Marty Backe Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 8 hours ago, Lutalo said: Don't think that I would trust the hoodie. An armored base layer with a regular hoodie of your choosing would be more reliable. I usually wear my hoodies loose-fitting because they are more comfortable that way for me. No way hoodie pads would provide me any protection unless I wore a tight-fitting hoodie. Do you have experience wearing motorcycle jackets with the integrated elbow/shoulder pads? In your opinion are those pads secured well enough against the body to be effective? I'm under the impression that there are straps along the waist and arms which are used to secure everything. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 13 minutes ago, Marty Backe said: Do you have experience wearing motorcycle jackets with the integrated elbow/shoulder pads? In your opinion are those pads secured well enough against the body to be effective? I'm under the impression that there are straps along the waist and arms which are used to secure everything. Motorcycle jackets are made with abrasion resistant Cordura material (or leather) to protect against road rash and the pads protect against impact. Coming off at speed will wear through normal clothes pretty fast. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Unventor said: I bought a pull over MC trousers that came with D3O hip and knee pads. It does take much to be effective at EUC speeds. Btw @stephen did that "house" your in the video, come with one or two butlers? Do you think you will be able to wear those MC trousers in Summer? I bought myself an MC textile summer jacket, but I had to send trousers back as they were too heavy and hot even without a liner. I managed to find Cordura MTB trousers (Endura Singletrack) instead and they are suitable for all seasons as they have zip vents and seem pretty tough, but they don't have pads. Edited January 24, 2019 by Nic 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Backe Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 23 minutes ago, Nic said: Motorcycle jackets are made with abrasion resistant Cordura material (or leather) to protect against road rash and the pads protect against impact. Coming off at speed will wear through normal clothes pretty fast. Yes, I know all that. I was just asking @Lutalo his personal experience wearing these items and their effectiveness at keeping the pads properly positioned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lutalo Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, Marty Backe said: Do you have experience wearing motorcycle jackets with the integrated elbow/shoulder pads? In your opinion are those pads secured well enough against the body to be effective? I'm under the impression that there are straps along the waist and arms which are used to secure everything. I typically ride with sportbike/race jackets. They have a slimmer fit, but feel great when well-fitted; lots of movement, good ventilation. I have never had any issues with the impact protection moving. Most jackets nowadays are made well enough to prevent this anyway as long as they fit. Even during my low side accident when I slid across the pavement for a couple of feet everything stayed in place, and all the damage I sustained was below the leather jacket/waist. In fact, I still use that very jacket for EUC riding. 😉👍 Edited January 24, 2019 by Lutalo 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Backe Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 2 hours ago, Lutalo said: I typically ride with sportbike/race jackets. They have a slimmer fit, but feel great when well-fitted; lots of movement, good ventilation. I have never had any issues with the impact protection moving. Most jackets nowadays are made well enough to prevent this anyway as long as they fit. Even during my low side accident when I slid across the pavement for a couple of feet everything stayed in place, and all the damage I sustained was below the leather jacket/waist. In fact, I still use that very jacket for EUC riding. 😉👍 Thanks for that 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unventor Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 (edited) 17 hours ago, Nic said: Do you think you will be able to wear those MC trousers in Summer? I bought myself an MC textile summer jacket, but I had to send trousers back as they were too heavy and hot even without a liner. I managed to find Cordura MTB trousers (Endura Singletrack) instead and they are suitable for all seasons as they have zip vents and seem pretty tough, but they don't have pads. Aye I do. As we dont's have @Marty Backe overheat summers here, normaly. Shorts with the MC trousers should work. I only paid 50 € including the D3O padding. Edited January 24, 2019 by Unventor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unventor Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 5 hours ago, Marty Backe said: Yes, I know all that. I was just asking @Lutalo his personal experience wearing these items and their effectiveness at keeping the pads properly positioned. In the incident where a Volvo V90 forced my Inmotion V8 into a deep water filled pot hole, the trouser worked perfectly. I partly tumbled partly slid on the tarmac. I didn't feel a thing on my knees or hip. Only a temp pain as I landef on a index finger. Similar as it got squeezed in a door frame. 30 min after the finger was fine. The clothing didn't show any wear or tate either. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lutalo Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 6 hours ago, Marty Backe said: Thanks for that My pleasure 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 These look excellent ... gloves with built-in wrist guards and sliders... https://flatland3d.com/shop/all-products/all-e-skate-accessories/pro-e-skate-glove/ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darrell Wesh Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, Nic said: These look excellent ... gloves with built-in wrist guards and sliders... https://flatland3d.com/shop/all-products/all-e-skate-accessories/pro-e-skate-glove/ Too bad it’s winter most everywhere and those are purely warm weather gloves. Edited January 25, 2019 by Darrell Wesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Girth Brooks Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 @Nic those gloves really do look excellent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ande Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 Found a good deal which I thought worth sharing for UK riders: https://www.absolute-snow.co.uk/V/Demon_Flex_Force_Pro_Body_Armour_Top_M_BlackGreen-(135111) There is an additional discount code, WNTR15, that will give an extra15% off. Just bought one myself, and it worked out at about £113. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Girth Brooks Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 I have decided that this will be my warm weather gear: Protective short sleeve shirt: https://smile.amazon.com/Troy-Lee-Designs-Ultra-Protective/dp/B004KZW522/ref=sr_1_2?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1548945316&sr=1-2&keywords=7850+ULTRA+PROTECTIVE+SHIRT+large Elbow pads: https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B01NAZJYMR/?coliid=IL6FVQE723X5O&colid=2HJR1VKZSRV62&psc=0&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it Knee pads: https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B01N4UD9OP/?coliid=IOCIIW1K9I7A0&colid=2HJR1VKZSRV62&psc=0&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gadgetfann Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 I’ve decided to go with the Leatt 4.5 body protector and Leatt knee pads. Not quite as much protection as Marty’s Leatt 5.5, but pretty close. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Backe Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 My latest acquisition, the Viking Textile Jacket 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ande Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 Recently purchased the Demon Flex Force Pro and, to be honest, I’ve not exactly been blown away with what I received. The quality doesn’t seem to even nearly match the price. Adjustability is minimal, and protection seems negligible. It’ll be going on eBay. In the meantime, I’ve ordered, and received, this: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01M5B2G38?ref_=pe_3187911_248764861_302_E_DDE_dt_1 A third of the price, bags more protection, seemingly nicer quality, and extremely adjustable. There are straps everywhere, and you really can get the armour to sit exactly where you want. The back protector seems very substantial, there are thumb-holes to keep the jacket from riding up. Very well thought out. A snip at £35.99 delivered. Just wish I’d seen it before the Demon FFP 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoother Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 3 hours ago, Ande said: Recently purchased the Demon Flex Force Pro and, to be honest, I’ve not exactly been blown away with what I received. The quality doesn’t seem to even nearly match the price. Adjustability is minimal, and protection seems negligible. It’ll be going on eBay. In the meantime, I’ve ordered, and received, this: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01M5B2G38?ref_=pe_3187911_248764861_302_E_DDE_dt_1 A third of the price, bags more protection, seemingly nicer quality, and extremely adjustable. There are straps everywhere, and you really can get the armour to sit exactly where you want. The back protector seems very substantial, there are thumb-holes to keep the jacket from riding up. Very well thought out. A snip at £35.99 delivered. Just wish I’d seen it before the Demon FFP I've looked at that inexpensive Amazon stuff and wrote it off as cheap wannabe stuff from the far east. But you say you have one in your possession and you like what you see. Can you go outside and throw yourself off your wheel a few times at high speed please, I must know for sure. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Girth Brooks Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 @Smoother I also have that Fox knock-off armour and I would recommend for sure. Mine has held up well for the price and he's right about fitment/adjustment. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoother Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 Just now, Girth Brooks said: @Smoother I also have that Fox knock-off armour and I would recommend for sure. Mine has held up well for the price and he's right about fitment/adjustment. Good to know, thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Backe Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 21 minutes ago, Girth Brooks said: @Smoother I also have that Fox knock-off armour and I would recommend for sure. Mine has held up well for the price and he's right about fitment/adjustment. Just hope it actually has the "real" D3O-type padding instead of basic foam. At that price point, I have my doubts. It's not just about looking like you're well protected. You want to be actually well protected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Girth Brooks Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 \ Just now, Marty Backe said: Just hope it actually has the "real" D3O-type padding instead of basic foam. At that price point, I have my doubts. It's not just about looking like you're well protected. You want to be actually well protected. I have hit the ground with it and would say it worked well for me personally. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Girth Brooks Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 @Marty Backe the skid plating is what made it most effective in my instance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Backe Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 11 minutes ago, Girth Brooks said: @Marty Backe the skid plating is what made it most effective in my instance. I really want the skip protection too. But from my recent faceplant experience, there was little skidding and more blunt force impact. For me, if I'm going to sacrifice any level of protection, I'll forego the skid protection. It's not a perfect science for sure - always compromise. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ande Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Smoother said: I've looked at that inexpensive Amazon stuff and wrote it off as cheap wannabe stuff from the far east. But you say you have one in your possession and you like what you see. Can you go outside and throw yourself off your wheel a few times at high speed please, I must know for sure. As tempting as that seems, I’m gonna let the gods decide when a tumble is due, thanks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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