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 To be clear I am not a fan of pitbulls. That said they can be very loving and loyal dogs. In fact their strong loyalty is often what gets them in trouble. It is best to have them as friends and not foes. 

  Last night a 40 pound female pitbull showed up on my door step. She seemed very friendly. I had just let my two Brittany spaniels out for last call on the restroom.  My dogs returned after 5 minutes with the pit in tow. We live in a subdivision that is out in the county. Most of the dogs here are friendly labs and other non aggressive breeds that get along. I checked her collar for a phone number and did not find one. I petted her and bid her a good farewell as I headed off to bed. The next morning I found her still on my front porch. Not wanting to encourage her to stay, I walked past her and headed off to work. 

  At 9am I got a call from my wife. She said that the pit had killed the next door neighbor’s Jack Russell terrier.  My wife said she had heard our neighbor screaming so she ran out and saw that the pit was ripping the Jack Russell’s throat apart. My wife got a fence picket and knocked the pit off the Jack Russell but it was too late. The pit ran back to our porch and curled up in the corner. She knows that she was a bad dog and I am sure that she is very sorry. The neighbors had called the authorities and the pit will be put down later today. The  pit is a very loving and loyal dog that simply does not know any better. It is very sad that dogs are bred with such power to kill and a heart that is so loving and caring. 

  So in the end two dogs that I cared about passed away today. 

  Unfortunately this is a common story in my area. Most stories are much worse. I know that  this could happen with almost any breed. In my area however, It is almost always a pitbull. 

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Aw man that's awful.  Sorry to hear about that.  Pitbulls have a bad rep unfortunately, and there's always something in the news about them attacking adults, kids, and other pets.  It's almost like having a mini pet Velociraptor.  Fun's fun until it injures or kills another living being.  Some animals just don't make for great pets.  Like hedgehogs.  Crazy carnivorous bunnies.  Hyenas.  Lions.  Aligators.

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But whose dog was it?

1 hour ago, Hunka Hunka Burning Love said:

Crazy carnivorous bunnies.

While we're on the topic, how's your little cable nibbler? Still uneaten?

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5 hours ago, RockyTop said:

 To be clear I am not a fan of pitbulls. That said they can be very loving and loyal dogs. In fact their strong loyalty is often what gets them in trouble. It is best to have them as friends and not foes. 

  Last night a 40 pound female pitbull showed up on my door step. She seemed very friendly. I had just let my two Brittany spaniels out for last call on the restroom.  My dogs returned after 5 minutes with the pit in tow. We live in a subdivision that is out in the county. Most of the dogs here are friendly labs and other non aggressive breeds that get along. I checked her collar for a phone number and did not find one. I petted her and bid her a good farewell as I headed off to bed. The next morning I found her still on my front porch. Not wanting to encourage her to stay, I walked past her and headed off to work. 

  At 9am I got a call from my wife. She said that the pit had killed the next door neighbor’s Jack Russell terrier.  My wife said she had heard our neighbor screaming so she ran out and saw that the pit was ripping the Jack Russell’s throat apart. My wife got a fence picket and knocked the pit off the Jack Russell but it was too late. The pit ran back to our porch and curled up in the corner. She knows that she was a bad dog and I am sure that she is very sorry. The neighbors had called the authorities and the pit will be put down later today. The  pit is a very loving and loyal dog that simply does not know any better. It is very sad that dogs are bred with such power to kill and a heart that is so loving and caring. 

  So in the end two dogs that I cared about passed away today. 

  Unfortunately this is a common story in my area. Most stories are much worse. I know that  this could happen with almost any breed. In my area however, It is almost always a pitbull. 

Sorry to hear about the dog. I have raised Pit bulls my entire life.

I have certainly had my share of adventures getting them to understand that other breeds simply don't like to play in the same way that pit bulls play.

With proper socialization pit bulls do come to understand and enjoy playing the way that other breeds enjoy playing. 

Just like any other breed they all have different personalities. I have owned some that would not attack/pit bull play with other dogs. I have owned some that would.

The only solution is to keep them separated from other breeds when they are prone to attacking another animal; don't take it for a walk in the local doggy park. 

I have own some that were as sharp as a tack, and others that were as dumb as a rock. One of the dummy's killed himself trying to swallow whole a pair of my jeans.

Got home from work and found him dead. Buried him in my backyard with the jeans hanging from his mouth and planted a tree. I later sold the house, and the tree grew up strong. 

