Popular Post tihoa Posted February 1, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted February 1, 2019 (edited) *EDIT: I'm changing this post into a long term review* I just got a pair of Flatland 3D E-Skate gloves, they have a newer version out right now: full fingered, wrist protection, one single velcro strap, and it's super easy to pick up my wheel with. Gonna try them out tomorrow For anyone interested, the sizing preference is to go 1 down. I wear a large in Fox, Hillbilly, etc. and I got mine in medium: The first pair I got was bad. The stitching fell apart upon first use. I was using the strap to put my gloves on and off. I never pulled at the cuff directly. Apparently other people online have experienced the same issue and an email to Flatland3D got them a pair from an updated batch. I will give that a try. Flatland 3D sent me a new pair which looks like it has better stitching. On my own accord I reinforced just the right glove to compare how it will hold up in the long term. I did the same reinforcement on the first "bad pair" and I will wear those until they break to see how they hold up. I really like the fit of these gloves, it makes operating my zippers and phone super easy. The one velcro strap system makes them a breeze to put on and off. The quality of the initial "bad pair" is totally suspect though, it feels like a sports glove from the sports section at Walmart. Let's see how long they last before I switch over to the newer gloves. 1 Month Update: the original "bad pair" has fallen apart. The stitching has come apart at the thumb! I heard a rip while I was taking them off today. And the other thumb is totally frayed up with the tactile bits falling off, I believe this is from me operating the velcro strap when putting the gloves on and off. I only put about a dozen miles a week on the unicycle so it's not like I'm wearing these gloves for more than 30 minutes at a time. I have also never taken a fall with these gloves, just the normal lifting of the EUC off the stand, opening doors, operating zippers, and using my phone. The reinforced stitching I had done on the cuff is still holding up ok. I'm going to toss this pair though and switch over to the "new pair" that Flatland 3D had sent me. Stay tuned for how that one from the updated batch works out. Here's a few notes on the updated "new pair" of gloves while I begin my long term use of them: - The stitching around the cuff has definitely improved. But I put it side by side to a pair of Fox mountain bike gloves and there is no comparison. The Flatland3D glove's stitching just feels inferior when I tug at it. I honestly don't know if they'll last a year of use. I doubled stitched up the right glove and kept the left glove stock to see if it will rip first. - The fingertips are already showing signs of fraying from the velcro strap again and I've only put the gloves on and off a few times. They need to change the tips to a different textile, use leather, or put some kind of coating on it to prevent this. - The little hexagonal non-slip bits on the fingertips are already starting to peel again. - When hyperextending my wrist against a table the Wrist Plate really pulls on the stitching of the glove on multiple panels. I don't know how well the wrist plates will perform in a crash when the thing holding it in looks like its about to burst at the seams. **Crash Update & Damage** Had a small crash: fell down while going up a 30 degree concrete ramp, was probably around 10 miles an hour. Landed hands first, slid down the hill a bit on my hands and then my back but was in full gear. Other than scratched up gear I got a small scrape on my finger. The glove had rubber finger protectors on the backside but they didn't stop the damage. - Big rip on the glove where the Knox Sliders are located. They slid and got grounded down a bit, but no bruising to my hand. My wrists are fine as well. - One finger got scraped but the rest are fine, one of the index finger tips on the glove started to rip. Edited April 13, 2019 by tihoa 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanzen Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 Where to buy ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fbhb Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 20 minutes ago, Vanzen said: Where to buy ? https://flatland3d.com/shop/all-products/all-e-skate-accessories/pro-e-skate-glove/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Girth Brooks Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 Do they actually have wrist guards built in with the gloves? I see they have sliders obviously but do the have the wrist stiffners like my Hillbilly and Triple 8? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jonesq Posted February 1, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted February 1, 2019 (edited) I have a pair of these as well. I haven't taken any falls yet so I can't attest to the effectiveness of the sliders and wrist guard. They have a unidirectional wrist guard that allows your wrist to bend in but not out. The quality of the stitching was really poor on my first pair. The stitching ripped between the wrist fabric and the thumb fabric causing separate. Luckily I brought the issue up with Flatland3d and they agreed to send me a new pair. I have seen another person post about the exact same defect in another forum. Other than the fabric ripping, I do enjoy the gloves as they allow much more freedom of movement with my hands and are very easy to put on. IMG_20190201_085752.pdf IMG_20190201_085800.pdf Edited February 1, 2019 by Jonesq added pictures 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tihoa Posted February 2, 2019 Author Share Posted February 2, 2019 (edited) 12 hours ago, Jonesq said: I have a pair of these as well. I haven't taken any falls yet so I can't attest to the effectiveness of the sliders and wrist guard. They have a unidirectional wrist guard that allows your wrist to bend in but not out. The quality of the stitching was really poor on my first pair. The stitching ripped