Good winter helmet? 🥶 Experience with TSG Pass helmet in winter?

[Darrell Wesh 1,401]

2 hours ago, Unventor said:

I can add to my old post. I keep using my TSG Pass helmet despite it is cold. 

I found with visor a bit open of full open I prefer this over my MC helmet. 

I use a baklava (ski/"rubbers" mask) to keep warn. Today I just picked up 2 new baklava. One made of microfibers other of cutton. 

I have written to TSG I would like them to move from the dual D lock to a fidlock (magnetic system) and they make a visor that has pinlock. But never got any reply. But there are 3 things that makes the TSG Pass my preferred helmet. 

AerodynamicS

Field of vison

Light weight. 

This is how it looked today on my lunch ride. 

 

Do you ride motorcycles? That klim Carlsbad outfit and the rest of your gear cost more then your v11 !

[ShanesPlanet 3,168]

44 minutes ago, Darrell Wesh said:

Do you ride motorcycles? That klim Carlsbad outfit and the rest of your gear cost more then your v11 !

Still cheaper than 1 night in a hospital and I'd venture that his Klim suit will outlast 10 v11's. At least thats how Im fooling myself into justifying a $1500 MC suit. Of course, I ride bikes (as does Unventor) and its just a mere drop in the bucket.

[longjohnsally 13]

2 hours ago, Scottie888 said:

"In the deep freeze, one would sweat lots when even riding their sleds semi aggressively & venting is huge for comfort. The helmet do come with a windstopper liner for more heat retention on lazy rides."

Good point.  I thought the other advantage of a snowmobile helmet would be the breather box to keep your breath moving away from your goggles/face shield.  Have you had any issues in cold weather with yours?  I notice you live in Calgary so I would defer to your experience 

[longjohnsally 13]

5 hours ago, AtlasP said:

Nice helmet except for the lightning bolt front and center like a wannabe superhero. Looks like you can customize all the colors--wonder if selecting the same color for the base and logo make it completely disappear or how visible it would still be.

Ha!  I think the lightning bolt is fun.  The fact that you can completely customize the colors is quite a perk, and the rest of the helmet stylings are fairly clean looking.  My concern with the Avitar is more about safety.  It states that it meets the safety requirements of the International Downhill Federation (IDF), but when I looked up the IDF site I wasn't overly impressed.  Not sure how much weight this safety rating actually carries.  

[Scottie888 456]

1 hour ago, ShanesPlanet said:

Still cheaper than 1 night in a hospital and I'd venture that his Klim suit will outlast 10 v11's. At least thats how Im fooling myself into justifying a $1500 MC suit. Of course, I ride bikes (as does Unventor) and its just a mere drop in the bucket.

Don't know if its cheaper than a night's stay at the hospie (we get universal health care here in Socialist Canada) but for sure, its gonna be way less misery than any hospital visit. Unless one's dying, triage can be hours & hours & .... of misery. & No you're not fooling yourself with the Aero suit. Infact tis the opposite. FWIW to my eyes, the 'stich suit looks better than the Klim 😉

38 minutes ago, longjohnsally said:

Good point.  I thought the other advantage of a snowmobile helmet would be the breather box to keep your breath moving away from your goggles/face shield.  Have you had any issues in cold weather with yours?  I notice you live in Calgary so I would defer to your experience 

Hmmm honestly I have not used the F5 in sub zero weather as I found it too cooling. I use the Schubert C3pro modular FF moto helmet instead. Its got the pinlock antifog visor & almost eliminates fogging with a breather box. If you're planning to use a snow/mx helmet for winter, make sure you get snow goggles. The dual pan lens helps in this regard.

Back when I snowmobiled, I used a regular moto type helmet with an electric defroster visor. Now that works no matter the temp.

[Unventor 6,196]

4 hours ago, Darrell Wesh said:

Do you ride motorcycles? That klim Carlsbad outfit and the rest of your gear cost more then your v11 !

Nope but as I sold my car I needed to be able to ride in any weather. I looked at the benafits to me using the mc suit and decided it is worth it to me. 

It is fairly fast and easy to put on my gear. And once in the mc suit I have all protection zones on beside helmet and wrist guards. 

I ride these days without wrist guards when wearing gloves. In summer time I mostly have a smal set of wrist guard on. 

But the real benafit of the klim suit is the goretex properties and how ventilation is made. So even in rain I don't get wet on the inside. Onlt when it gets really hot here I use a set of knee guard instead on the mc pants. 

By buying this gear I have all weather solution for all seasons. I ride geared up 100% of the time compared to be for it was maybe 80% of the time. Also I am more visual in traffic so cars behave differently. 

So bottom line is it works for me. So the 1250$ it cost me was worth it. I have had 2 accidents where I got injured but it could have ended worse if 3jad not geared up. But I also found that despite being geared up I could have done better and the luck I had with the outcome I might not have in the next accident. I hope it doesn't happen but I treat it as it will happen. Others might have their opinions. But I am sure @GothamMike understand my point of view. And weather in my area changes a lot and it is something wearing the right clothing it is a non issue. 

[ShanesPlanet 3,168]

4 minutes ago, Unventor said:

Nope but as I sold my car I needed to be able to ride in any weather. I looked at the benafits to me using the mc suit and decided it is worth it to me. 

