EUC World application & online service

[Chriull]

7 hours ago, Dubardo said:

Corrected the link

 

Works now!

You could also take a look at the "EUC Worl/logs" folder with a file browser.

You have maybe really some GB csv files? Maybe you logged the whole month without interruption?

30d * 24h * 3600s ~ 2.5Gsamples... for tour tracking and 3 samples per second while riding

You could also look at the euc world website hiw much logs of which site were uploaded.

[Dubardo]

EUC world Log is about 88mb for my whole 6 month history of a rider. Something is clearly uploaded, I doubt it's files, maybe some redundant updates or I don't know. Android doesn't have the tool to quantify the data usage.

Just checked I had about 3.29gb of pictures/video on my phone... It can't be my personnal data

Edited June 28, 2020 by Dubardo

[Coco66]

Now I start to get scared, despite using only 19Mb of mobile data - my rides I assume, I use live Tour Tracking - EUC World used 127Gb of WiFi in the last 30 days, and I am sure I stop the app every time, reboot daily (and I don't ride with EUC World every day).

For me it started in May, before that... almost nothing (27Mb in April).

The latest version came out May 1st... I suppose a bug of some sort.

Edited June 29, 2020 by Coco66

[EUC Custom Power-Pads]

For me it started around 25.03.2020 

That's only WiFi usage! 

I also quit the app with double click on back button and killing the App via app manager because of this unanswered problem:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited June 29, 2020 by buell47

[Chriull]

3 hours ago, buell47 said:

For me it started around 25.03.2020 

Wow!

The problem is forwarded to @Seba - but he's on a big euc tour by now.

I'm sure he'll get that fixed once he returns!

Or maybe it's already fixed in the beta version - there are changes in development in regard to logging/tour managment!

[Vellberger]

On 5/30/2020 at 3:42 PM, Artem Kuznetsov said:

Hello everyone.

I've just got my first EUC InMotion V8F.

It works well with the InMotion app, but I can't see any useful data in the EUC World app.

The only data I can see after the app is connected are Version and Serial Number.

I entered the PIN from my EUC manual - 000000.

Because I can see my EUC serial number and a firmware version in the app, I can assume the app is connected to the EUC.

But why I can't see any other data from my EUC in the app? What I am doing wrong?

Same as mine. Did you fix it yet?

Edited June 29, 2020 by Chriull
Remover triple quote

[Chriull]

8 minutes ago, Vellberger said:

Same as mine. Did you fix it yet?

Euc world support for v8f seems still to be on the todo list...

[Tazarinho]

Weird, I have used less than 700 Mb, mobile data  and WiFi combined, despite doing over 800 km of tour logging in the last month , as well as taking and uploading dozens of pictures and some vids through the app. I usually quit the app through the 'back' button and also swipe it away in latest used apps.

Edited June 29, 2020 by Tazarinho

[Struck]

I upgraded the other day to "premium" and now the automatic logging of my rides is not working. Even if I disable it and enable it again, it is not recording a thing

Any ideas? Anybody else? It doesn't work neither automatically nor manually

 

Cheers!

[travsformation]

9 minutes ago, Struck said:

I upgraded the other day to "premium" and now the automatic logging of my rides is not working. Even if I disable it and enable it again, it is not recording a thing

Any ideas? Anybody else? It doesn't work neither automatically nor manually

Cheers!

Upgrading to Premium shouldn't have any effect on tour recording. Was this function working correctly prior to this? Has anything changed in your phone's settings? 

Check this post and see if it helps:
 

 

[Struck]

It certainly did work before (we are talking about the 25th of June)

But now I am not sure whether it happened just when upgrading or when I clicked on "automatic recording" or what.. 

 

About what you are quoting. The app knows the initial position and I don't just press "record" and store it in my pocket, I look at the screen and after a couple of seconds the button shows that is not recording anymore, so the GPS/batterysaving settings didn't have the chance to kick in yet. Anyway I just checked and did the recording thing again and stops automatically

 

But I think I just discovered what is going on, I put the setting "stop" recording ASAP. and the "as soon as the wheel is disconnected" is not working since it stops the recording with the wheel connected

Edited June 29, 2020 by Struck

[Planemo]

OK I have a weird one too. My last ride was a big one and although EUCW recorded the entire journey, it was split into 2 trips (I think my phone ran out of battery halfway). So I did the old trick of downloading both files, deleted the logs and tours from EUCW website and my EUCW logs folder, added the raw data from the 2nd tour to the end of the 1st one in excel and then put the single file back into EUCW logs folder and patiently awaited it to load up onto EUCW website. It never did

So....I removed it from my EUCW logs folder and re-inserted the two original files so I was at least back to where I started, but they aren't loading up either. Wish I had just left it alone now cos I haven't got anything to show for my ride. I really wanted to keep that one as well. Anyone got any ideas?