between the wrist fabric and the thumb fabric causing separate. Luckily I brought the issue up with Flatland3d and they agreed to send me a new pair. I have seen another person post about the exact same defect in another forum. Other than the fabric ripping, I do enjoy the gloves as they allow much more freedom of movement with my hands and are very easy to put on. IMG_20190201_085752.pdf IMG_20190201_085800.pdf Daaamn, you were not kidding. They were comfy but after one ride started tearing apart when I barely used them. They're sending me another pair tho just like you: Edited February 2, 2019 by tihoa 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IRK Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 I was looking at these too. Trying to decide between fingers or fingerless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IRK Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 Ordered the full gloves. Curious what they are like and if the concept of sliding is actually any good as protection instead of a traditional wrist guard which I currently have. I spent a day day doing research and they seem great for asphalt/city riding but not good for off-road protection based on the principal of how they work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Girth Brooks Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 @IRK please let us know what you think of them once you've got them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonesq Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 Update - My new right glove ripped in exactly the same way when I tried to put the gloves on. The glove literally ripped the first time I put in on my hand. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IRK Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 9 hours ago, Jonesq said: Update - My new right glove ripped in exactly the same way when I tried to put the gloves on. The glove literally ripped the first time I put in on my hand. Ummm. Wow. That’s not good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heyzeus Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 how hard is it to spend what an extra 1$ a pair and use better stitching/thread. Either they basically have a whole bad batch that slipped through QC or their design is shit. If your customers are going to spend 60+ dollars on a pair of gloves, they won't mind paying a couple extra dollars for stitching that doesn't tear when you put it on. so lazy... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jonesq Posted February 5, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted February 5, 2019 14 hours ago, Heyzeus said: how hard is it to spend what an extra 1$ a pair and use better stitching/thread. Either they basically have a whole bad batch that slipped through QC or their design is shit. If your customers are going to spend 60+ dollars on a pair of gloves, they won't mind paying a couple extra dollars for stitching that doesn't tear when you put it on. so lazy... While I'm not happy with the horrible stitching, I am impressed with their customer service. I've copy and pasted Flatland3d's latest response to my e-mail notifying them that the second pair they sent me was defective: So sorry about that. That's really bad luck that it would happen the same way again. This is a known defect affecting a small percentage of gloves from this production batch. Future batches will be double reinforced in that area to prevent this type of failure. But that fix won't be in place until the next production run. In the meantime, our only recourse is to continue to honor our warranty and send a replacement. It's unlikely that you'd get another one with a bad stitch, but it is possible. Let me know if you're ok with another replacement, and we'll get that going right away. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heyzeus Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 That's cool that they acknowledge it and don't lie like many manufacturers do when things like this happen saying "oh no we haven't heard of anyone else having this issue". Impressed that they owned up to and acknowledge it and detail what they are doing to fix it in future batches. Hopefully it's just from that production run, I would be curious when they expect to have the second production run with the double reinforced stitching available. Maybe then it would be worth getting a pair to avoid the hassle. Hopefully third time is the charm for you though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonesq Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Heyzeus said: That's cool that they acknowledge it and don't lie like many manufacturers do when things like this happen saying "oh no we haven't heard of anyone else having this issue". Impressed that they owned up to and acknowledge it and detail what they are doing to fix it in future batches. Hopefully it's just from that production run, I would be curious when they expect to have the second production run with the double reinforced stitching available. Maybe then it would be worth getting a pair to avoid the hassle. Hopefully third time is the charm for you though. I'm also impressed with the way they are handling this issue. While I'd prefer to receive the updated model, I get that they are a business and probably need to deplete their current stock first before starting on the new batch. Based on their customer service, I'd still recommend these gloves as they are way more comfortable than your standard wrist guard. There is no ETA for the new production run currently according to the customer service rep. This was their response when I asked them when the new production run was projected to begin: "Unfortunately there's just too many factors at play to be able to project that yet. I couldn't even narrow it down to weeks or months for you at this point." