Lutalo Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 8 minutes ago, houseofjob said: I love to disagree, and so do you! We were meant for each other Ulf! Which one of you is Paula Abdul? 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houseofjob Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 1 minute ago, Lutalo said: Which one of you is Paula Abdul? Clearly me, I'm the bigger Diva! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lutalo Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 Just now, houseofjob said: Clearly me, I'm the bigger Diva! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rywokast Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 36 minutes ago, seage said: Haha, honestly. But on the upside, passed 200km on the wheel today! Learning to ride a bit faster now. But i wont hijack this thread with that stuff. After seeing the specs and riding my own 16, i think id still go for that 18xl...unless i win that contest LOL. But man, how can folks go 40km+ on a 16 inch wheel? easy, i just wish it wasnt a 3" tire i love the thinner 2.125" for its nimbleness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post seage Posted March 14, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 14, 2019 5 minutes ago, Rywokast said: easy, i just wish it wasnt a 3" tire i love the thinner 2.125" for its nimbleness I want to ride with you, but im also scared of you. You want nimbleness....at 40kmph....i want an immovable tank. Like a bigger z10. I want to need to throw another mans body to get the force to turn the wheel, lmao. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rywokast Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 25 minutes ago, seage said: I want to ride with you, but im also scared of you. You want nimbleness....at 40kmph....i want an immovable tank. Like a bigger z10. I want to need to throw another mans body to get the force to turn the wheel, lmao. haha, oh nah stability is boooring xD i like something exhilarating.. under 40 and i can fall asleep while riding, almost have a few times at 4 am lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrelwood Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 6 hours ago, Smoother said: Since we're talking lighting; how about a light that actually throws some sort of focused beam like on road legal vehicles, rather than the generic flashlight "all blinded" circle. Something that throws some of the light at the ground immediately in front of the wheel would also be nice for obstruction identification. Oh yes, a lens! Something that limits the beam pointing upwards, yet widely illuminates the ground. @Smoother, the MSX has a very focused beam. But it is too focused, I couldn’t see a bambi standing right next to the road until it jumped and ran right past the front of me. Quite a pulse-riser. I soon replaced the LED for a wider beam, and it’s great now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meepmeepmayer Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 6 hours ago, seage said: Yeah, no one told me about the weak handle until the 2nd one broke on my 2nd time picking it up, dropping my 16s directly on the top of my foot - fracturing it a few weeks ago XD. What, really? Oh come on. That is slapstick level of nasty I assume there is no secret meaning of "fractured" that isn't "broken bone"? Your high cautiousness makes more sense with that context. Maybe steel-toed work boots will be the next protective gear trend... - Anyways, 16X. The extra bass speaker is a cool idea. They seem to consequently go with the mobile speaker idea, just like with the big speakers in the 18(X)L. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unventor Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 @US69 I think you are doing a great job as KS Soc. Rep. I just hoped that people knew a little more of that they are asking. Construction changes and innovations takes time. This wheel will proberly not get any major overhaul. Also there is a huge difference from constructive suggestions, ideas, request and demard. In short if you have something you don't like on a new wheen you as customer must desice id that is a dealbreaker or not. I can say I have my KS18L and it is growing on me every day. I have tested a Z10 recenstly I can't master that wheel, it show potential. But there is a MAJOR differance to )B and Kingsong approch, so my money do not hold a )B logo. I can't see it will happen in any near furture. I like what I have from Kingsong and how they are listning and try to filter noise out of what is feasable and constructive. Still doing great @US69 and I am a happy customer that really appciate your effords. And of course the dealers that help Kingsong develop, like @Jason McNeil (e.g Largge pedels) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Smoother Posted March 14, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 14, 2019 (edited) 9 hours ago, US69 said: FWIW and Just to make it clear...thats a „personal“ answer from my very own, quasi my very own IMHO :-) Perhaps as „KS rep“ ..i shouldnt give such personal answers...so thats probably one of the reasons, why, as @Unventor stated...i was „out of buisiness“ and partly stayed out of discussions.... So, help needed? Contact me by PM!!! Maybe you need two accounts; one where you can voice your personal opinion about things and and one for your representative position. Love to see both your accounts arguing with each other. Edited March 14, 2019 by Smoother 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoother Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 6 hours ago, mrelwood said: Oh yes, a lens! Something that limits the beam pointing upwards, yet widely illuminates the ground. @Smoother, the MSX has a very focused beam. But it is too focused, I couldn’t see a bambi standing right next to the road until it jumped and ran right past the front of me. Quite a pulse-riser. I soon replaced the LED for a wider beam, and it’s great now. Yeah, but my complete sentence said: 6 hours ago, mrelwood said: how about a light that actually throws some sort of focused beam like on road legal vehicles A light designed with the beam of a road legal vehicle would have shown you Bambi in all his splendor. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrelwood Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 57 minutes ago, Smoother said: Yeah, but my complete sentence said: A light designed with the beam of a road legal vehicle would have shown you Bambi in all his splendor. Ah, sorry, I misread. Thinking about the front light in the 16S, it is positioned quite high, and the shell shape makes it point upwards. Points of concern, but hopefully they figure it all out well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ericnfla Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 Already up for pre-order on speedyfeet.co.uk https://www.speedyfeet.co.uk/collections/electric-unicycle/products/kingsong-ks16xl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason McNeil Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 2 hours ago, Ericnfla said: Already up for pre-order on speedyfeet.com That 4-5 week estimate is wildly overoptimistic, production won't start till June, at least another month for deliveries. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mike Paolini Posted March 14, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 14, 2019 (edited) 19 hours ago, US69 said: Without joke: The more feedback i have...the better the chances are to get what we want.... @US69 @Jason McNeil My Wish List for all future EUC's My number #1 safety ask for all EUC's 1) Bluetooth output for warnings and messages. This would allow them to be connected and directed to smart phones and then redirected to another Bluetooth output device such an external speaker (usually hangs on my backpack) or the bone conducting earphones I use or an intercom/music system in a motorcycle helmet (which typically offer more safety but restrict hearing) or even the wheels very own Bluetooth speakers or whatever. 2) Proper outputs from the iOS app to Apple Watch (current Speed -for legal reasons -, current battery, current AMP drawl, warnings - just fine if this is swipe to switch between). Make Wheelog obsolete please. 3) User Adjustable Headlight - these are vehicles time to make them safer. 4) Proper Break Light visible to cars - same side comment. 5) Turn signals, triggered by lean, would be splended - same side comment. 6) Spin cut off (ideally a button as I've never trusted automatic sensors) 7) Better side lighting (the automatic red on the sides for stopping on the Tesla was amazing). 8) Enough of a hole space on the wheel rim for a bike lock to fit through 9) Easy tire inflation process - be nice not to require value extender, because proper tire pressure should be done every ride given we only have one tire and it is everything on these vehicles. 10) Voltage battery indicator (way more useful and informative than bars). Would also be good if it was activated and showing information during charging. 11) The power button should be a real power interrupt so that the EUC does not deplete when off. It should also be out of the way so as not to be inadvertently used during normal activities. 12) Better uses configuration options on the feedback and petal feel 13) Optional protective padded cover (as the InMotion people offer) 14) Better circuit and wheel self-protection (melted parts should not happen, at a minimum fuses could be used). 15) Targeted at Anglo sized users carrying extra payload of things like protective gear, water, and backpacks full of groceries (120KG doesn't leave lot of safety padding for a 200 pound rider - especially for curb drops and such). 16) As small and light as is feasible given the tire, motor, and batteries - might be time to look at some new materials 17) Upgraded Chargers. I don't mind paying a separate & fee extra for this. Edited March 14, 2019 by Mike Paolini 6 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unventor Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 @Mike Paolini I really like your 1) suggestion. I use a FF MC helmet with added BT comms headset. It would be nice to get warnings and maybe like 10kmh 20kmh 30kmh call outs as ypu accelerate or break. And I do hope they decide to option a seat and cover as well. Would be great to get a wireless display option too. By this I mean a special linked display with smart watch like function but for wheel and gps tracking only. It would make battery draining app less needed and should be easier to fit on equipment when wearing wristguards. Or as a neckless like device. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Marty Backe Posted March 14, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 14, 2019 27 minutes ago, Mike Paolini said: @US69 @Jason McNeil My Wish List for all future EUC's My number #1 safety ask for all EUC's 1) Bluetooth output for warnings and messages. This would allow them to be connected and directed to smart phones and then redirected to another Bluetooth output device such an external speaker (usually hangs on my backpack) or the bone conducting earphones I use or an intercom/music system in a motorcycle helmet (which typically offer more safety but restrict hearing) or even the wheels very own Bluetooth speakers or whatever. 2) Proper outputs from the iOS app to Apple Watch (current Speed -for legal reasons -, current battery, current AMP drawl, warnings - just fine if this is swipe to switch between). Make Wheelog obsolete please. 3) User Adjustable Headlight - these are vehicles time to make them safer. 4) Proper Break Light visible to cars - same side comment. 5) Turn signals, triggered by lean, would be splended - same side comment. 6) Spin cut off (ideally a button as I've never trusted automatic sensors) 7) Better side lighting (the automatic red on the sides for stopping on the Tesla was amazing). 8) Enough of a hole space on the wheel rim for a bike lock to fit through 9) Easy tire inflation process - be nice not to require value extender, because proper tire pressure should be done every ride given we only have one tire and it is everything on these vehicles. 10) Voltage battery indicator (way more useful and informative than bars). Would also be good if it was activated and showing information during charging. 11) The power button should be a real power interrupt so that the EUC does not deplete when off. It should also be out of the way so as not to be inadvertently used during normal activities. 12) Better uses configuration options on the feedback and petal feel 13) Optional protective padded cover (as the InMotion people offer) 14) Better circuit and wheel self-protection (melted parts should not happen, at a minimum fuses could be used). 