[Coco66]

Well, anyway just putting the two files together is not working very well since many of the data elements are "progressive" and they would start from zero again at half tour. 

The map would look fine though.

I suspect that while @Seba is out on his looong tour something may have broken... you may have to wait for "The Man" to be back. 

Edited June 30, 2020 by Coco66

[travsformation]

4 hours ago, Coco66 said:

Well, anyway just putting the two files together is not working very well since many of the data elements are "progressive" and they would start from zero again at half tour. 

The map would look fine though.

I suspect that while @Seba is out on his looong tour something may have broken... you may have to wait for "The Man" to be back. 

Can't be on the app side, if nothing has been changed. And server-side, I've been using it daily with no issues.

To those having issues with tour recording, you can always have the app create logs instead and then create tours from your logs on euc.world

[Brendan "nog3" Halliday]

Just anecdotally I recorded a tour last night (my time) and it worked fine, you can see it at https://euc.world/tour/588002204823251

[Planemo]

Yeah, EUCW is normally rock solid for me and doesnt miss anything, I just wondered if something had changed server-side that denied the upload of data that had already been uploaded once. Kinda like the server 'knowing'. I know Seba never made it public knowledge that data could be manipulated, probably because it can be abused (idiots who may want to show they have covered more distance than they really have for example) so I would understand if he had changed something. Its just that it worked for me before but not now. Oh well lesson learned, I wont touch the data in future!

[Chriull]

9 minutes ago, Planemo said:

Its just that it worked for me before but not now. Oh well lesson learned, I wont touch the data in future!

As @Coco66 mentioned some data restart with every new log, like duration and distance. Also many calculated values as averages and maximas won't be really "correct" anymore.

Afai got it the eucw server takes "quite any" upload - to be seen in logs. Just some (with gps coordinates" are taken as tours.

One can delete previously uploaded from the server in the log section - @Planemo in case your two split logs were already uploaded. So if the server already has a log received with the same name, it could just not take another one...

If you merge the two logs be sure to give it the name (date and time) of the first log - this would imo be the easiest and most obvious "integrity" check to be done by the server.

Another culprit in your case could be, that the euc world app just remembers the last succesfull uploaded log internally and ignores older  (date/timestamp in csv filename?) logs.

For this you could try to "fake" a newer date/timestamp in the filename?

Together with repairing the duration and distance columns in the csv? When "repairing/merging" csv files in excel/libreoffice be sure to check the saved file! These programs "mess" up csv formatting (; and , instead of , and . depending on language settings, quoting columns with ", etc...)

Btw - when you merged the two log files you removed the header line from the second log? And to be on the safe side the column extra? This data is supposed to be only once at the beginning of the log.

... and all this bears the danger of messing up the internal data of the app or server. Maybe not to nice for the system, maybe a nice stress test for the system...

Best way to fix it would of course to directly contact @Seba - he'd know. If it's important enough to you and he has time do "manually" fix your split logs.

39 minutes ago, Planemo said:

know Seba never made it public knowledge that data could be manipulated, probably because it can be abused

As you experienced it's not easily possible everytime.

But as he announced the whole logging/tour system is in revision. This should involve a different way of storing the logs on the phone - more efficient and safe/secure. As well in regard to manipulation as also the seldom case whole logs were "lost". Csv should then only be available by export.

[Seba]

On 6/29/2020 at 8:37 AM, buell47 said:

For me it started around 25.03.2020 

That's only WiFi usage! 

As a workaround, please delete (or move to PC) all CSV logs from respective directory on the phone. Seems that some logs can't be processed on server side and they are resent each time synchronization service starts. This is the most probable cause of unusually high WiFi bandwidth usage. I will take a look at this issue an will fix it as soon as I'll return back home from my current EUC trip. 

[Planemo]

OK guys, I've been an idiot. Let this be a learning point for all of us who are ex Wheel Log users.....

