nickysneids Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 6 minutes ago, Seba said: For now I don't think it's possible. First, wheel doesn't transmit any information about alarms being active or not. Second, I don't really know exact alarm algorithm used by Gotway. If we could figure out the algorithm would it be possible? 6 minutes ago, Chriull said: Afaik GW wheels do not report alarms. The only wheel i've heard of reporting alarms was the inmotion (v8). So EUC world would have to make the same "calculations" as the wheel with the reported (speed, current and voltage) values. ... If this is possible (all necessary values reported (fast) enough?) ... and this should take some time and passion to empiricly study the behaviour of this 80% alarm? Afair sething like this was once discussed for KS wheels set an alarm according to the voltage dependend speed restriction? Which are reported/can be requested from the KS wheels? I've attached some pic's that demonstrate the way the Gotway wheels calculate max speed and therefore alarm based on battery. I'd be willing to do whatever I can to coordinate some communications between Gotway and @Seba or any app developer willing to gain some info on the algorithim. I don't have a ton of pull in the community but I care a lot about possibly figuring this out, it would be an incredibly advancement in the riding safety of Gotway users. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planemo Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 15 minutes ago, nickysneids said: If we could figure out the algorithm would it be possible? I've attached some pic's that demonstrate the way the Gotway wheels calculate max speed and therefore alarm based on battery. I'd be willing to do whatever I can to coordinate some communications between Gotway and @Seba or any app developer willing to gain some info on the algorithim. I don't have a ton of pull in the community but I care a lot about possibly figuring this out, it would be an incredibly advancement in the riding safety of Gotway users. Yes the GW linear battery/speed algorithm is about as simple as it gets and yes I did wonder how difficult (or not) it would be to implement this into EUC World but TBH I have never mentioned it to Seba because he has done an awesome job on the app, having spent God knows how many hours for very little financial recompense and quite frankly I didn't want to take the piss by suggesting even more work for him 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planemo Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 35 minutes ago, nickysneids said: So at the moment it looks like it's not even worth investing in any of these smart watch options if they don't emulate the Gotway alarm properly. I would have to disagree strongly on that. EUC World/Pebble combo provides excellent and valuable information which I refer to all the time. To have speed/battery/distance on your wrist is fantastic. Besides, I also do run EUC world alarms (set conservatively) just in case for whatever reason I don't hear the 80% GW alarm. No they are not ideal but it's still a backup. I would rather have a vibration on my wrist even though the GW alarm may not be triggering at that time, than not get/hear any warnings at all. My MSX on full battery triggers 3rd alarm at 36mph when lifted which is around 33mph when riding. So EUC world is set at: 32mph 100% battery 29mph 50% battery 26mph 20% battery As I say, these settings are conservative and from testing will usually trigger before the GW 3rd alarm does but I would rather that than something nasty happening. I can live with premature vibrations on my wrist better than broken bones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickysneids Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 9 minutes ago, Planemo said: I would have to disagree strongly on that. EUC World/Pebble combo provides excellent and valuable information which I refer to all the time. To have speed/battery/distance on your wrist is fantastic. Besides, I also do run EUC world alarms (set conservatively) just in case for whatever reason I don't hear the 80% GW alarm. No they are not ideal but it's still a backup. I would rather have a vibration on my wrist even though the GW alarm may not be triggering at that time, than not get/hear any warnings at all. My MSX on full battery triggers 3rd alarm at 36mph when lifted which is around 33mph when riding. So EUC world is set at: 32mph 100% battery 29mph 50% battery 26mph 20% battery As I say, these settings are conservative and from testing will usually trigger before the GW 3rd alarm does but I would rather that than something nasty happening. I can live with premature vibrations on my wrist better than broken bones That's a good point. I suppose it doesn't seem as worth it considering I don't have an android currently. But thanks for all of the info, this gives me some better ideas! 4 minutes ago, Planemo said: Yes the GW linear battery/speed algorithm is about as simple as it gets and yes I did wonder how difficult (or not) it would be to implement this into EUC World but TBH I have never mentioned it to Seba because he has done an awesome job on the app, having spent God knows how many hours for very little financial recompense and quite frankly I didn't want to take the piss by suggesting even more work for him Yeah I feel that. I just recently found out about the app and this whole thread so I guess I'm a new perspective, but I would definitely pay for an app that had this function, and probably donate to the R&D for it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Seba Posted February 1, 2020 Author Popular Post Share Posted February 1, 2020 HEAT MAP A new feature is now available at main euc.world page - a heat map. This shows "engine heat traces" of our EUCs It's based on fully anonymized data, with removed time/speed data and with spatial resolution reduced to several kilometers. In this way there is no risk to anyone's privacy, yet still we can see many interesting tours... like journey across Portugal, Spain, France, Belgium and Netherlands! 