RagingGrandpa 630 Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 (edited) If you have a private garage, the most practical one I've found is below. $180 shipped (USA). Put it in the garage so the smoke doesn't destroy the interior of your home. If you notice a fire starting, roll it out the door. If you're not home, your garage gets smoky but not fiery. https://www.sevilleclassics.com/ultrahdr-2-door-rolling-lockable-storage-cabinet-28-w-x-18-d-x-34-5-h-granite-gray.html Edited January 14 by RagingGrandpa showing URL Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Unventor 6,351 Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 (edited) 30 minutes ago, RagingGrandpa said: If you have a private garage, the most practical one I've found is below. $180 shipped (USA). Put it in the garage so the smoke doesn't destroy the interior of your home. If you notice a fire starting, roll it out the door. If you're not home, your garage gets smoky but not fiery. I wonder how that would look at @Marty Backe place? It probably be a US continental freight train equivalent 😉 Edited January 14 by Unventor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Zopper 303 Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 (edited) A proper cabinet vented outside would be amazing, but for now, I'm going on with a fire blanket permanently covering the wheel. The wall it is next to is from bricks, the floor concrete and with the blanket on, the fire has no chance of get nearby of anything flammable except an extension power cord - but those should be from a fire retardant plastics. Smoke... that's a risk I have to live with. I think this is a very easy and cheap solution available to plenty of people. It's not the best solution, but <insert your proverb about partial but applied solutions being better than an ideal one that's not implemented> Edited January 14 by Zopper Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tawpie 357 Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 (edited) Just get a shipping container! They're remarkably cheap, roomy, and from the eWheels pictures are proven effective at containment... the boat didn't catch on fire. Myth Busters did most all of their fire stuff in one. Homeowners association and landlord opinions aside of course. Edited January 14 by Tawpie Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GothamMike 148 Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 1 hour ago, RagingGrandpa said: If you have a private garage, the most practical one I've found is below. $180 shipped (USA). Put it in the garage so the smoke doesn't destroy the interior of your home. If you notice a fire starting, roll it out the door. If you're not home, your garage gets smoky but not fiery. Link? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hal Farrenkopf 76 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 On 1/14/2021 at 11:53 AM, Tawpie said: Just get a shipping container! They're remarkably cheap, roomy, and from the eWheels pictures are proven effective at containment... the boat didn't catch on fire. Myth Busters did most all of their fire stuff in one. Homeowners association and landlord opinions aside of course. I thought of that too. They now make a smaller shipping container. https://www.atscontainers.com/en/Products/New-containers/Product/8-New-Mini-Container Quote Link to post Share on other sites
conecones 14 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 For anyone concerned with the enclosure melting, you can add some cheap fire-rated drywall (gysum board) and/or paint the inside with intumescent paint (also fairly cheap for non-commercial grade).https://www.homedepot.com/p/Firetect-WT-102-1-gal-White-Flat-Latex-Intumescent-Fireproofing-Flame-Retardant-Paint-Coating-for-Wood-102W-1/307899625 This paint goes on thin but expands quickly in a fire and is used commonly on architecturally exposed structural steel or wood to achieve fire resistance. It may even help if you applied this paint on the inner shell/battery packs. Won't stop the fire necessarily but may buy you some extra time to throw it outdoors. Ideally, it'll contain the thermal runaway to one battery pack and prevent the second (or more) from igniting. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rich Sam 121 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 1 hour ago, conecones said: For anyone concerned with the enclosure melting, you can add some cheap fire-rated drywall (gysum board) and/or paint the inside with intumescent paint (also fairly cheap for non-commercial grade).https://www.homedepot.com/p/Firetect-WT-102-1-gal-White-Flat-Latex-Intumescent-Fireproofing-Flame-Retardant-Paint-Coating-for-Wood-102W-1/307899625 This paint goes on thin but expands quickly in a fire and is used commonly on architecturally exposed structural steel or wood to achieve fire resistance. It may even help if you applied this paint on the inner shell/battery packs. Won't stop the fire necessarily but may buy you some extra time to throw it outdoors. Ideally, it'll contain the thermal runaway to one battery pack and prevent the second (or more) from igniting. Great idea! Here is a project I found to build a "Battery bunker" cinder blocks with gypsum cement board you will have to upscale the idea but seems sound. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RagingGrandpa 630 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 19 minutes ago, Hsiang said: https://cellblockfcs.com/ Hey neat! A dry media that's as effective as water, but lighter than sand. 'As effective as water' probably won't hold true for batteries assembled into an EUC- the cellblock media won't be able to get inside the shell, so the cells will always have some room to 'breath' and keep evolving heat... but at least all that violence would be happening deep in a bed of absorbent media. And the plastics and tire won't be allowed to keep burning. It presents a lot of practical challenges for putting out a fullsize EUC on fire: you may need more than 10 gallons of media to completely envelop a burning EUC... but using this inert dry media might be attractive for the trap-door automatic dispensers we've discussed. No water damage, no leak hazard. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GothamMike 148 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 On 1/15/2021 at 6:31 PM, Rich Sam said: Great idea! Here is a project I found to build a "Battery bunker" cinder blocks with gypsum cement board you will have to upscale the idea but seems sound. This would prevent a fire from leaping between PEVs as well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tryptych 268 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 On 10/21/2018 at 7:59 PM, Thai-lad said: A Tesla auto has 50 or 75 times the battery storage capacity of a typical 1kw EUC. And they're shipping almost 1000 of them daily. So I'll worry about my EUC batteries when I start hearing stories of hundreds of garages spontaneously combusting all over the US. You're more likely to get struck by lightning while riding Good point, worth repeating. Keep things in perspective; don't worry about this much more than you worry about getting struck by lightning. With that said having a fire safety plan can't hurt, I keep a large fire blanket by my wheels, and an extinguisher, but I don't spend much time worrying about it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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