So it started off OK. I pulled down the csv files that I wanted from EUC World 'logs' folder on my phone. I then went into EUCW website and deleted the relevant tours and logs. I then merged the 2 csv logs in excel then uploaded it back to my phone but in error put it into the Wheel Log 'logs' folder which was still on my phone (I had deleted the app some time back).

From then on everything went wrong as you can imagine because I continued to work with Wheel Log folder instead of EUCW folder!!! What really threw me was that when I did finally go back into the EUCW logs folder I saw the 2 original files sitting there but they hadn't 're-uploaded' to the EUCW website. Maybe the EUCW website 'knew' that they had already been uploaded previously so didn't do it again despite the fact that I had previously deleted the logs on the EUCW website. The fact they didn't re-upload really confused me but I guess it's a quirk of the server/system.

Anyway, luckily, the 2 original files had remained in my EUCW folder on my phone from the outset. So I just downloaded them to my PC again, deleted them from the phone, changed one digit on the filename just to be sure, put them back into my EUCW folder on my phone and voila! They have now uploaded to the EUCW website and are showing as both logs and tours.

So thankfully I am now back to where I started So a word of warning, remember to work with whatever folders are relevant to the app you are using (yes I know, I am probably the only idiot who has done this but thought I would say it).

I would still like to merge the 2 tours so I am going to give it a go again now that I know where I went wrong lol.

[Tazarinho]

Fore some reason, after logging out of the website, and logging back in, I can't see the list of my tours anymore! I think someone had a similar issue before and it was resolved, but can't seem to find it in this thread. It's both on my home and work pc, and on different browsers.

Is it something I could fix myself, or should I wait for @Seba to return?

 

[DuMONChIK]

It is not possible to create a tour for csv-files which size of more than 100-200 KiB.

Most of my csv-files have size from 2 to 8 MiB.

[Seba]

On 7/2/2020 at 11:44 AM, Tazarinho said:

Fore some reason, after logging out of the website, and logging back in, I can't see the list of my tours anymore! I think someone had a similar issue before and it was resolved, but can't seem to find it in this thread. It's both on my home and work pc, and on different browsers.

Is it something I could fix myself, or should I wait for @Seba to return?

I've fixed it. For some unknown reason there was no time zone information stored in database for this particular tour. Are you sure it was an EUC tour and not a space flight? 

[Seba]

EUC World 1.6 update will bring several new features, including completely reworked tour recording feature:

• tour recording will work completely offline, so no Internet connection will be required during a ride
• tours will synchronize automatically after Internet connection is available
• there will be an option to synchronize tours over WiFi only to avoid using cellular data plan
• in case of phone restart, app crash, termination etc. EUC World will detect interrupted tour recording and will ask if you want to continue tour recording or finish it
• tour map view will be improved
• in case of paused tour recording, there will be an option to automatically resume tour recording (in case you will continue riding and forget that you've paused recording)
• there will be tour options dialog window allowing to add/edit custom tour title, change tour visibility and other options on the fly

This new tour recording has been extensively tested during my 15 day, 2051 km EUC trip I finished yesterday. It proven to work flawlessly, allowing me to record tours in areas without cellular coverage. No gaps, no long straight lines, no missed pictures etc. My phone restarted once (due to water ingress during a ride in a heavy rain), other time EUC World app was accidentally terminated. In both cases I was able to continue interrupted tour recording what saved both my tours.

Because of this, creating tours from CSV logs will be removed after publication of 1.6 update. This feature was always meant as a workaround until offline tour recording will be introduced. Tour creation from CSV logs is prone to errors, as CSV format doesn't provide any means for integrity checking - it's just a plain text file.

[Will R]

Oh I can't say how long I've been waiting for improved and offline your tracking. As soon as my Pixel goes into battery saving mode, all my tours turn into big lines connecting the dots where I stood to check my phone. Thank you @Seba, you're doing God's work ❤️

[Seba]

31 minutes ago, Will R said:

Oh I can't say how long I've been waiting for improved and offline your tracking. As soon as my Pixel goes into battery saving mode, all my tours turn into big lines connecting the dots where I stood to check my phone.

Unfortunately offline tour recording won't solve this problem . You just have to disable battery saving / optimization for EUC World, allow EUC World to work in background and also allow GPS to work / be used by EUC World in background.