It is fairly fast and easy to put on my gear. And once in the mc suit I have all protection zones on beside helmet and wrist guards. 

I ride these days without wrist guards when wearing gloves. In summer time I mostly have a smal set of wrist guard on. 

But the real benafit of the klim suit is the goretex properties and how ventilation is made. So even in rain I don't get wet on the inside. Onlt when it gets really hot here I use a set of knee guard instead on the mc pants. 

By buying this gear I have all weather solution for all seasons. I ride geared up 100% of the time compared to be for it was maybe 80% of the time. Also I am more visual in traffic so cars behave differently. 

So bottom line is it works for me. So the 1250$ it cost me was worth it. I have had 2 accidents where I got injured but it could have ended worse if 3jad not geared up. But I also found that despite being geared up I could have done better and the luck I had with the outcome I might not have in the next accident. I hope it doesn't happen but I treat it as it will happen. Others might have their opinions. But I am sure @GothamMike understand my point of view. And weather in my area changes a lot and it is something wearing the right clothing it is a non issue. 

I stand corrected. I wrongfully assumed you were also a motorcyclist. Apologies for that, however you're losing cool points by the minute bro!

Edited January 9 by ShanesPlanet

[Unventor 6,196]

4 hours ago, ShanesPlanet said:

Still cheaper than 1 night in a hospital and I'd venture that his Klim suit will outlast 10 v11's. At least thats how Im fooling myself into justifying a $1500 MC suit. Of course, I ride bikes (as does Unventor) and its just a mere drop in the bucket.

I don't ride mc. But you are spot on about my line of thinking that it will outlast more wheels. So it was a long team investment for me. And there is so many details in this mc suit that fits my needs that once I decided cost wasn't an issue it was very easy choice to hit buy. At the time it was 10% discounted too. 

[Unventor 6,196]

3 minutes ago, ShanesPlanet said:

I stand corrected. I wrongfully assumed you were also a motorcyclist. Apologies for that, however you're losing cool points by the minute bro!

I don't ride mc because of the cost combined with weather and honesty I don't have the ball to ride at those speeds and have that amount of power. I don't have anything against mcs. But my needs are solved on my EUCs. It has been transforming going up to and after I decided and sold my car back in October. Any right not is the test if I can do all year only on EUCs. Here is my feedback to TSG an important part too. Because this is where I miss out in my gear. 

As for cool points. It isn't a driver for me. But let's just say I have people approach me with questions about EUCs because they got the impression it is serious yet they view it as risky. And many are mc rides. They dare not do what I do. Riding now in snowfall and sun zero C temp adds to the risk factor in many ways. So far it works out pretty good with the V11, klim mc suit and TSG pass helmet (and this last bit is what the thread is all about) this in my 2nd winter using TSG Pass). Now should it get below - 10C I will switch up to my mc ff helmet I mentioned above as it is warmer and the pinlock system is so much better for anti forging system on the visor. 

[Dreygun 48]

11 hours ago, longjohnsally said:

Good point.  I thought the other advantage of a snowmobile helmet would be the breather box to keep your breath moving away from your goggles/face shield.  Have you had any issues in cold weather with yours?  I notice you live in Calgary so I would defer to your experience 

I was thinking of ordering a breath box to see if it fit inside the tsgpass, but they're all so different in size and shape. I didn't want to get stuck not being able to return afterwards. I think the problem with the tsgpass antifog design is that the helmet fits comfortably when the chin is lower, just where it tends to go to. So your mouth is above the breather trap strip of foam. I also notice in a lot of youtube videos, guys are wearing the helmets way too large where almost their full mouth is exposed theough the visor opening 

Edited January 9 by Dreygun

[AtlasP 1,315]

 

9 hours ago, Dreygun said:

I also notice in a lot of youtube videos, guys are wearing the helmets way too large where almost their full mouth is exposed theough the visor opening 

I always hear about TSG Pass fog problems and yet have never had it happen to me a single time. I guess I got lucky and my size fits me & my head shape well and/or I'm wearing it correctly such that the foam breath trap works? I've definitely seen a lot of people wearing what is clearly not the right size for them and/or with the chin part of the helmet too far down/well below their actual chin (so they're breathing directly on the visor).

Edited January 10 by AtlasP

[Dreygun 48]

21 minutes ago, AtlasP said:

 

I always hear about TSG Pass fog problems and yet have never had it happen to me a single time. I guess my size fits me & my head shape well and/or I'm wearing it correctly such that the foam breath trap works? I've definitely seen a lot of people wearing what is clearly not the right size for them and/or with the chin part of the helmet too far down/well below their actual chin (so they're breathing directly on the visor).

Yup exactly. I ordered a large because the measurement on site was correct, but I think I could fit into a Medium and have the breath trap sit more where it should. Could be headshape as well, cos I can lift chin up and breath trap is in correct spot, but it just feels more comfy a bit down, I don't know lol

[Unventor 6,196]

9 hours ago, Dreygun said:

So your mouth is above the breather trap strip of foam. I also notice in a lot of youtube videos, guys are wearing the helmets way too large where almost their full mouth is exposed theough the visor opening 

Well it is partly true. But it is designed to go faster than I do most of the time. And mostly for summer time as it main target user is DH longboarders.