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Looking at the hot topics right now it struck me how much we discuss poor build and design and (1st) batch bugs. 

So I though from the 2 wheels I have had I do see some smart solutions too. It is so easy to point at bad solutions, but my idea is to highlight smart things. 

I hope some here can see the point. I think it could spark new mods or ideas to fix those wheels that are less fortunate with innovation. 

But please don't turn this into brand vs brand. I will show example in next post. 

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A feature I simply love, lift cutoff motor. 

Inmotion V8: physical buttom in the lift handle. 

KS18L 1st batch: stress sensor when lifting wheel by handle. 

Both systems have pro cons, but the function is a must have in how I use my wheels. Once my KS18L got new stems and correct tension calibration it works like a charm. 

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Another feature, easy access to the tube valve. 

Again my Inmotion V8 had a little lid you could flip open. It works but I prefer the KS18L noncovered valve access. Much easier to spot and less cramped space of course it is a bigger wheel, yet I prefer the bigger build and easy access. 

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The Inmotion V5/V10 trolley handle, which are admittedly have a bit of slop. Internal trolleys require shifting of internal components, and most internal trolleys would not survive a crash if they are deployed when you lost control, for example if you thought you could trolley down a few steps but lost control. In contrast the external V5/V10 trolley actually protects the wheel during crashes and is easily and cheaply replaceable.

Without actually having seen the Gotway Nikola's external trolley, it's also probably have the same advantages, which of course probably why Gotway went to the external trolley.

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I know we have alarms, beeps, and tilt back but like on my little cordless 56v chainsaw battery pack, it has a little light that flashes yellow when ur straining it. If u keep it up, it will flash red for a few seconds before cutting off. 

Seems like s strobe mounted on top of our eucs when in cut off or burned up territory.

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36 minutes ago, novazeus said:

 

 Long time since your last post. I hope you are OK...

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1 hour ago, pico said:

 Long time since your last post. I hope you are OK...

Thanks for asking. Just did a lab wed and my psa was 0.5, same as Jan, and one tenth lower than the 0.6 I got in sept last year. Long ways from my first psa reading April 2014 of 35.4. Yeah, I was fucked!

I’m good. Full extract cannabis oil does kill cancer or at least it didn’t let cancer kill me in 90 days like my doctors told me it would April 2014.  

I read the forum quite a bit (self preservation), but i’m more of a curious person about euc and the personalities that ride them as opposed to being an enthusiast. While I admire the skills it takes to use an euc for regular travel, after spending 30k miles on motorcycles, between 2007 and 2010, ha ha, I would never leave the ranch on a euc, in Tampa, I wouldn’t ride a motorcycle. DOT I found out could care less about keeping the roads safe for motorcycles, much less an euc. I used to inline skate a lot too. Like 20 miles a night. When u see all the land mines that the government leaves in the road, oh my, the last time I skated on new roads, almost hit a spot where the government had done about a 4” core boring that they half assed patched that would bring down probably any euc made or rider, but hey, doesn’t give the cars and trucks problems.

God bless everybody that does ride an euc as an personal conveyance around cars and concrete. If I had to ride street on a euc, I would wear every protective garment and device I could find and drink three Red Bull’s before venturing out. That concrete, curbs, sidewalks etc is so hard and now with all the car drivers texting, fuck that. 

I don’t have the skills needed imho to venture out in public. I can stop fine, I hate starting without a crutch. I guess I should work on that but my ankles say no.

and I rarely leave the ranch. My vw  Touareg I bought last March has 1000 miles on it. I had to drive it on the interstate because the diesel particulate filter was clogged from non driving 

 

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5 hours ago, pico said:

Great, say Hi to Bob for me!

Bob says hi back!

Bob might be more of a cancer cure than cannabis oil, I know I sure do love him and he keeps me laughing. He is beautiful. Kinda getting plump. Hard to believe he’ll be 3 on 10-8. Still as sweet as can be. Might be getting close to 150 now.

