Popular Post Jean eRide.ie Community Posted August 12, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted August 12, 2019 @KAY GEE mentioned that there is a rumour about a Z10 Pro with Higher Voltage and other changes. My reaction was: Interesting, with the bad service Ninebot is giving to the Z10 already. I thought they were abandoning the EUC market and focusing on eScooters (more profitable) What are your thoughts? Anyone has any info about this? 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hsiang Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 (edited) The Z10 PRO? does have a nice ring to it..... Edited August 13, 2019 by Hsiang Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afeez Kay Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 I wonder what the improvements could be? The most important improvements that I would want in the pro are: - Better integrated trolley - More battery capacity for improved range cant think of more ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Girth Brooks Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 Despite the BMS failure I had with my Z10, I would be highly interested in a new model. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ir_fuel Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 Still very happy with my Z10. Except for the trolley handle, that is. KingSong still is king in that department. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrelwood Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 While some people love the behaviour of the wide low-profile tire, I think a 18x3.0 or even 18x3.5” (if such exists) would open up the markets for a larger audience. Then again, I’d feel extremely insecure buying a wheel from a company that has burned a lot of bridges with it’s lack of support, and has said to cop out from the EUC business in general. Remains to be seen what they come up with, if any. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GyroRideRz Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Any news about this rumor ? i need only one improvment : battery life. I want a real 80km distance of use with an average speed limit of 40km/h. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean eRide.ie Community Posted September 3, 2019 Author Share Posted September 3, 2019 I didn't hear anything new since. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pollytronman Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 I doubt about voltage. Not much benefits and they will have a hard time selling legally in EU about DC max voltage safety limitations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GyroRideRz Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ir_fuel Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 On 9/7/2019 at 10:41 AM, pollytronman said: I doubt about voltage. Not much benefits and they will have a hard time selling legally in EU about DC max voltage safety limitations. Why? KingSong sells 84V CE certified wheels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pollytronman Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 11 hours ago, ir_fuel said: Why? KingSong sells 84V CE certified wheels. I tried to google it I read somewhere that safe to touch dc voltage is around 60-70 so every dc electronic domestic device that sells in EU should be less than that value but I can't find the info. Maybe I'm wrong... About Kingsongs, well... it's easy to stamp a EU sticker on the wheel (same goes to 9bot ones or other brands) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chriull Posted September 18, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 18, 2019 5 hours ago, pollytronman said: I tried to google it I read somewhere that safe to touch dc voltage is around 60-70 so every dc electronic domestic device that sells in EU should be less than that value but I can't find the info. You get it by googling (extra) low voltage directive. Extra low voltage with low risk for electric shock is below 120V DC. Imo hospitals/(special) laboratories use(d) 100V DC as mains for their equipment for safety. Afair 60-70V DC is something considered as "(really) safe", except for kids, pets and damp room/enviroment. 16 hours ago, ir_fuel said: Why? KingSong sells 84V CE certified wheels. 5 hours ago, pollytronman said: Maybe I'm wrong... About Kingsongs, well... it's easy to stamp a EU sticker on the wheel (same goes to 9bot ones or other brands) Yes - there is no such thing as a certification for a CE sign. Just a "ruleset", which the manufacturer "promises" to comply with by putting such a sign on his device. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Max Ramsey Posted September 18, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 18, 2019 The reason manufacturers want to keep below 75V is to avoid falling under the EU Low Voltage Directive (LVD). This covers all electronics with DC voltages between 75V and 1500V. I couldn’t find any 84V Kingsong wheels that are CE certified in my brief research. https://ec.europa.eu/growth/sectors/electrical-engineering/lvd-directive_en 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feynman Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 On 8/13/2019 at 8:25 AM, Girth Brooks said: Despite the BMS failure I had with my Z10, I would be highly interested in a new model. I'm not meaning to take this thread off on a tangent, but I can't send DMs yet since I'm new. Sorry in advance. Girth, could you please describe the symptoms of your BMS failure and how you fixed it? My Z10 has started giving me a cell imbalance warning and sometimes alarms, limits my speed and tilts back at very low speed (5mph). TIA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planemo Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 I think Girth bought a whole new battery pack (which comes with the bms). An expensive solution, but worked I believe. I wish ninebot would supply bms's on their own. Would save a ton of money. I guess they just dont want people opening up the packs and fiddling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feynman Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 I'm afraid that was what you were going to say. A new battery is almost $1k, so I'd probably just buy a Nikola. :'( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planemo Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 If mine ever goes tits up there is a very skilled custom battery maker in the uk who I have used before for ebike batteries who I will send it to. Theres every chance he could do something with a failed bms, and he could certainly do something if it was just a duff cell or two. For the purposes of future reference its Jimmy at InSat International. I have no connections with him at all, other than I am confident he knows his stuff with batteries and isnt afraid of custom work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Girth Brooks Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 @Feynman I did end up buying a new battery. One side of my battery stopped being recognized by the BMS. It would not accept a charge via any method possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feynman Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 18 minutes ago, Girth Brooks said: @Feynman I did end up buying a new battery. One side of my battery stopped being recognized by the BMS. It would not accept a charge via any method possible. Thanks for the heads-up. The batteries seem to be very expensive; 2/3 the cost of a new Z10. I'm having some weird symptoms. Not sure if it's a bad cell (probably) or the motherboard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Girth Brooks Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 @Feynman this thread highlights the issue I had: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feynman Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 9 minutes ago, Girth Brooks said: @Feynman this thread highlights the issue I had: Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GyroRideRz Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 (edited) I think we will not have any Z10 pro, i'm pretty sure they've abandonned this project Edited October 18, 2019 by GyroRideRz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ir_fuel Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 On 9/18/2019 at 4:40 AM, Max Ramsey said: The reason manufacturers want to keep below 75V is to avoid falling under the EU Low Voltage Directive (LVD). This covers all electronics with DC voltages between 75V and 1500V. I couldn’t find any 84V Kingsong wheels that are CE certified in my brief research. https://ec.europa.eu/growth/sectors/electrical-engineering/lvd-directive_en KS16X is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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