest option along with back/shoulder/elbow protection. Maybe they could prevent some rib injuries that way. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..... Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 (edited) Aerostich suit. Knees/elbows/hips/shoulders/back/chest. It wasnt cheap, and it fits. It probably works better if I wear it tho. Waterproof goretex. Takes less than 1 minute to put it on. Adjustable pads in d30* type material. Machine washable. Hand made in USA, custom fit. I like to think it doesnt make me appear miltant or a child as well. MOST get a much more visible version however It seems more suited for street than dirt, imho. It will outlast many wheels and probably me, especially if i dont wear it often. I also have set of Olympia mesh pants and jacket. No chest in that tho as it flows VERY cool. Much lower quality but decent. Compromises for sure... Edited May 7, 2021 by ShanesPlanet 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bASKOU Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 Waiting to receive my motocross body armor and short (for spring/summer). I saw some reviews for Aliexpress copy of the "Alpinestars Bionic 2 MX Protection Jacket". And reviews were pretty good. Spoiler Spoiler I'l give my feedback after receiving it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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