Electric Unicycle Wins Over a Big Onewheel Enthusiast

[Jimmy Chang]

I've been a huge Onewheel fan. I travel with my Onewheel. I blog about the Onewheel. I make YouTube videos about the Onewheel. Well, I just got my first EUC and after the initial steep learning curve, I have admit that I am really impressed! This thing is AWESOME! I'm looking forward to getting more experience on my EUC but I can totally see why people love this thing. Any people here switch over from the Onewheel? Any EUC riders thinking of getting a Onewheel? The experiences are both unique in their own regard, but I love the range, power, and smoothness of the EUC ride.

Check out my vlog/experience here: 

 

Edited March 28, 2019 by Jimmy Chang

[Marty Backe]

You are most definitely not the only Onewheel rider here. It does seem like the natural progression would be for Onewheeler's to move into EUCs for the added range, speed, and a whole host of other reasons.

Welcome aboard  

[Jimmy Chang]

4 minutes ago, Marty Backe said:

You are most definitely not the only Onewheel rider here. It does seem like the natural progression would be for Onewheeler's to move into EUCs for the added range, speed, and a whole host of other reasons.

Welcome aboard  

Thanks Marty! Man, how many wheels do you own?!  I thought I had a problem after I bought my 4th Onewheel. Now I've got some catching up to do! 

[Marty Backe]

19 minutes ago, Jimmy Chang said:

Thanks Marty! Man, how many wheels do you own?!  I thought I had a problem after I bought my 4th Onewheel. Now I've got some catching up to do! 

Yeah, some people around here think I have a problem, but I don't see it 

BTW, I just started hooking up with the Los Angeles Onewheeler's. I'll be doing more rides with them.

 

[Michael Vu]

13 minutes ago, Marty Backe said:

Yeah, some people around here think I have a problem, but I don't see it 

BTW, I just started hooking up with the Los Angeles Onewheeler's. I'll be doing more rides with them.

 

Love the music!

[Michael Vu]

1 hour ago, Jimmy Chang said:

I've been a huge Onewheel fan. I travel with my Onewheel. I blog about the Onewheel. I make YouTube videos about the Onewheel. Well, I just got my first EUC and after the initial steep learning curve, I have admit that I am really impressed! This thing is AWESOME! I'm looking forward to getting more experience on my EUC but I can totally see why people love this thing. Any people here switch over from the Onewheel? Any EUC riders thinking of getting a Onewheel? The experiences are both unique in their own regard, but I love the range, power, and smoothness of the EUC ride.

Check out my vlog/experience here: 

 

Welcome to the world of EUCs! You're going to have more Onewheelers to EUCs than the other way around with EUCs being more versatile than OneWheel. Same goes for people riding traditional e-skateboards and moving to EUCs. OneWheels are still very fun and will have their place for recreational, but an EUC is the most efficient and best form factor for actual real world transportation.

[Jimmy Chang]

9 minutes ago, Michael Vu said:

Welcome to the world of EUCs! You're going to have more Onewheelers to EUCs than the other way around with EUCs being more versatile than OneWheel. Same goes for people riding traditional e-skateboards and moving to EUCs. OneWheels are still very fun and will have their place for recreational, but an EUC is the most efficient and best form factor for actual real world transportation.

Thanks Michael! In the OW world, EUCs get knocked because the forward facing stance is not as cool and there's a perception that EUCs are less fun. It will be interesting to see what I think as I go on this EUC journey. 

[houseofjob]

@Jimmy Chang Welcome! LOL, did Onewheel banning you push you over to our side? 

FYI, there are more Onewheel to EUC convert stories on the EUC reddit I believe, albeit it's a bit dead on there compared to this forum.

[Marty Backe]

2 minutes ago, Jimmy Chang said:

Thanks Michael! In the OW world, EUCs get knocked because the forward facing stance is not as cool and there's a perception that EUCs are less fun. It will be interesting to see what I think as I go on this EUC journey. 

I'll be interested in hearing (maybe a video) what you think after you've been riding for a while. Your perspective will be unique.

Not much to say regarding the stance, but the "not as fun" part is a head scratcher. I can go on 4-hour rides without charging, climb 5000-foot mountains, ride single-track trails  in the flatlands or in the mountains, ride on the beach and in the ocean (I do at least on beach ride through the water every year), carve up a storm, etc., etc.

I think the Onewheel is fun and I'm toying with the idea of getting the Pint. But I feel that the Onewheel is much more limited in its fun factor.

[Jimmy Chang]

Just now, Marty Backe said:

I'll be interested in hearing (maybe a video) what you think after you've been riding for a while. Your perspective will be unique.

Not much to say regarding the stance, but the "not as fun" part is a head scratcher. I can go on 4-hour rides without charging, climb 5000-foot mountains, ride single-track trails  in the flatlands or in the mountains, ride on the beach and in the ocean (I do at least on beach ride through the water every year), carve up a storm, etc., etc.

