acevalsl Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 is v1.09 stable version? only with new Kingsong app someone update and test?? thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrelwood Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Brick alert! A lot of failed upgrades reported from the new app. Who’s brave enough to try? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rywokast Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 (edited) im pretty sure that firmware isnt very new, my 16s is on it and has been since i purchased that particular one like six months ago.. though i have never used this new app, i use the orange and white app Edited March 8, 2019 by Rywokast 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e_kjellgren Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 Im in the same position, 1.08 on the wheel and 1.09 in the new app. Still holding off. Has anyone seen a list of fixes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrelwood Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 On 3/8/2019 at 6:29 AM, Rywokast said: im pretty sure that firmware isnt very new, my 16s is on it and has been since i purchased that particular one like six months ago.. though i have never used this new app, i use the orange and white app I think I saw the same with my 16S in 2017, that the supplied firmware wasn’t available for mobile upgraders until at a later time. I still use the green app on mobile! I always update the app on an iPad first to check it out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fat Unicyclist Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 I just tried this to see what happened... I got the prompt to upgrade from v1.08 to v1.09 I checked the notes - they only showed changes up to v1.07 I applied the upgrade But the wheel still shows as being on v1.08 … It isn't bricked though, it just isn't upgraded. Unless v1.09 still shows as v1.08 once applied? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rywokast Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, The Fat Unicyclist said: I just tried this to see what happened... I got the prompt to upgrade from v1.08 to v1.09 I checked the notes - they only showed changes up to v1.07 I applied the upgrade But the wheel still shows as being on v1.08 … It isn't bricked though, it just isn't upgraded. Unless v1.09 still shows as v1.08 once applied? I think the new app is just weird lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fat Unicyclist Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 I think the term is "bedding in". 1 hour ago, Rywokast said: I think the new app is just weird lol I think the term is "still bedding in". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e_kjellgren Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 (edited) I went ahead and upgraded mine, the behaviour is strange though. It goes to 100%, the wheel starts in a continius beep until I shut it off. After that it still shows 1.08. Tried it again, and this time without that beeeeeeep. 100% success but still 1.08. Ahh well.. Edited March 10, 2019 by e_kjellgren Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dzlchef Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 I’m not feeling all warm and fuzzy about upgrading the app. Not sure why I would if the wheel still works fine? I don’t need additional challenges in my life today. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Morales Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 (edited) Guys, I updated to 1.09 and noticed two very strange things. First, the good stuff, when braking the wheel tilted back automatically something I actually liked a lot. Second thing I noticed, the wheel is leaning forward a lot when moving forward, crazy ugly stuff, even with small bumps might throw you off. And when I say it might throw you off, I mean you might move 2 cm (1 inch) forward and then you can't f*ck1ng brake! Third, not that important but still of matter, the angle at which the motor is disabled is now tighter, meaning when I stop in some traffic like and play with the wheel with one foot one, the wheel might switch off. To switch back on you much get it up straight 100%. Fully vertical. I get it wont switch off when riding, But I would like to switch off this sensor completely. I know never gonna happen. Then, just because of the second issue I tried to recalibrate the wheel. Some unknown shit happened there, It got calibrated once, I cannot recalibrate. And then suddenly the braking behaviour is NOT present now, but I still feel the wheel leaning forward a LOT. I will check the wheel fw version on the app. Since the update process was completed I did't check fw version on the app, I thought It would update successfully. Edited March 11, 2019 by Tony Morales Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rywokast Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Tony Morales said: Guys, I updated to 1.09 and noticed two very strange things. First, the good stuff, when braking the wheel tilted back automatically something I actually liked a lot. Second thing I noticed, the wheel is leaning forward a lot when moving forward, crazy ugly stuff, even with small bumps might throw you off. And when I say it might throw you off, I mean you might move 2 cm (1 inch) forward and then you can't f*ck1ng brake! Third, not that important but still of matter, the angle at which the motor is disabled is now tighter, meaning when I stop in some traffic like and play with the wheel with one foot one, the wheel might switch off. To switch back on you much get it up straight 100%. Fully vertical. I get it wont switch off when riding, But I would like to switch off this sensor completely. I know never gonna happen. Then, just because of the second issue I tried to recalibrate the wheel. Some unknown shit happened there, It got calibrated once, I cannot recalibrate. And then suddenly the braking behaviour is NOT present now, but I still feel the wheel leaning forward a LOT. I will check the wheel fw version on the app. Since the update process was completed I did't check fw version on the app, I thought It would update successfully. that sounds horrible... mine definitely does not do any of that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Morales Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 (edited) It appears that the wheel did not upgrade to 1.08. What happened (not 100% yet