Rama Douglas Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 This wheel is amazing. Just logged 62 miles today which included a climb to the top of Griffith Park in Los Angeles and I had between 20%-30% battery left afterwards. Not sure how accurate the app is with distance, but my legs are jello! Oh and I weigh about 185... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrkline "Wheel Whisperer" Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 That's pretty good range,especially on a hill laden ride.I'll bet you're happy you waited for the XL over the L.The range telemetry from the wheels is usually off a little to the minus by up to 10%,at least on my KS and GW wheels, I always wear a GPS watch for comparison.Did you ride up to the Hollyweird sign? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rama Douglas Posted January 9, 2019 Author Share Posted January 9, 2019 1 minute ago, Jrkline "Wheel Whisperer" said: That's pretty good range,especially on a hill laden ride.I'll bet you're happy you waited for the XL over the L.The range telemetry from the wheels is usually off a little to the minus by up to 10%,at least on my KS and GW wheels, I always wear a GPS watch for comparison.Did you ride up to the Hollyweird sign? It's absolutely batty to get this much range! I wonder if the route was actually that long. I'll have to get a tracking app to verify these distances. I didn't go to the sign. I went up the back side past the helipad and came out by the Greek, then over to the river trail, then to Burbank, Noho, Van Nuys, then back to Noho...🙃 And yes, thank you again for bending my arm enough! Soooo happy to have all this range! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meepmeepmayer Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 *Snooty look* Non-Gotway riders learning the joys of big batteries Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Backe Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 22 minutes ago, Rama Douglas said: It's absolutely batty to get this much range! I wonder if the route was actually that long. I'll have to get a tracking app to verify these distances. I didn't go to the sign. I went up the back side past the helipad and came out by the Greek, then over to the river trail, then to Burbank, Noho, Van Nuys, then back to Noho...🙃 And yes, thank you again for bending my arm enough! Soooo happy to have all this range! You sound like a wheel newbie with all your excitement Welcome to the long-range club. As @Jrkline "Wheel Whisperer" suggests, is that 62-miles as reported by the app, or GPS? Most of the KingSong and Gotway wheels are about 10% off. That would put you closer to 56-miles. That range seems consistent with what I did last week and I also had ~20-percent remaining. And I also had about a 500-foot elevation gain. The KS18XL does have a marvelous range Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travsformation Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 8 hours ago, Rama Douglas said: Cool decal! Where'd you get it? Would love something like that for my XL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rama Douglas Posted January 9, 2019 Author Share Posted January 9, 2019 1 hour ago, travsformation said: Cool decal! Where'd you get it? Would love something like that for my XL I found the silver decals in a store in Sedona. Search for sacred geometry decals...😎 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rama Douglas Posted January 9, 2019 Author Share Posted January 9, 2019 Now if I could just get the app to work well...😬 It keeps saying I have to update firmware to reconnect to the wheel. I follow the commands, and then I get a don't quit update in red at the bottom, and nothing happens... Anyone have any suggestions? I already re-installed the app. It worked briefly, then said again to update firmware, and it gets stuck. This is the KS app. Wheel log not connecting either...help?... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason McNeil Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 7 minutes ago, Rama Douglas said: Could just get the app to work well...😬 It keeps saying I have to update firmware to reconnect to the wheel. I follow the commands, and then I get a don't quit update in red at the bottom, and nothing happens... Anyone have any suggestions? I already re-install do the app. It worked briefly, then said again to update firmware, and it gets stuck. KS's new App is in the offing, tried it out on Monday, but couldn't get past the registration. Some brilliant mind programmed a 10 second timer from sending the email/SMS, takes a minute to get the notification, in the meantime.... please try this version of the App & ignore the prompts to update. https://images.ewheels.com/KSv1.7.apk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rama Douglas Posted January 9, 2019 Author Share Posted January 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Jason McNeil said: KS's new App is in the offing, tried it out on Monday, but couldn't get past the registration. Some brilliant mind programmed a 10 second timer from sending the email/SMS, takes a minute to get the notification, in the meantime.... please try this version of the App & ignore the prompts to update. https://images.ewheels.com/KSv1.7.apk Thx Jason. I'll try that tonight after work... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rama Douglas Posted January 10, 2019 Author Share Posted January 10, 2019 Ok, regarding the app: I tried the 1.7 app and it behaved the same. Wanted me to upgrade firmware, I hit cancel and repeatedly it would not connect to the wheel. Wheelog either. I do remember the KS app displaying something about inmotion while running yesterday. I thought, maybe if I remove the Inmotion app from my phone...so I did and now it seems to be connecting no problem. When the hell are some real app writers gonna step up with solid platforms?!? Too weird, but at least the KS app is working again...just tried again and having issues connecting. I powered off the wheel and app, and connected again. I love the wheel, but man you'd think for $2150 the app(s) would be solid. Lame to have to power down just to reconnect ... Anyone else having these issues? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Backe Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Rama Douglas said: Ok, regarding the app: I tried the 1.7 app and it behaved the same. Wanted me to upgrade firmware, I hit cancel and repeatedly it would not connect to the wheel. Wheelog either. I do remember the KS app displaying something about inmotion while running yesterday. I thought, maybe if I remove the Inmotion app from my phone...so I did and now it seems to be connecting no problem. When the hell are some real app writers gonna step up with solid platforms?!? Too weird, but at least the KS app is working again...just tried again and having issues connecting. I powered off the wheel and app, and connected again. I love the wheel, but man you'd think for $2150 the app(s) would be solid. Lame to have to power down just to reconnect ... Anyone else having these issues? I have noticed that the KingSong app seems a bit finicky when connecting. But I use WheelLog 98-percent of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rama Douglas Posted January 10, 2019 Author Share Posted January 10, 2019 Yep. Seems I have to power down the wheel and power up again to reconnect with the app. To me, that's weird. Anyone else having any app issues? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rama Douglas Posted January 10, 2019 Author Share Posted January 10, 2019 14 minutes ago, Marty Backe said: I have noticed that the KingSong app seems a bit finicky when connecting. But I use WheelLog 98-percent of the time. Wheelog wasn't working either, while initially it did. Such a great wheel, however, the app situation has me feeling a little bit like that initial 18L scrotum flap 😬 Inmotion's app wasn't great, but it always worked. I guess I only really need it to work to unlock it to 31 after 25 more km... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Backe Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 26 minutes ago, Rama Douglas said: Wheelog wasn't working either, while initially it did. Such a great wheel, however, the app situation has me feeling a little bit like that initial 18L scrotum flap 😬 Inmotion's app wasn't great, but it always worked. I guess I only really need it to work to unlock it to 31 after 25 more km... You do need to be sure that the KingSong app isn't running in the background. WheelLog has consistently worked for me. I haven't been hearing about widespread app connectivity issues with the 18L. Some people do have phone related issues sometimes, but I think all the mainstream phones work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rama Douglas Posted January 14, 2019 Author Share Posted January 14, 2019 Well I was about to post here that the app has been behaving fine, but after this morning, my speed got locked again down at 12.5mph. I had to fuss with it again for about 15 minutes to get it to connect and then change the speed back to 50km/hr. Why the hell would the wheel revert to slow max speed on me when I haven't changed it in the app? Almost threw me off this morning with an unexpected tiltback during acceleration. I was thinking I would have had to call an Uber as I was commuting to work today in Pasadena and wouldn't have made it if I couldn't unlock speed again. This is the second time it reverted speed back on me. I'm beginning to wonder if I have a faulty wheel..?!? Everything seems fine until I open the damned KS app...😒 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seba Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 7 minutes ago, Rama Douglas said: Well I was about to post here that the app has been behaving fine, but after this morning, my speed got locked again down at 12.5mph. I had to fuss with it again for about 15 minutes to get it to connect and then change the speed back to 50km/hr. Almost had to call an Uber as I was commuting to work today in Pasadena and wouldn't have made it if I couldn't unlock speed again. This is the second time it reverted speed back on me. I'm beginning to wonder if I have a faulty wheel..?!? Everything seems fine until I open the damned KS app...😒 Don't use KS app. EUC is a fantastic piece of hardware that works best without any software other that internal firmware Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rama Douglas Posted January 14, 2019 Author Share Posted January 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, Seba said: Don't use KS app. EUC is a fantastic piece of hardware that works best without any software other that internal firmware Problem is I am a lighting enthusiast and I like to change it up. As far as I know, only the KS app allows you to control those parameters. Still, just makes no sense why it would keep reverting down to 20km/hr... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seba Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 Just now, Rama Douglas said: Problem is I am a lighting enthusiast and I like to change it up. As far as I know, only the KS app allows you to control those parameters. Still, just makes no sense why it would keep reverting down to 20km/hr... From what I remember, this app reverted back to default speed settings when there it was unable to connect with King Song servers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rama Douglas Posted January 14, 2019 Author Share Posted January 14, 2019 4 minutes ago, Seba said: From what I remember, this app reverted back to default speed settings when there it was unable to connect with King Song servers. Lame! For $2,150 I want zero issues other than normal upkeep...☹️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seba Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 To be more verbose - each time you start the KS application, it checks on KS servers whether you have accepted the conditions for removing the factory speed lock. If no response is received (eg. no Internet connection), any modification of the wheel parameters will also restore the default speed limits. So when you play with lights and there is no Internet connection or KS server doesn't respond, you will also revert speed settings to default 20 km/h. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seba Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 Just now, Rama Douglas said: Lame! For $2,150 I want zero issues other than normal upkeep...☹️ You know... You paid for wonderful wheel, but app is for free Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rama Douglas Posted January 14, 2019 Author Share Posted January 14, 2019 3 minutes ago, Seba said: To be more verbose - each time you start the KS application, it checks on KS servers whether you have accepted the conditions for removing the factory speed lock. If no response is received (eg. no Internet connection), any modification of the wheel parameters will also restore the default speed limits. So when you play with lights and there is no Internet connection or KS server doesn't respond, you will also revert speed settings to default 20 km/h. Thx for the information! I had zero issues with Inmotion app... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rama Douglas Posted January 14, 2019 Author Share Posted January 14, 2019 5 minutes ago, Seba said: You know... You paid for wonderful wheel, but app is for free ..then how about wheel based control of lights, like some other wheels?!?... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Backe Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 17 minutes ago, Rama Douglas said: Lame! For $2,150 I want zero issues other than normal upkeep...☹️ I can certainly understand your frustration, but these are Chinese manufactured products designed by Chinese. We have a long EUC record of incompetence here, particularly with the apps. Really, don't expect anything to change, even if it costs $5k. You'll live a calmer life if you accept this reality and move on Honestly, I rarely have the need to (never really) change anything but the pedal hardness, and even that is done rarely. What exactly are you changing all the time that requires you to use the KingSong app? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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