I think the Onewheel is fun and I'm toying with the idea of getting the Pint. But I feel that the Onewheel is much more limited in its fun factor.

After watching your YT videos, I think you will be disappointed by the limited range and speed of the Pint given your EUC experience. I'd borrow and try an XR if I were you.

Yeah, the EUC gets a fair amount of disrespect from some in the OW community, even Future Motion. Don't know if you saw their teaser cartoon ad for the Pint where they dog on the unicycle. Not cool. 

[Marty Backe]

1 minute ago, Jimmy Chang said:

After watching your YT videos, I think you will be disappointed by the limited range and speed of the Pint given your EUC experience. I'd borrow and try an XR if I were you.

Yeah, the EUC gets a fair amount of disrespect from some in the OW community, even Future Motion. Don't know if you saw their teaser cartoon ad for the Pint where they dog on the unicycle. Not cool. 

I did see one Pint video by a guy that got an early look. I'll have to look for the official trailer.

The reason that I would get the Pint is that I know I'm not going to use a Onewheel for distance riding. It would be for literally fun around my town, grab a sandwich, that kind of stuff.

[Jimmy Chang]

6 minutes ago, houseofjob said:

@Jimmy Chang Welcome! LOL, did Onewheel banning you push you over to our side? 

FYI, there are more Onewheel to EUC convert stories on the EUC reddit I believe, albeit it's a bit dead on there compared to this forum.

Houseofjob... so you know the backstory drama between Future Motion and me. Ha! Well, I've moved past that. I apologized. They gave me terms to follow before they would grant me forgiveness. I complied. They never got back to me. Now I'm back to just making videos and focusing on having fun and making videos. I'm done with the drama. But there will be more EUC videos on the way!

[Marty Backe]

6 minutes ago, Jimmy Chang said:

After watching your YT videos, I think you will be disappointed by the limited range and speed of the Pint given your EUC experience. I'd borrow and try an XR if I were you.

Yeah, the EUC gets a fair amount of disrespect from some in the OW community, even Future Motion. Don't know if you saw their teaser cartoon ad for the Pint where they dog on the unicycle. Not cool. 

Post the link here if you can - I think we'd get a friendly kick out of seeing it.

[Jimmy Chang]

1 minute ago, Marty Backe said:

Post the link here if you can - I think we'd get a friendly kick out of seeing it.

 

[kasenutty]

 

6 minutes ago, Jimmy Chang said:

EUCs get knocked because the forward facing stance is not as cool and there's a perception that EUCs are less fun. It will be interesting to see what I think as I go on this EUC journey. 

I'm a lifelong skateboarder and I have never been interested in the Onewheel. Self balancing on a skateboard is a pretty limited platform. It just doesn't make sense for bumps, carving transition etc.. It's also slow and has a bad range. I rode by one on my wheel once but they were going slow and looked confused so I just kept going. 

I have a couple skateboarder friends with electric skateboards, but no actual skater friends that ride Onewheels. 

 

[fryman]

1 hour ago, Jimmy Chang said:

I've been a huge Onewheel fan. I travel with my Onewheel. I blog about the Onewheel. I make YouTube videos about the Onewheel. Well, I just got my first EUC and after the initial steep learning curve, I have admit that I am really impressed! This thing is AWESOME! I'm looking forward to getting more experience on my EUC but I can totally see why people love this thing. Any people here switch over from the Onewheel? Any EUC riders thinking of getting a Onewheel? The experiences are both unique in their own regard, but I love the range, power, and smoothness of the EUC ride.

Check out my vlog/experience here: 

 

Very fun to watch a new rider, great job!  So were the large pedals included or was that an extra?

[Jimmy Chang]

1 minute ago, kasenutty said:

 

I'm a lifelong skateboarder and I have never been interested in the Onewheel. Self balancing on a skateboard is a pretty limited platform. It just doesn't make sense for bumps, carving transition etc.. It's also slow and has a bad range. I rode by one on my wheel once but they were going slow and looked confused so I just kept going. 

I have a couple skateboarder friends with electric skateboards, but no actual skater friends that ride Onewheels. 

 

I was just in Seattle last week and I saw an EUC to Onewheel ratio of 5:1. Very surprised. I have only seen a few EUCs in the wild here in Denver.

[houseofjob]

2 minutes ago, Jimmy Chang said:

Houseofjob... so you know the backstory drama between Future Motion and me. Ha! Well, I've moved past that. I apologized. They gave me terms to follow before they would grant me forgiveness. I complied. They never got back to me. Now I'm back to just making videos and focusing on having fun and making videos. I'm done with the drama. But there will be more EUC videos on the way!

LOL, I only know of the fact that it happened, in my searches and salivating over the Onewheel (which I will one day own once they come to their senses and up the performance spec to 25mph at least!)