Only one dog I owned was a people biter. I have owned many pits that were a threat to other animals. This is the only one I have ever owned that was a threat to people. This dog liked to sleep in the bedrooms with my children. Being a guard dog and all I preferred that it sleep in the common areas to protect our home; couldn't very well be of much use closed up in my kids room. One night when I called for the dog to leave the room after putting my kids to bed it decided to protest. The protest turned I to a test of wills, I moved to grab the dog by the collar and it bit down into my arm so hard that the pressure broke my wrist. I now viewed the dog as a threat to my family, and It turned into a fight. My kids and wife were upset and terrified. I was pissed beyond anything my family had seen before or has seen since. Later when I apologized to my wife for the dog scaring her. She responded that it wasn't the dog that scared her. I banged and pounded on the dog until it let go. I tossed it outside in the backyard.

My arm was swollen and bleeding profusely so my wife rushed me to the emergency room where I discovered that the arm was broken. I called animal control (dangerous animal brigade) to come and pick up the dog the next day. Tragic story for the dog; happy ending for me. 

I know better than to blame the breed; any dog is capable of attacking, and any breed with any size is a threat when they do attack. That was first time I had ever been bitten by a Pit Bull or any dog, and my family has owned Bulldogs exclusively since I was five years old. As an adult I have owned Pit Bulls exclusively as well; consistently until about six years ago when my busy lifestyle made me feel that it was impossible to properly care for an animal. 

I love animals, but I will allow no dog to challenge me for dominance in my home; that job belongs to my wife. 

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@Lutalo

Translation: yes, pitbulls are dangerous. Here's one that broke my arm that I had to kill.

It's almost always pitbulls that are aggressive to me in the park or on the street. It's always the THOT that's being dragged by three pitbulls who you gotta avoid. It's always the pitbull that you hear about a mauling.

Pitbulls are the SUVs of the dog world. You buy one because they are aggressive guard dogs and wanna give aggressive people around you pause before they mess with you. I got a pitbull, I want people to piss their pants when they be around me.

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On 4/12/2019 at 12:59 PM, meepmeepmayer said:

But whose dog was it?

While we're on the topic, how's your little cable nibbler? Still uneaten?

:furious:  It’s still alive.  Pooping like crazy and wanting to bite everything in sight.  I hear some bunnies aren’t as destructive.  I guess I lucked out and got one of the odd balls.  It’s soft and fluffy and cute, but man it’s got attitude sometimes.  If it doesn’t get its snacks it shreds up its cage paper and flips his waterbowl over like a disgruntled prisoner.  :rolleyes:  Not a good pet!

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20 minutes ago, Hunka Hunka Burning Love said:

If it doesn’t get its snacks it shreds up its cage paper and flips his waterbowl over like a disgruntled prisoner.

:laughbounce2:

I guess since you took it prisoner, that makes sense:P

Would be interesting to do take a rabbit born in captivity and a rabbit caught in the wild (like yours), put them together in a cage, and see what happens. Different ways of growing up = different behavior? Bunny psychology!

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I only have one and a half rabbits.

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On 4/12/2019 at 4:01 PM, RockyTop said:

 To be clear I am not a fan of pitbulls. That said they can be very loving and loyal dogs. In fact their strong loyalty is often what gets them in trouble. It is best to have them as friends and not foes. 

  Last night a 40 pound female pitbull showed up on my door step. She seemed very friendly. I had just let my two Brittany spaniels out for last call on the restroom.  My dogs returned after 5 minutes with the pit in tow. We live in a subdivision that is out in the county. Most of the dogs here are friendly labs and other non aggressive breeds that get along. I checked her collar for a phone number and did not find one. I petted her and bid her a good farewell as I headed off to bed. The next morning I found her still on my front porch. Not wanting to encourage her to stay, I walked past her and headed off to work. 

  At 9am I got a call from my wife. She said that the pit had killed the next door neighbor’s Jack Russell terrier.  My wife said she had heard our neighbor screaming so she ran out and saw that the pit was ripping the Jack Russell’s throat apart. My wife got a fence picket and knocked the pit off the Jack Russell but it was too late. The pit ran back to our porch and curled up in the corner. She knows that she was a bad dog and I am sure that she is very sorry. The neighbors had called the authorities and the pit will be put down later today. The  pit is a very loving and loyal dog that simply does not know any better. It is very sad that dogs are bred with such power to kill and a heart that is so loving and caring. 

  So in the end two dogs that I cared about passed away today. 

  Unfortunately this is a common story in my area. Most stories are much worse. I know that  this could happen with almost any breed. In my area however, It is almost always a pitbull. 

So sorry to hear that my friend.

