ir_fuel Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 I'm going to use a wifi controlled smart plug to automatically "trickle charge" it with my home automation system. But to do that I first need to determine the amount of power loss per day. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 47 minutes ago, Mimetic Polyalloy said: Please keep us informed. I had same issues with my Z10 after very long Ali shipment. It arrived dead at all. After nerve grinding but successful battery resurrection I also noticed a certain power drain over the last weeks. Hope this can be solved someday... What power drain how much distance, or does it just drop while not using? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ir_fuel Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 6 minutes ago, stephen said: What power drain how much distance, or does it just drop while not using? It clearly uses power when not using. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mimetic Polyalloy Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 1 hour ago, stephen said: What power drain how much distance, or does it just drop while not using? Positive. Just sitting in my basement Z10 seems to lose 1-2% everyday. Thus not being scientifc research I now can understand why someday Zed is dead : 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Girth Brooks Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 @Mimetic Polyalloy is your basement climate controlled? If it's cold where you're storing it then that could be a factor maybe? The Z10 doesn't seem to like the cold too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ir_fuel Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 Mine went dead in my garage, and my garage is inside the house. Temperature differential with my living room is maybe 4 degrees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, ir_fuel said: Mine went dead in my garage, and my garage is inside the house. Temperature differential with my living room is maybe 4 degrees. In what period of time Edited February 4, 2019 by stephen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mimetic Polyalloy Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, Girth Brooks said: @Mimetic Polyalloy is your basement climate controlled? If it's cold where you're storing it then that could be a factor maybe? The Z10 doesn't seem to like the cold too much. Same situation as the other guys. Mine was stored in the boiler room so there it should not much be below 15°C/59°F minimum. I´m not sure if it will be a real big issue but I will keep an eye on Zed... Edited February 4, 2019 by Mimetic Polyalloy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phillyrider Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 My brand new Z10 is stuck in “Limited Mode” or activation mode. It fails to activate every time I try. Software V1.0.5. My unit has power and turns on but flashes blue/red lights and doesn’t balance/have an active motor. Has anyone else had this issue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ch.Eng.62 Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 Check if it is locked from the app. The padlock in the centre of the screen is opened or closed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phillyrider Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 Thanks for your comment. It is locked from the app. The padlock is closed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ch.Eng.62 Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 @Phillyrider did you unlock the wheel? Just tap on padlock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamadella Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 unhappy unboxing today... from gearbest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamadella Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 hi all sorry bad english I think there is no way to "re-birth" the battery, it is right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Girth Brooks Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 @kamadella 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamadella Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 thank you I already did but do not work, i think too low voltage and battery dead 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ir_fuel Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Ok guys, I did some testing. I charged the battery to 84% and parked the Z10 in my garage. This morning (8.5 days later) the battery level has dropped to 72%. I clearly lose a bit more than 1% of charge per day. So leave it for 3 months and it's dead. I have a GT16 sitting in that same garage that hasn't lost any charge since the last time I used it, and that is months ago. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, ir_fuel said: Ok guys, I did some testing. I charged the battery to 84% and parked the Z10 in my garage. This morning (8.5 days later) the battery level has dropped to 72%. I clearly lose a bit more than 1% of charge per day. So leave it for 3 months and it's dead. I have a GT16 sitting in that same garage that hasn't lost any charge since the last time I used it, and that is months ago. Is it the bms what's draining it. If you undid the xt60 connectors would it not use any battery? I don't think I've ever left an euc for over 7 days without using it Edited February 12, 2019 by stephen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ir_fuel Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Just now, stephen said: Is it the bms what's draining it. If you undid the xt60 connectors would it not use any battery? It would make sense that disconnecting the battery would stop draining the battery, yes But then again, you can't be sure it's the BMS itself. It might just be all the other electronics in that machine that consume a bit of power. The only way of knowing that is by disassembling and using an amp meter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Just now, ir_fuel said: It would make sense that disconnecting the battery would stop draining the battery, yes But then again, you can't be sure it's the BMS itself. It might just be all the other electronics in that machine that consume a bit of power. The only way of knowing that is by disassembling and using an amp meter. Can't you do another 8.5 day test with the xt60 connectors undone😁 it will help the community 😀 your half way there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ir_fuel Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Just now, stephen said: Can't you do another 8.5 day test with the xt60 connectors undone😁 it will help the community 😀 your half way there It's completely useless imo. Of course they won't discharge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, ir_fuel said: It's completely useless imo. Of course they won't discharge Why don't AliExpress and gearbest just uplug them before shipping it would save them getting bad reviews,and worrying about the state of a discharged battery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ir_fuel Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Just now, stephen said: Why don't AliExpress and gearbest just uplug them before shipping it would save them getting bad reviews,and worrying about the state of a discharged battery Because I think you void your warranty by opening a device. I had a hard time opening it the first time because there is this white "blob" that glues the side plate to the machine. I presume they can tell by the fact it's undone that you opened the machine and thereby voided your warranty. They should simply fix the power drain of the device when it's off. It seems that problem was solved ages ago by all other brands. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 19 minutes ago, ir_fuel said: They should simply fix the power drain of the device when it's off. It seems that problem was solved ages ago by all other brands. I was prepared for the dead battery but didn't need it after all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockyTop Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 For the sake of the longevity of the batteries I would find an easy way to disconnect the batteries when not in use. Sure Ninebot should fix the problem but your are stuck with the problem for now. A switch seems simple but switches fail too frequently and are subject to vibration. Maybe move a connector to an easy to get to location or add an access door? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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