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post travsformation Posted February 1, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, Seba said: HEAT MAP A new feature is now available at main euc.world page - a heat map. This shows "engine heat traces" of our EUCs It's based on fully anonymized data, with removed time/speed data and with spatial resolution reduced to several kilometers. In this way there is no risk to anyone's privacy, yet still we can see many interesting tours... like journey across Portugal, Spain, France, Belgium and Netherlands! Nice, Seba! I've really been looking forward to this feature but have refrained from asking/insisting because I know you're a busy man I think this will also come in handy when traveling abroad, to know where the hottest spots are in a country for meeting up with other riders! (Something I was recently discussing with @UniVehje) BTW, is the data all-time? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Seba Posted February 1, 2020 Author Popular Post Share Posted February 1, 2020 20 minutes ago, travsformation said: Nice, Seba! I've really been looking forward to this feature but have refrained from asking/insisting because I know you're a busy man Actually this feature was done some time ago, so I just put things together to make it working 22 minutes ago, travsformation said: I think this will also come in handy when traveling abroad, to know where the hottest spots are in a country for meeting up with other riders! (Something I was recently discussing with @UniVehje) I also plan to add another feature to EUC World - community driven list of places where you can charge your wheel. Restaurants, pubs, petrol stations etc. I hope to start working on it after I finish Samsung watch support, so it will be ready well before spring riding season starts 25 minutes ago, travsformation said: BTW, is the data all-time? Yes, it's all-time data. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rehab1 Posted February 2, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 2, 2020 (edited) @Seba you are amazing at programming! Do you ever become frustrated with all your hard work? Edited February 2, 2020 by Rehab1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travsformation Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 15 minutes ago, Rehab1 said: @Seba you are amazing at programming! Do you ever become frustrated with all your hard work? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travsformation Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 17 hours ago, Seba said: I also plan to add another feature to EUC World - community driven list of places where you can charge your wheel. Restaurants, pubs, petrol stations etc. I hope to start working on it after I finish Samsung watch support, so it will be ready well before spring riding season starts Awesome!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UniVehje Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 17 hours ago, Seba said: I also plan to add another feature to EUC World - community driven list of places where you can charge your wheel. Restaurants, pubs, petrol stations etc. Excellent idea! I almost wish I'd have an android phone just to use this feature next summer. I'm planning to do some long distance riding through Europe. Your next feature could be a wheel sharing service for those who like to travel and for those who have multiple wheels. Like AirBnb for EUC. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKMotion Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 18 hours ago, Seba said: HEAT MAP A new feature is now available at main euc.world page - a heat map. This shows "engine heat traces" of our EUCs It's based on fully anonymized data, with removed time/speed data and with spatial resolution reduced to several kilometers. In this way there is no risk to anyone's privacy, yet still we can see many interesting tours... like journey across Portugal, Spain, France, Belgium and Netherlands! Yeah, that was a Dutch guy. Last summer he went from The Netherlands to Portugal on EUC! Nice to see his entire route on the heat map. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
360Nomad.life Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 19 hours ago, Seba said: like journey across Portugal, Spain, France, Belgium and Netherlands! Hi guys! Ye that's me hahaha. You can see some of the journey of FB https://facebook.com/360nomadlife 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Seba Posted February 2, 2020 Author Popular Post Share Posted February 2, 2020 12 hours ago, Rehab1 said: @Seba you are amazing at programming! Do you ever become frustrated with all your hard work? HAHAHAHA It's great! My wife requested me to put this photo on her laptop Windows desktop 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Seba Posted February 2, 2020 Author Popular Post Share Posted February 2, 2020 6 minutes ago, 360Nomad.life said: Hi guys! Ye that's me hahaha. You can see some of the journey of FB https://facebook.com/360nomadlife Really great challenge - respect! I love long distance riding. Actually, EUC World started to be my companion in long tours, providing me speech informations about tour progress, alerts and tour tracking. This year I plan to ride entire Green Velo trail (https://greenvelo.pl/en). It will be only half of your distance (~2000 km from map), but I'll only have two weeks to complete this journey. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UniVehje Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 6 minutes ago, Seba said: This year I plan to ride entire Green Velo trail (https://greenvelo.pl/en). It will be only half of your distance (~2000 km from map), but I'll only have two weeks to complete this journey. Sounds like a great plan. And thank you for informing me about this trail. If I get holidays fixed right, I'm planning to ride from Helsinki, through the Baltics and through Poland to south of Europe. No exact plan yet, but this trail might fit perfectly to my plans. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rehab1 Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 1 hour ago, Seba said: HAHAHAHA It's great! My wife requested me to put this photo on her laptop Windows desktop Thanks! Maybe she likes your new hair style. Your handsome either way. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seba Posted February 2, 2020 Author Share Posted February 2, 2020 51 minutes ago, UniVehje said: Sounds like a great plan. And thank you for informing me about this trail. If I get holidays fixed right, I'm planning to ride from Helsinki, through the Baltics and through Poland to south of Europe. No exact plan yet, but this trail might fit perfectly to my plans. I'll be glad to help you planning Polish segment 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ono Tomoki Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 Hi @Seba. I'm using the app everyday so thank you for great work! I have a question: Does King Song protocol allow control of each LED over bluetooth? My country's law says EUC must have direction indicator lights and braking indicator lights... I'm wondering if I can use my 18XL's built-in LEDs for that purpose. Is it possible? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seba Posted February 2, 2020 Author Share Posted February 2, 2020 18 minutes ago, Ono Tomoki said: Hi @Seba. I'm using the app everyday so thank you for great work! Thank you 18 minutes ago, Ono Tomoki said: I have a question: Does King Song protocol allow control of each LED over bluetooth? My country's law says EUC must have direction indicator lights and braking indicator lights... I'm wondering if I can use my 18XL's built-in LEDs for that purpose. Is it possible? You already have braking light in KS wheel. The only problem is with turn direction indication - there is no way to fully control LEDs behaviour. It's only possible to select from one of four modes and of course we can define color palette. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustChris Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 1 hour ago, Ono Tomoki said: My country's law says EUC must have direction indicator lights and braking indicator lights... Have you ever looked into a Lumos Helmet? I have the Lumos Matrix, and it's pretty cool. I attach the bluetooth turn signals to the back of my wristguards and it works well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travsformation Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Ono Tomoki said: My country's law says EUC must have direction indicator lights and braking indicator lights... Direction indicator lights? I'd never heard that as a requirement, anywhere, it's usually (in EU at least) reflective elements or front/rear light If that is indeed the case, do they forcibly have to be on the wheel? If not, there are remote-controlled helmets, vests and bicycle accessories you might be able to use Edited February 2, 2020 by travsformation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nilton Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 On 22/01/2020 at 04:36, Seba said: Passeios públicos são os passeios com visibilidade definida como "Visível para qualquer pessoa". Mas essa opção se aplica apenas a passeios iniciados manualmente. Se você ativar o rastreamento do tour automaticamente quando a conexão com a roda for estabelecida, seus passeios serão sempre rastreados no modo privado, independentemente dessa configuração. Isso serve para proteger sua privacidade caso você conecte inadvertidamente seu volante (por exemplo, seu EUC World será iniciado e você começará a carregar o volante King Song). Obviamente, você poderá alterar posteriormente a visibilidade de qualquer passeio ou excluí-lo permanentemente, como @The Fat Unicyclist e @Hansolo descritos. Lembre-se de que no menu do dispositivo móvel está disponível depois de tocar em três barras horizontais no canto superior direito do site. tks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrelwood Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 Haven’t followed this topic so I don’t know wether this is a known issue. The latest app version 1.06 advertises ”full Kingsong support”. However, it doesn’t support the 16S for speed settings, calibration, or firmware updates. Seems I can only control the lights and the riding mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seba Posted February 3, 2020 Author Share Posted February 3, 2020 1 hour ago, mrelwood said: The latest app version 1.06 advertises ”full Kingsong support”. However, it doesn’t support the 16S for speed settings, calibration, or firmware updates. Seems I can only control the lights and the riding mode. Some features of EUC World are not available for wheels made for domestic (Chinese) market. So if you bought your wheel from AliExpress, BangGood or similar seller, this may be the case. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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