chrisjunlee Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 (edited) Just wanted to create an easy top level thread for slime newbies like myself, and wanted to document my findings and process. @Marty Backehas covered this process well in his videos: Filling EUC Tire with Slime Fixing A Flat With Slime The fun is in discussing the details of course. == Considerations == Inner tubes vs tubeless: works with both and there are formulations specific to each one - not sure what differs Latex vs butyl inner tubes: compatible with both. == Deformulation (aka what is it?) == tube (e.g. Slime Tube Sealant): 1% rubber latex, 40% glycerol, 5% cellulose tubeless (e.g. Slime Tubeless Advanced Formula): 10% latex, 40% glycerol, and 5% cellulose Essentially 3 ingredients: latex or butyl rubber: the binder that gunks up the hole glycerol: a carrier that doesn't dry up like water cellulose: bulk filler to aid in coagulation. DIY sealants use glitter - yes, sparkling glitter for the same effect. == Brands == Slime is the most readily available option in the US, and comes in several versions - any would work fine, but you can opt for the higher binder containing tubeless premium version. Stans-No tube sealant seems popular with the NYC crew. Orange Seal Tubeless Tire Sealant was selected as the best performing in this sealant test blog. == FAQ == [to do] Edited August 12, 2019 by chrisjunlee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparetire55 Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 (edited) After seeing these videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_v1bCV-O9y4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5DWhIF1c0M I prefer Armor-Dillo/Multiseal (basically same product). I've had Slime fail on me a few times with ATV's and Motorcycles so I'm pretty hopeful about this stuff. I've got about 20mi so far on my KS16X and no flats. Edited August 12, 2019 by sparetire55 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeRide Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 I have had very good success with Stan's on tubeless and tubed tires. It has a very low viscosity though so, it may be best for small pin type punctures. I recently had a bad tube/tire puncture that was partly slice and puncture, very non-uniform. I believe it was a piece of sharp metal that did the damage. I didn't find it, but I heard it go shooting away. Stan's was not working so I went to try another sealant. I was going to use Slime or another one I had when I came across Goop first. I looked at it's texture and I liked it because it had some larger rubber like material pieces in the liquid which I thought would be good for larger holes and non uniform cuts. So I tried it and it work very fast. I left the Stan's that was already in the tube, although some had leaked out through the puncture. Goop is the UK version of Slime I believe, but I can recommend it. Still have other brands to try, but I'm in no hurry to get any more punctures. I'm not sure it is good to mix the different sealants, but it my case there was no issue. Because it was a nasty hole, I later did use a vulcanizing patch on it as well so unfortunately I won't be able to say if it would of held long term on its own. It was holding 50psi though. Goop now seems hard to get in the US which is too bad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisjunlee Posted August 12, 2019 Author Share Posted August 12, 2019 (edited) 21 minutes ago, FreeRide said: I have had very good success with Stan's on tubeless and tubed tires. It has a very low viscosity though so, it may be best for small pin type punctures. Oh wow, I figured Stan's would be high viscosity due to the higher latex content (20%). Is application straightforward? I called a bike shop, and they couldn't wrap their head on why I would just want to buy the sealant vs having them "install it" - they were genuinely puzzled and put me on hold while they ran back to see if they even offered it for sale. Edited August 12, 2019 by chrisjunlee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeRide Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 33 minutes ago, chrisjunlee said: Oh wow, I figured Stan's would be high viscosity due to the higher latex content (20%). Is application straightforward? I called a bike shop, and they couldn't wrap their head on why I would just want to buy the sealant vs having them "install it" - they were genuinely puzzled and put me on hold while they ran back to see if they even offered it for sale. Mine came in 2oz bottles, with a filler cone style nozzle. I remove the valve core and squeeze it in. Very simple virtually no spillage. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daley1 Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 If Slime only lasts 2 years,do u have to do a tyre change and replace the tube or can u just chuck another bottle in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucasD Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 From most test I saw, that stan/ orange etc. may be a better seal but longevity wise is 3-6 months in bike. So thank you I will stay with long lived slime... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisjunlee Posted August 14, 2019 Author Share Posted August 14, 2019 Just wanted to update with my experience with Stan's. Process: deflate tire, remove valve stem core empty 2 oz bottle into valve stem replace valve stem core and pump up tire power on and lift up to make wheel spin out It worked! The tire is holding pressure now - absolutely delighted! This was much easier and faster than I expected. Entire process took under 5 minutes and there was no mess at all - not a single drop spilled. Stan's is the way to go, slime is a bit more effort. This could've easily been weeks of downtime and hours of work to replace the inner tube. I'm delighted how well everything worked out 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan acoustic-unicyclist Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 On 8/13/2019 at 2:32 AM, Daley1 said: If Slime only lasts 2 years,do u have to do a tyre change and replace the tube or can u just chuck another bottle in? You can just add some more, it replaces a bit of the air in your tube, so there's still plenty of space. (you'll slowly have less range with a heavier wheel; however, 2 years is a decent life for a tire anyways... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeRide Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 See also this related thread. Tire sealant comparison 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chobot Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 @chrisjunlee top 2 sealants i go to are Armor-Dillo & caffelatex sealant. FWIW: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giggidditygiggiddity Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 On 8/13/2019 at 7:34 PM, chrisjunlee said: empty 2 oz bottle into valve stem Only 2oz? I thought I heard maybe I misread for euc tires at least 8oz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrelwood Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 2 hours ago, giggidditygiggiddity said: Only 2oz? I thought I heard maybe I misread for euc tires at least 8oz. 4oz for a bicycle tire has been the standard for most sealants I’ve seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvoKnvl Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 There is a calculator on the Slime website. If you enter your tire size, it tells you the amount to add. https://www.slime.com/us/slime-calculator.php 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planemo Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 Sounds about right - the calculator comes up with 6.8oz for a 19x3, Marty has been suggesting around 6oz so pretty much bang on. Cheers Marty! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shad0z Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 Don't use tubeless sealant, it just clumps into a ball inside the tube Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EkW Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 My experience with bicycles has been that tubeless sealants tend not to work well with tubed tire systems. The sealant would get between the tube and tire and not seal at all. Also, I have never had a sealant work in the wet. Sidewall cuts seem to be the hardest to seal. Thirty or more years ago Mavic had a tubeless tubular (aka sew up) tire that used a thick sealant injected through the hole using a special needle, much like a common tire plug. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
someguy152 Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 On 8/12/2019 at 5:45 PM, sparetire55 said: After seeing these videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_v1bCV-O9y4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5DWhIF1c0M I prefer Armor-Dillo/Multiseal (basically same product). I've had Slime fail on me a few times with ATV's and Motorcycles so I'm pretty hopeful about this stuff. I've got about 20mi so far on my KS16X and no flats. how much did you put in (same as slimes' rec) and how can you tell when to stop. let's say you buy a 32 oz bottle and need only 8 in the tire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WI_Hedgehog Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 While the tubeless sealant comparison is great, EUCs running tubes probably want tube sealant:Slime 10004 Tube Repair Sealant, 16 oz. ($8 Amazon) Realizing no pump will work practically off a USB port due to the limited current, self-contained-battery pumps don't last, and although one could possibly wire a 12V plug to the EUC battery and run a pump it's not a good idea, a hand-pump is probably best: Pro Bike Tool:Mini Pump ($30 Amazon)Mini Floor Pump ($35 Amazon) Hakko CHP PN-20-M Micro Pliers ($12 Amazon) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Iliev Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 Subscribe. What is it I read somewhere that some of those sealants corrode the rim? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrelwood Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 3 hours ago, George Iliev said: Subscribe. What is it I read somewhere that some of those sealants corrode the rim? All EUCs except the mTen has a tube. If the sealant is only inside the tube, it has no contact with the rim and can’t corrode it, even if the sealant in question would be bad enough to do so on a tubeless tire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singletrack Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 Anyone notice a difference in handling after adding Slime? I put about 6oz in my MSX tire and I noticed a difference on first ride. It just seems that the mass has changed enough to change the handling of turning. Anyone have a similar experience? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planemo Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 I did about 300 miles on my MSX before using 6ox of SLIME and I have to say, I noticed zero difference. I do throw the wheel around quite a bit as well. That's not a lot of weight to spread around the circumference of a tyre, pretty surprised you noticed a big difference. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singletrack Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 Thanks @Planemo. The other thing I will check is my tire pressure. I may have been riding with a lower PSI than after adding the Slime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sCar Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 Hello! Do you guys think that you should put slime in the tire, before riding the first time or put it in later when you have used the tire for a couple of 100km? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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