but it's the most possible), is that the firmware upgrade process reset the calibration setting. I am starting a new thread to ask for help with the behaviour of KS16-S. Edited March 19, 2019 by Tony Morales Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unventor Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 This seems similar to what I post a few days back for my KS18L and firmware 1.11 to 1.12 (if I recall versions right). The update is more or less the same firmware version hench you don't see version number increase. What it did was to improve new gen app commuting with the wherl. In the process my wheel got that standing on an inflatable bed sensation. Or like balancing on a surfboard as wave passes near waterline without breaking. Solution was to calibrate the wheel. It is not as firm as I recall it but it could just be a mind trick. But I like how it feels now. My inmotion v8 was much worse in this matter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e_kjellgren Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 App got updated and now it shows latest firmware is 1.08 and the wheel is up to date! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoother Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 (edited) On 3/19/2019 at 5:51 PM, Unventor said: Solution was to calibrate the whee This is correct. Some how your calibration has gone out of whack during the upgrade. There are several threads knocking about right now about calibration. Key point. Wheel has to be 100% level left to right before and during the process, or ALL of the strange behavior wont go away. Don't believe me? ask @seage Edited May 2, 2019 by Smoother 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fryman Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 Updated to 1.09 yesterday. Does anyone know how to leave the led lights on, so they show the battery level when you stop? I can only either have the led lights on or off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie D Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 I upgraded yesterday as well. No problems, and it fixed a few things Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rywokast Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 7 hours ago, fryman said: Updated to 1.09 yesterday. Does anyone know how to leave the led lights on, so they show the battery level when you stop? I can only either have the led lights on or off. can't.. either a light show or no lights at all.. I like the addition of the no lights at all but it was idiotic to get rid of the battery display only option.. it was probably a mistake I think it will come back in the next fw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrelwood Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 6 hours ago, Stevie D said: I upgraded yesterday as well. No problems, and it fixed a few things May I ask which things it fixed for you? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie D Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 Yes, I couldn't unlock speed after switching phones/app. Couldn't get the "green" app too work on my phone, so tried other apps. They wouldn't let me change speed settings. Updated firmware, and as soon as I turned on the blue app, a window popped up asking if I want to unlock. All other aspects and characteristics of the wheel remained the same. No problems 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post wozphil Posted April 21, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 21, 2019 On 4/8/2019 at 4:15 PM, fryman said: Updated to 1.09 yesterday. Does anyone know how to leave the led lights on, so they show the battery level when you stop? I can only either have the led lights on or off. If you want the battery level and no light show, you can simply activate light show and set all 4 colors to "black". It worked for me. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
null Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 (edited) I accidentally upgraded the firmware to 1.9 using the iOS app 1.3, and the calibration did indeed reset. This should almost be a sticky post for the time being, as it is a bit annoying to have to redo, not counting all the people who won't understand their wheel got weird. Also, it seems front / back has to be level, but also to the sides? If you don't have a good water level I suggest pulling out the handle and hanging the wheel (with a rope eventually) so that gravity makes it level. The inner weight distribution seems fairly symmetric. Edited April 30, 2019 by Mimolette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blank Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 (edited) 16 hours ago, Mimolette said: I accidentally upgraded the firmware to 1.9 using the iOS app 1.3, and the calibration did indeed reset. This should almost be a sticky post for the time being, as it is a bit annoying to have to redo, not counting all the people who won't understand their wheel got weird. Also, it seems front / back has to be level, but also to the sides? If you don't have a good water level I suggest pulling out the handle and hanging the wheel (with a rope eventually) so that gravity makes it level. The inner weight distribution seems fairly symmetric. Yeah it should ideally be placed exactly vertical. I did a improper calibration with the wheel tilted against a wall and felt my pedals dipping when I went into turns. Also use my phone as a level to check the angle. Edited May 1, 2019 by Blank 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoother Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 On 4/30/2019 at 9:36 AM, Mimolette said: Also, it seems front / back has to be level, but also to the sides? If you don't have a good water level I suggest pulling out the handle and hanging the wheel (with a rope eventually) so that gravity makes it level. The inner weight distribution seems fairly symmetric. This is not correct. Half of the calibration process is choosing a preferred pedal tilt angle for the rider. For this reason front to back angle can be anything you desire during the calibration process, within reason. Side to side level is still critical though. Any accurate level or level app, placed so that it measures accurately side to side is enough, no need for water levels and hanging from the ceiling. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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