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On 6/22/2019 at 4:19 PM, novazeus said:

would never leave the ranch on a euc, in Tampa, I wouldn’t ride a motorcycle. DOT I found out could care less about keeping the roads safe for motorcycles, much less an euc. 

9 out of the top 10 most dangerous cities for pedestrians are in Florida.

https://smartgrowthamerica.org/dangerous-by-design/

While also being by far the most dangerous to bicyclists.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-most-dangerous-place-to-bicycle-in-america-1537867800

Interestingly, the above article states texting and 45 mph arterial roads (called stroads) as the major culprits despite having a driving cell phone ban.

And finally, motorcylist are not neglected in Florida, being the 4th highest death rate per registered motorcycle; with the caveat that half of motorcyle fatalities are single rider crashes. In other words, while virtually all bicycle and pedestrian fatalities were caused by being hit by a driver, half of motorcyle crashes were due to losing control of the motorcycle.

Back to topic; I think extremely bright LEDs on the side of wheels is a positive trend, because the newer generation of wheels such as the V10 lights up the rider like nothing else, and being seen from a great distance allows drivers to avoid you. Now they might be enraged at you for slowing them down when getting to the next red light, but they can at least see you.

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2 hours ago, LanghamP said:

9 out of the top 10 most dangerous cities for pedestrians are in Florida.

https://smartgrowthamerica.org/dangerous-by-design/

While also being by far the most dangerous to bicyclists.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-most-dangerous-place-to-bicycle-in-america-1537867800

Interestingly, the above article states texting and 45 mph arterial roads (called stroads) as the major culprits despite having a driving cell phone ban.

And finally, motorcylist are not neglected in Florida, being the 4th highest death rate per registered motorcycle; with the caveat that half of motorcyle fatalities are single rider crashes. In other words, while virtually all bicycle and pedestrian fatalities were caused by being hit by a driver, half of motorcyle crashes were due to losing control of the motorcycle.

Back to topic; I think extremely bright LEDs on the side of wheels is a positive trend, because the newer generation of wheels such as the V10 lights up the rider like nothing else, and being seen from a great distance allows drivers to avoid you. Now they might be enraged at you for slowing them down when getting to the next red light, but they can at least see you.

Watching the local news with all the accidents and fatalities is not good for my already self induced paranoia using cannabis oil to keep cancer from killing me. 

I woke up to a phone call from a deputy sheriff Friday saying one of my cows was out on the road and between some helpful lady and the ag deputy and dot not maintaining their fences, manage to run her out on the interstate. That was fun at 830 am. I got her back in and nobody got hurt although she did try to gore me and one of the deputies twice. Pretty funny. Bob had fun.

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3 minutes ago, Eddie A. Steiner said:

Hey Novazeus, I live in the Tampa Bay Area, would love to get together and ride. Let me know.

thanks for the invite, but my answer is posted above. so no thanks.

i sold @RayRay my ks-16s last year and i know he rides around tampa.

if either of u decide to go longer range, i might sell my 18s locally.

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Moved back to SoCal...

I've been pretty busy, but managed to go on a few group rides. 

Summertime means I'm able to ride every other day here (unlike in Tampa).

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On 7/1/2019 at 6:58 PM, RayRay said:

Moved back to SoCal...

I've been pretty busy, but managed to go on a few group rides. 

Summertime means I'm able to ride every other day here (unlike in Tampa).

Cool, how’s the tank holding up?

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Today is an awfully nice day for a ride in Southern California 😎.

Sunny, not too hot, mild breeze along the coastline...

Makes me want an euc with a bigger "tank" (but I'll manage).

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So back to the topic of build quality, my daily driver is still a KS14C 840Wh which gets me to and from the DC Metro, plus some during-the-day commuting to different offices in DC. It has a sticker on it that says it was built on December 21, 2015. I use a Charge Doctor to avoid full charges on the battery and can still get a good 20 miles on that charge, although I normally top it off each night. It occurred to me that I have never had to open it up to fix anything during that time.

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