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tihoa Posted February 8, 2019 Author Share Posted February 8, 2019 (edited) Ok so I got my new gloves in the mail today and I decided to sew one up a bit to see how they'll hold up. I left one just normal for comparison. Also an update on the one week old gloves: I sewed the rip and they're holding up okay, but there is some serious wear that's showing up on the finger tips including fraying and the grip bits falling off. The "feel" of these gloves are still better than all the roller derby gloves I've used (Hillbilly + Triple 8), the other ones just feel clunky and have a loose fit since they don't stretch. The original gloves I got have been holding up well after getting a quick sewing job, no further rips. But I am surprised to see the quick wear on the finger tips! I've only put maybe a dozen miles on them too, I have not been riding much due to the rain here in LA. I have not fallen yet but I'll post that up if it ever happens while wearing these. Edited February 8, 2019 by tihoa 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heyzeus Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 I was thinking of getting some mountain bike gloves and just wearing those under a wrist protector that's one size larger or so 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IRK Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 4 hours ago, tihoa said: Ok so I got my new gloves in the mail today and I decided to sew one up a bit to see how they'll hold up. I left one just normal for comparison. Also an update on the one week old gloves: I sewed the rip and they're holding up okay, but there is some serious wear that's showing up on the finger tips including fraying and the grip bits falling off. The "feel" of these gloves are still better than all the roller derby gloves I've used (Hillbilly + Triple 8), the other ones just feel clunky and have a loose fit since they don't stretch. The original gloves I got have been holding up well after getting a quick sewing job, no further rips. But I am surprised to see the quick wear on the finger tips! I've only put maybe a dozen miles on them too, I have not been riding much due to the rain here in LA. I have not fallen yet but I'll post that up if it ever happens while wearing these. I’m in LA too. Ha. Got mine today. Look nice. Feel good on. Rode for 20 min and one is ripped in the same spot. Sent an email. Ugh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Girth Brooks Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 I can't spend $60 on gloves that will be shit quality out of the package so I am out on these. I hope they get you all a pair that will hold up to the price they charge for these gloves. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweet M Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 I use Seibertron Dirtpaw BMX gloves! Perfect for my needs anyway! Got them on Amazon for $18. Something to consider for far less cost! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heyzeus Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 On 2/8/2019 at 5:56 AM, Girth Brooks said: I can't spend $60 on gloves that will be shit quality out of the package so I am out on these. I hope they get you all a pair that will hold up to the price they charge for these gloves. $2 to manufacture $60 dollars to sell, broken shortly after. Seems about standard for the quality of things these days. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IRK Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 Great customer service though. That I can say for sure! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scatcat Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 I've ordered both the full and the fingerless ones, we'll see if I have the same trouble with the quality... But for them to acknowledge the bad batch and honor their warranty without question and delay, that makes me forgive a lot. I'm planning to use these for normal street riding and use the flexmeters for off-road and for those times when I feel like pushing the speed. My take on their function is that they would have worked very well in all the spills I've taken - up to and including my last cut-off at 20mph. As I have always landed with either a roll or a slide in mind, I have so far never actually used the over-extension back brace of the flexmeters. The gliding pads is what has saved me so far. For off road, where sliding might become problematical, I suspect full on wrist guards will still be superior. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IRK Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 5 hours ago, Scatcat said: I've ordered both the full and the fingerless ones, we'll see if I have the same trouble with the quality... But for them to acknowledge the bad batch and honor their warranty without question and delay, that makes me forgive a lot. I'm planning to use these for normal street riding and use the flexmeters for off-road and for those times when I feel like pushing the speed. My take on their function is that they would have worked very well in all the spills I've taken - up to and including my last cut-off at 20mph. As I have always landed with either a roll or a slide in mind, I have so far never actually used the over-extension back brace of the flexmeters. The gliding pads is what has saved me so far. For off road, where sliding might become problematical, I suspect full on wrist guards will still be superior. Basically exactly my thinking. I have been wearing the new pair they sent me without them tearing yet. But it looks like it is starting to wear thin. The customer service was a big mark in the plus column for me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scatcat Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 23 minutes ago, IRK said: Basically exactly my thinking. I have been wearing the new pair they sent me without them tearing yet. But it looks like it is starting to wear thin. The customer service was a big mark in the plus column for me. On the minus column is the rather high price point. At that price they should be almost indestructible. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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