15) Targeted at Anglo sized users carrying extra payload of things like protective gear, water, and backpacks full of groceries (120KG doesn't leave lot of safety padding for a 200 pound rider - especially for curb drops and such). 16) As small and light as is feasible given the tire, motor, and batteries - might be time to look at some new materials 17) Upgraded Chargers. I don't mind paying a separate & fee extra for this. Great list, which of course will never happen Now pick 3 as the most important. 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post esaj Posted March 14, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 14, 2019 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Mike Paolini said: @US69 @Jason McNeil 5) Turn signals, triggered by lean, would be splended - same side comment. Problem with this might be if the turn signals activate when you're just making a slight adjustment on your trajectory... also they might be illegal in some countries (at least here, the colors for lights/reflectors pointing at different directions are set in law, never checked what the law says if a bike had turning signals). Quote 6) Spin cut off (ideally a button as I've never trusted automatic sensors) I'd like this, seeing that for the first time I'll have to carry the damn thing upstairs at work when the riding season starts, and then roll it down the hall for a bit. At my last workplace, I could just trolley it in and out of the elevator Quote 7) Better side lighting (the automatic red on the sides for stopping on the Tesla was amazing). Again legal issues: red lights pointing sideways are illegal here, don't know about other countries. Light or reflector pointing backwards MUST be red. Don't know how uptight police is with the rules though, never been stopped (EUCs are legal in Finland, they're classified same as bicycles in traffic laws). Quote 8) Enough of a hole space on the wheel rim for a bike lock to fit through Not a bad idea, but I'd never leave my wheel out of sight in public spaces, even if it's locked. Someone's going to go poke around it or maybe damage it, locked or not. Quote 10) Voltage battery indicator (way more useful and informative than bars). Would also be good if it was activated and showing information during charging. I'd personally like this, but for an Average Joe, the voltages are meaningless. Most people don't know anything about batteries, and for them the bars / percentage-display are much better. Maybe both / selectable (7-segments or similar showing percentage 0-100 or voltage, adjustable from app or somewhere) Quote 11) The power button should be a real power interrupt so that the EUC does not deplete when off. It should also be out of the way so as not to be inadvertently used during normal activities. Not going to happen, you can't put that much current through any normal button, it would have to be pretty huge. The contacts on the button would either weld shut or melt... Quote 14) Better circuit and wheel self-protection (melted parts should not happen, at a minimum fuses could be used). All the KS's already have fuses, AFAIK. Of course they should always be the "last line of defense", and in a perfect world, the electronics would never break down. Edited March 14, 2019 by esaj 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Paolini Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 8 minutes ago, Marty Backe said: Great list, which of course will never happen Now pick 3 as the most important. Easy: 1 (Safety) 10 minutes ago, Marty Backe said: 1) Bluetooth output for warnings and messages. This would allow them to be connected and directed to smart phones and then redirected to another Bluetooth output device such an external speaker (usually hangs on my backpack) or the bone conducting earphones I use or an intercom/music system in a motorcycle helmet (which typically offer more safety but restrict hearing) or even the wheels very own Bluetooth speakers or whatever. 2 (Safety) 8 minutes ago, Marty Backe said: 15) Targeted at Anglo sized users carrying extra payload of things like protective gear, water, and backpacks full of groceries (120KG doesn't leave lot of safety padding for a 200 pound rider - especially for curb drops and such). 3 ) Legal compliance and Safety 10 minutes ago, Marty Backe said: 2) Proper outputs from the iOS app to Apple Watch (current Speed -for legal reasons -, current battery, current AMP drawl, warnings - just fine if this is swipe to switch between). Make Wheelog obsolete please. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Girth Brooks Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 This wheel looks to be great IMO. I am glad to see them give up the awful round disk body. I would love to ride one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockyTop Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 I@Mike Paolini @Unventor #1 partly already exists. If you use DarknessBot with an IPhone you can set one speed alarm that can be heard as a loud phone ring or threw ear buds or bluetooth headset. It also works while music is playing. The alarm simply wathches the speedometer and alarms when it reaches your set speed. Note: It does not changes with each wheel. It is a set speed for you. Hear in the US you can get used phones and devices cheap at a pawn shop. Just need wifi to set up. (at least with DarknessBot) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unventor Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 Pretty hard @RockyTop as my smartphone suffer from iox-fobia. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lutalo Posted March 14, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Girth Brooks said: awful round disk body. Well there's a strong opinion 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Girth Brooks Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 @Lutalo I can't be the only one who thinks this is by far their best looking wheel to date. Hahahaha 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esaj Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 15 minutes ago, Girth Brooks said: @Lutalo I can't be the only one who thinks this is by far their best looking wheel to date. Hahahaha I kind of liked the old 18" KS look, although no idea how practical (probably not? ) it was... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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