Cool, I always enjoy the point of view of guys coming from other PEV, looking forward to watching!

 

10 minutes ago, Jimmy Chang said:

Yeah, the EUC gets a fair amount of disrespect from some in the OW community, even Future Motion. Don't know if you saw their teaser cartoon ad for the Pint where they dog on the unicycle. Not cool. 

 

1 minute ago, kasenutty said:

I'm a lifelong skateboarder and I have never been interested in the Onewheel. Self balancing on a skateboard is a pretty limited platform. It just doesn't make sense for bumps, carving transition etc.. It's also slow and has a bad range. I rode by one on my wheel once but they were going slow and looked confused so I just kept going. 

I have a couple skateboarder friends with electric skateboards, but no actual skater friends that ride Onewheels. 

It's more snowboard IMHO, about edging.

I would reserve judgement until you actually try IMHO, my limited trial of the OW+ was actually really fun/enjoyable. Obviously the speed & range aren't there yet of course.

[houseofjob]

1 minute ago, Jimmy Chang said:

I was just in Seattle last week and I saw an EUC to Onewheel ratio of 5:1. Very surprised. I have only seen a few EUCs in the wild here in Denver.

Seattle is the land of Inventist/Solowheel for years now, so that makes sense (they are partnered up now with the US outfit of InMotion as well).

[LanghamP]

I've ridden a few times with OneWheelers, and tried out a OneWheel more than a few times now (one of my neighbors got one). Everything about them is fine except for their range, as they have about 7-16 miles of range. Basically you spend all your time recharging at coffee shops which isn't a bad thing.

I can see a lot of people on this forum getting one once Gotway and Kingsong come out with an 840wh version for $1100.

Edited March 28, 2019 by LanghamP

[Jimmy Chang]

11 minutes ago, fryman said:

Very fun to watch a new rider, great job!  So were the large pedals included or was that an extra?

Thanks fryman! The large pedals were included, yes. So were some wrist guards. Very pleased with the purchase.

[Michael Vu]

30 minutes ago, Jimmy Chang said:

Thanks Michael! In the OW world, EUCs get knocked because the forward facing stance is not as cool and there's a perception that EUCs are less fun. It will be interesting to see what I think as I go on this EUC journey. 

I understand the "not as cool" part since our culture views riding sideways as you do on a skateboard to be "cool" while riding straight and upright as you would a regular unicycle or standing Segway as stupid. For me though I look at it more as snowboarding vs snowskiing, both equally as "cool" looking and equally as fun to do.

But in the end I don't give a rats ass what people think about how I look as I ride. I just let the wheel do the talking by riding faster, riding longer, turning tighter, riding in rougher terrain, riding up steep hills, jumping off curbs, etc, etc, etc. They are all (at least not the stubborn ones) in complete awe when they see all that. Even just pulling out the trolley handle leaves them in awe. It's part of the reason why I ride in Non-EUC groups such as OneWheel, eskateboards, and even bicycle groups..... just to demonstrate that this thing we ride ain't some silly toy that you pick up in the toys section at Wal-Mart.

[Smoother]

I skimmed all responses so far but didn't see any reference to the following.

In your video, you state it will cruise at 22mph.  But in reality it will top out at 35kph (21.7mph)  If you get close to that speed you will get tiltback.  I would say a safe comfortable cruise for the 16S is 20mph max.

You also stated the range is 40 miles.  I'm not sure what the factory claims in km by it equates to around 27 miles  27 miles is 43.74km so maybe that is where you heard 40 (something)

Other than that, great video, you picked it up really quickly.  Love your one legged hop-alongs, hilarious, but also very skillful.

One more thing.  Get that thing charged up before you do any more riding, or you will face plant due to a voltage sag and motor shut down.  I've owned a 16S for nearly 1500km and I've never had the battery that low.

Edited March 28, 2019 by Smoother

[Jerome]

If economies of scale ever allow it, the OW XR at ~ PINT prices, and a performance model at  ~ current XR prices,  would make inroads into E-boards and EUC markets. The main problem with the OW is it really doesn't have a maximum speed of 19 mph, but ~ 15 mph.  Skilled (daredevil) riders ride passed the push back but I can't stand riding anywhere near pushback so that is a definitely a deal buster. The PINT is a good step in the direction of it not looking so DIY. There will always be a small hard core of OW enthusiast, it remains to be seen whether Future Motion is happy with that or wants to "cross-over" to other markets. 

For the record Jimmy, I think OW totally over reacted to your mild "let-down" post. I watch your videos and of course the master Slydog. I hope the "cult of OW" doesn't literally become one. Welcome to the EUC world and this forum, where everyone agrees on everything and never an disparaging word it said.

[Girth Brooks]

Fucking dead laughing thinking about how anyone could assume a OneWheel is better than an EUC in any fashion given the specs of the top tier versions of both. To each their own I guess. Hahahah!!