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FIRST RIDE on the GOTWAY NIKOLA!!

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So they also think you are crazy?  Have to give you kudos for being so fearless and risking your body to find the limits of these devices.  Keeps your videos entertaining.  Keep it up!

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Cool video. Interesting to see to who this wheel will appeal. This design attempt from GW, while admirable still falls short of KS wheels in terms of refinement and versatility. Things that struck me where: The handle on the top is too fat when not using the ponytail; KS has the best design. Not sure why they copied Inmotion instead of KS on this. It looks very big and heavy for a 16" wheel; bigger than the V10F and even the 18L.

It also struck me as sort of gaudy. don't see them winning over KS 16S, 18XL or MSX fans; especially, in light of the new 16X on the horizon. It will be interesting to see who they draw besides hoarders/collectors. Possibly, current owners of the Tesla?

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The good news is that every new wheel I see is a wheel I want to get. I feel each new wheel is a significant improvement over the previous newly released wheel. While I suspect all new wheels use essentially the same motor with the same batteries, the interpretation of each manufacturer differs significantly. For a while back there, about two years, we had wheels that looked like they were converging on a single form factor, but recently with the figure 8 KS18xl, the motorcycle Z10, the outside handle V10, the Ceylon MCM5, and now the pinball Nikola, we are seeing radically different interpretations of EUCs.

One is tempted not to buy any new wheels until development has settled down.

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Huh. That wheel really says "Hello world look at me!" It would be excellent for night riding shots in a city with a few people all lit up like an xmas tree. If you could light that up in a nice pure white lighting at night it might look amazing. As to the rest, 2000w motor, 1600wh batt, standard issue these days. The flip up handle is ok, if it's made to last.

 

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11 hours ago, KujiRolls said:

I thought about the reasons why Gotway would design the Nikola and ive come to admire them even though it is not designed for riders like me. Gotway now has the: 

  1. Smallest decent wheel (10" mten3)
  2. Largest wheel (22" monster)
  3. Every other god damn size wheel
  4. [and now] the brightest and loudest wheel 

What's with the handle?  With the trolley/scorpion tail up, is it actually two little handles?  It does not look ergonomic at all.  The whole shell just looks bulky, dated and, maybe coincidentally, simple and cheap to produce.  Throw a ton of lights on there to make up for it.  Is there some huge group of 12 year old kids they are trying to appeal to?  It has less heavy-duty electronic components too?  And now they've tacked a Gotway emblem on the back,  two more on the sides, plus the two by the pedals, and then one under each pedal?  Jesus.

 

Your sentiment begs the question:  What kind of rider are you?  Who are they designing this for?

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On 2/3/2019 at 1:32 PM, Lutalo said:

Cool video. Interesting to see to who this wheel will appeal. This design attempt from GW, while admirable still falls short of KS wheels in terms of refinement and versatility

When I saw a video of the Nikola being dissassembled, the amount of time and the amount of screws that had to be removed and everything else JUST to get access to the tire tube had me going "wtf, why do you design it so complicated".

It's not like it can't be made simpler, the video on Jason's site showing a tire change on the kingsong 16s shows it can be much simpler and even watching that video I could think of several ways that it could be improved, I expect the ks16x will be similar if not better since it appears kingsong thinks about these things, but being able to remove a handful of screws, undo a couple wire connections and slip off the whole she'll as one piece without having to intrude into the controller board bay or split the shells is a much superior method imo, especially if you ever want to have these wheels ip water resistance rated and be able to maintain that water resistance after minor maintenance.

I wish gotway would put a bit more thought into ease of minor maintenance tasks like king song clearly has done.

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1 minute ago, Heyzeus said:

When I saw a video of the Nikola being dissassembled, the amount of time and the amount of screws that had to be removed and everything else JUST to get access to the tire tube had me going "wtf, why do you design it so complicated".

It's not like it can't be made simpler, the video on Jason's site showing a tire change on the kingsong 16s shows it can be much simpler and even watching that video I could think of several ways that it could be improved, I expect the ks16x will be similar if not better since it appears kingsong thinks about these things, but being able to remove a handful of screws, undo a couple wire connections and slip off the whole she'll as one piece without having to intrude into the controller board bay or split the shells is a much superior method imo, especially if you ever want to have these wheels ip water resistance rated and be able to maintain that water resistance after minor maintenance.