I know exactly what's alike...

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3 hours ago, LanghamP said:

Translation: yes, pitbulls are dangerous. Here's one that broke my arm that I had to kill.

If you believe pit bulls are dangerous that's cool with me; I don't see the point in debating beliefs. However, I don't share your belief that pit bulls are dangerous. I am saying simply that the dog that bit me and broke my arm was dangerous; that's all. 

All dogs can breeds can be properly socialized in the right hands. What happened with me has happened only once and it happened to be a pit bull because that is my preferred breed of dog to keep. My niece was mauled by a German shepherd and a Rottweiler at the age of seven. She is now an adult and has had many reconstructive surgeries throughout her life resulting from that terrible incident. A dangerous animal is a dangerous animal. Danger is not breed specific; it is animal specific. Any big dog with big teeth can be dangerous enough to deform a child's face for life. 

Due to their reputation for being tough, pit bulls end up often in the wrong hands, and are subjected to untold abuses and unfair media attention as a result.

When I was growing up in the 70's German Shepherds, and Doberman Pinschers were almost always the dogs involved in maulings; because in those days, these two breeds were the most popular "tough" dogs. My dog companion even then was a pit bull; no one even really knew what a pit bull was back then.

Back then a pit bull to the general public knowledge was the equivalent to an EUC today. I was known as the boy with the "little rascals" dog; because my dog resembled "Petey", the Pit Bull from the show The Little Rascals. I know of no incidents with maulings growing up that involved Pit bulls, and the vilification to which they are subjected today was unheard of because at that time criminals and other assorted idiots preferred dobermans, rottweilers, Huskies, and German Shepherds. The Pit Bull was the cute dog on the RCA record label, the Little Rascals show, and the Marine Corps Mascot "Corporal Dog." 

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7 hours ago, Lutalo said:

If you believe pit bulls are dangerous that's cool with me; I don't see the point in debating beliefs. However, I don't share your belief that pit bulls are dangerous. I am saying simply that the dog that bit me and broke my arm was dangerous; that's all. 

All dogs can breeds can be properly socialized in the right hands. What happened with me has happened only once and it happened to be a pit bull because that is my preferred breed of dog to keep. My niece was mauled by a German shepherd and a Rottweiler at the age of seven. She is now an adult and has had many reconstructive surgeries throughout her life resulting from that terrible incident. A dangerous animal is a dangerous animal. Danger is not breed specific; it is animal specific. Any big dog with big teeth can be dangerous enough to deform a child's face for life. 

Due to their reputation for being tough, pit bulls end up often in the wrong hands, and are subjected to untold abuses and unfair media attention as a result.

When I was growing up in the 70's German Shepherds, and Doberman Pinschers were almost always the dogs involved in maulings; because in those days, these two breeds were the most popular "tough" dogs. My dog companion even then was a pit bull; no one even really knew what a pit bull was back then.

Back then a pit bull to the general public knowledge was the equivalent to an EUC today. I was known as the boy with the "little rascals" dog; because my dog resembled "Petey", the Pit Bull from the show The Little Rascals. I know of no incidents with maulings growing up that involved Pit bulls, and the vilification to which they are subjected today was unheard of because at that time criminals and other assorted idiots preferred dobermans, rottweilers, Huskies, and German Shepherds. The Pit Bull was the cute dog on the RCA record label, the Little Rascals show, and the Marine Corps Mascot "Corporal Dog." 

I'm fully agree to what you've said @Lutalo.

I love dogs, but to love dogs you need to understand their nature, and not confuse them with human beings - it's always happen!

I'm not willing to dig any deeper to the subject,but I wish to share only my single thought, if you don't mind friends...

I could compare owning the dogs, especially those capable of showing their great power, to the guns.

To me the gun are used in good will, for example cops saving our lives, soldiers protecting our countries etc., but the same guns are used opposite too, to kill the others.

Living with the dog is living with responsibility,it always should be of GOOD friendship and animal being socialised.

Unfortunately there is other aspect involved - the mental health.

We shall not forget the dogs are living creatures with great emotionality, like we humans.

If they're born with some mental issues,they might be eager to behave irrational, and olso they do remember and carry bad and good feelings...

I believe at some cases of attack, the dogs might reminded some bad situation from their past that we've got no clue about it...

The dog can't tell what caused the attack, we're blaming the dog, but he might suffer harm in his past, and he did attack basing on his bad experience from its past...

Sorry...

Just few thoughts.

It's only my very personal point of view, so please don't take it any different.

Best regards.  