I wish gotway would put a bit more thought into ease of minor maintenance tasks like king song clearly has done.

Attempting to design a sexy wheel is a new adventure for adventure for GW. If the Nicola is an MSX/Tesla cross, it is only because it fails at being a suitable KS18L/V10F cross; GW ain't ready for that yet.

It is great that they are pushing themselves in this direction; to make a better all-arounder. Hopefully, it's part of an overall plan to push themselves to be better. We will see. Niki won't be winning any beauty contests, but they got the all the bling contests on lock :D

Whuzzup with that wide-assed pass-through handle at the top though; baffling. Like, for whose friggin hands were they made; Shaquile O'Neal? Yao Ming? :wacko:

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Would chicks be more likely to own such a wheel?

Right now, in the US, it feels like 99% is 35+ years old males.

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12 hours ago, LanghamP said:

Would chicks be more likely to own such a wheel?

Right now, in the US, it feels like 99% is 35+ years old males.

Only cuz gurls be gittin skayurd 2 eezee.-_-

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14 hours ago, LanghamP said:

Would chicks be more likely to own such a wheel?

Right now, in the US, it feels like 99% is 35+ years old males.

Hmmm.... personally, not so much my taste.  I perfer the matte black of my KS-18XL.  I find dark/reflective plastics show scratches and damage more easilily, though they look really great when brand new.  

I do like the digital voltage display, and would welcome more information displayed such as error codes, tire pressure, and remaining battery power.  In app parameters is fine, but an onboard display is convenient.

Thanks for the great video KujiRolls.  Grad you didn't get hurt on that tumble.

 

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On 2/4/2019 at 10:46 AM, Meelosh123 said:

What's with the handle?  With the trolley/scorpion tail up, is it actually two little handles?  It does not look ergonomic at all.  The whole shell just looks bulky, dated and, maybe coincidentally, simple and cheap to produce.  Throw a ton of lights on there to make up for it.  Is there some huge group of 12 year old kids they are trying to appeal to?  It has less heavy-duty electronic components too?  And now they've tacked a Gotway emblem on the back,  two more on the sides, plus the two by the pedals, and then one under each pedal?  Jesus.

 

Your sentiment begs the question:  What kind of rider are you?  Who are they designing this for?

You know I was thinking the same thing about the handle, but if you look in the video one of the riders was actually sitting on it. So maybe they intend for it to have a seat cushion. Maybe??

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It definitely is a, hey look at me, type of wheel which is appealing to a lot of people.  I know tons of EUC riders whether they admit it or not like the look at me, reaction EUC riding generates in many situations, including myself.

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1 minute ago, Duf said:

It definitely is a, hey look at me, type of wheel which is appealing to a lot of people.  I know tons of EUC riders whether they admit it or not like the look at me, reaction EUC riding generates in many situations, including myself.

I'll admit it.:P

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On 2/4/2019 at 11:46 PM, Meelosh123 said:

What's with the handle?  With the trolley/scorpion tail up, is it actually two little handles?  It does not look ergonomic at all.  The whole shell just looks bulky, dated and, maybe coincidentally, simple and cheap to produce.  Throw a ton of lights on there to make up for it.  Is there some huge group of 12 year old kids they are trying to appeal to?  It has less heavy-duty electronic components too?  And now they've tacked a Gotway emblem on the back,  two more on the sides, plus the two by the pedals, and then one under each pedal?  Jesus.

 

Your sentiment begs the question:  What kind of rider are you?  Who are they designing this for?

Well, id say that im an enthusiast/explorer who thinks everything is better with a unicycle. 

As for target user... im not sure. This wheel is heavy on eye and ear candy. Two things that are lower on my list than performance and convenience. It would probably perform well in group rides providing a light show with heavy beats. Maybe Gotway doesnt know who the target market is and is like "hey, were just gonna throw this out there and see what happens"

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