 

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2 hours ago, PogArt Artur said:

I'm fully agree to what you've said @Lutalo.

I love dogs, but to love dogs you need to understand their nature, and not confuse them with human beings - it's always happen!

I'm not willing to dig any deeper to the subject,but I wish to share only my single thought, if you don't mind friends...

I could compare owning the dogs, especially those capable of showing their great power, to the guns.

To me the gun are used in good will, for example cops saving our lives, soldiers protecting our countries etc., but the same guns are used opposite too, to kill the others.

Living with the dog is living with responsibility,it always should be of GOOD friendship and animal being socialised.

Unfortunately there is other aspect involved - the mental health.

We shall not forget the dogs are living creatures with great emotionality, like we humans.

If they're born with some mental issues,they might be eager to behave irrational, and olso they do remember and carry bad and good feelings...

I believe at some cases of attack, the dogs might reminded some bad situation from their past that we've got no clue about it...

The dog can't tell what caused the attack, we're blaming the dog, but he might suffer harm in his past, and he did attack basing on his bad experience from its past...

Sorry...

Just few thoughts.

It's only my very personal point of view, so please don't take it any different.

Best regards.  

 

I absolutely. We have a past shapes how we think and and respond and so to do animals; dogs more specifically. 

A dog that has suffered abuse from humans is more likely to bite humans. The dog that bit me was already an adult dog when I received it; I took it on because it was already housebroken. I have never run afoul of any dog that I have raised from a puppy. 

It is a shame to blame an animal for abuses that it may suffered at the hands of humans, because only animal will suffer.

There are no resocialization programs of which I am aware for abused animals who's "danger" is more than likely a defense mechanism. An animal that bites a human will be killed/euthanized. If there was such a resocialization program (assuming reasonable cost), I would have tried it with this animal. 

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2 hours ago, Lutalo said:

I absolutely. We have a past shapes how we think and and respond and so to do animals; dogs more specifically. 

A dog that has suffered abuse from humans is more likely to bite humans. The dog that bit me was already an adult dog when I received it; I took it on because it was already housebroken. I have never run afoul of any dog that I have raised from a puppy. 

It is a shame to blame an animal for abuses that it may suffered at the hands of humans, because only animal will suffer.

There are no resocialization programs of which I am aware for abused animals who's "danger" is more than likely a defense mechanism. An animal that bites a human will be killed/euthanized. If there was such a resocialization program (assuming reasonable cost), I would have tried it with this animal. 

Again - fully agree.

We're talking in here about dogs, but the same scenario is regarding wild animals getting mad...

Elephants for example...

They are very intelligent, having their social life in the family...

Taken away, kept in captivity, risen by random people, carring the luggage of good and bad memories ...

Sometimes their mind gives up, they getting mad...

Ressocialisation can be very good, unfortunately I think once the dog had crossed the line, he knows it's possible to go that far, so I believe, that even after successful ressocialisation, I would keep a "third" eye on that dog ever after...

To me it's like prisoner...

After released, after ressociaisation, he knows the "bad" already, he may commit the crime again - if that makes a sense.

Again - it's only my personal thoughts, not to be followed or anything else.

Respect!

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On 4/12/2019 at 2:59 PM, meepmeepmayer said:

But whose dog was it?

Update. The pit had a chip and owner was identified. The owner was charger with reckless endangerment and a law suite has been filed for the death of my neighbors dog. The pit has been sent to an out of state rescue and temperment easement center at the owner expense. The owner will not get the pit back but the pit has a chance at a future..

The jack russell (Diasy) was a birthday gift to a 5 year old girl that is now 15

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11 hours ago, RockyTop said:

Update. The pit had a chip and owner was identified. The owner was charger with reckless endangerment and a law suite has been filed for the death of my neighbors dog. The pit has been sent to an out of state rescue and temperment easement center at the owner expense. The owner will not get the pit back but the pit has a chance at a future..

The jack russell (Diasy) was a birthday gift to a 5 year old girl that is now 15

Sorry to hear about the dog that was killed. Glad the bulldog will be given a chance to one day find a new home with a new social understanding. 😂👍

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19 hours ago, RockyTop said:

Update. The pit had a chip and owner was identified. The owner was charger with reckless endangerment and a law suite has been filed for the death of my neighbors dog. The pit has been sent to an out of state rescue and temperment easement center at the owner expense. The owner will not get the pit back but the pit has a chance at a future..

The jack russell (Diasy) was a birthday gift to a 5 year old girl that is now 15

Sad story indeed...

Once happen, no chance to reverse the time...

Thanks for info @RockyTop.

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