Marty Backe Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 2 hours ago, meepmeepmayer said: 800Wh (or 777Wh exactly). 84V wheel Yeah, of course you're right. I was thinking of my KS14S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heyzeus Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 (edited) I keep getting tempted by this wheel but I tell myself to hold off and see what KingSong will have soon with their new 16x. If this wheel had the same taper shaped shell, but came in a matte black/rubberized look material, had no fake vents, the handle hole went all the way through to the other side, and the shell was continuously rounded/the lines of each side were clean(like if the shell didn't have the gotway logo sticking out at the bottom and if the shell sides were smooth with none of those ridges or rectangular dips/cutouts) the wheel would look so much better (IMO) and I would have a much harder time resisting and probably would have bought one. MCM5 Stealth @Jason McNeil suggest to gotway that having different shell styles would be cool.Ā I understand variety would probably have to be limited due to costs but maybe even 1 additional style with a rugged clean minimalistic look for their wheels would be a nice option for those who hate the default look. Ā Edited January 29, 2019 by Heyzeus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Marty Backe Posted January 29, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted January 29, 2019 27 minutes ago, Heyzeus said: I keep getting tempted by this wheel but I tell myself to hold off and see what KingSong will have soon with their new 16x. If this wheel had the same taper shaped shell, but came in a matte black/rubberized look material, had no fake vents, the handle hole went all the way through to the other side, and the shell was continuously rounded/the lines of each side were clean(like if the shell didn't have the gotway logo sticking out at the bottom and if the shell sides were smooth with none of those ridges or rectangular dips/cutouts) the wheel would look so much better (IMO) and I would have a much harder time resisting and probably would have bought one. MCM5 Stealth @Jason McNeil suggest to gotway that having different shell styles would be cool.Ā I understand variety would probably have to be limited due to costs but maybe even 1 additional style with a rugged clean minimalistic look for their wheels would be a nice option for those who hate the default look. Ā I like the MCM5 just the way it is. The last thing that I would want is for it to look like a KingSong wheel. Except for the tapering sides, what you are describing is clearly a KingSong styled wheel. Of course this makes sense if you are generally drawn to KingSong products. My understanding is that the shell design and manufacture is one of the biggest expenses for a wheel. So I wouldn't look for another version to be released. You know, most of the time you're riding the wheel, not looking at. And really, at the end of the day, don't all wheels look basically good? The Mten3 is probably my least favorite wheel in terms of looks, but it's one of my all-time favorite wheels to ride. If you had made it to the Griffith Park ride last weekend you could have ridden my MCM5 - I brought it along to let people try it. Ā Buy one, you'll love it. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heyzeus Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 24 minutes ago, Marty Backe said: Ā Buy one, you'll love it. Get Thee behind me Satan Ā I know, i'll just buy an MCM5 and duct tape a king song shell over it, greatest mashup of all time Ā 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Backe Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 3 minutes ago, Heyzeus said: Get Thee behind me Satan I know, i'll just buy an MCM5 and duct tape a king song shell over it, greatest mashup of all time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houseofjob Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 1 hour ago, Heyzeus said: I keep getting tempted by this wheel but I tell myself to hold off and see what KingSong will have soon with their new 16x. Ā 16X will be a totally different class of wheel, and much heavier due to the 1600Wh (I suspect taller than the current 16S due to this reason as well). Ā 1 hour ago, Heyzeus said: the handle hole went all the way through to the other side, Easy fix. Just buy an extra set of shells, then replace the non-cutout side shell with the extra cutout side, sealing off the empty trolley handle stick holes somehow. Ā 1 hour ago, Heyzeus said: @Jason McNeil suggest to gotway that having different shell styles would be cool.Ā I understand variety would probably have to be limited due to costs but maybe even 1 additional style with a rugged clean minimalistic look for their wheels would be a nice option for those who hate the default look. Never gonna happen (at least from the manufacturer direct). You're basically asking them to pay 5-6 figures for a new mold, combined with new engineering problems like cooling, water penetration isolation, alternating/interlocking mirrored design to minimize on cost, shell integrity (or lack thereof, Gotway haters would say), etc, etc. This would be the realm of 3rd party 3D-printing I'd say, ala how @EUC GUYĀ 3D-printed himself a new Ninebot One 16" design. Ā 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heyzeus Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 48 minutes ago, houseofjob said: Never gonna happen (at least from the manufacturer direct). You're basically asking them to pay 5-6 figures for a new mold, combined with new engineering problems like cooling, water penetration isolation, alternating/interlocking mirrored design to minimize on cost, shell integrity (or lack thereof, Gotway haters would say), etc, etc. This would be the realm of 3rd party 3D-printing I'd say, ala how @EUC GUYĀ 3D-printed himself a new Ninebot One 16" design. Yeah, I would never realistically expect it to happen with the current model, but if there's enough demand out there perhaps on future models they might consider having 2 options of style (a la kingsong, though to be fair, king song only changes the color not the mold).Ā I know in some cases Jason's gotten manufacturers to make changes (larger pedals, no kingsong logos) but I imagine in this case these changes would be a little too much for a model that is already in production. Guess I'll have to buy a giant 3d printer and learn to use it someday. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houseofjob Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 27 minutes ago, Heyzeus said: (a la kingsong, though to be fair, king song only changes the color not the mold) LOL, even there, King Song has discontinued wide availability of alternate colors due to low, one-off type demand. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chopsywa Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 On 1/30/2019 at 7:16 AM, houseofjob said: Just buy an extra set of shells, then replace the non-cutout side shell with the extra cutout side, sealing off the empty trolley handle stick holesļ»æļ»æļ»æļ»æļ»æ ļ»æsomehowļ»æ.ļ»æ Even easier. Use a holesaw on the blank side to pass a lock through. When mine has a bit of "patina" I'll do it. š¤ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yffisch Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 (edited) So, I just got my MCM5. Though I use the same app as for my mcm4. Which has the beep at 32kmh++. What app do you use to set the beep at 35kmh or 40kmh? Edited April 17, 2019 by Yffisch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yffisch Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 And another question. How did you solve the feet thing against the plastic? (I can make up something myself but just for inspiration). It hurts so much compared to the mcm4 which had rubber down there. Thinking about glueing some rubber on the plastic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Backe Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, Yffisch said: And another question. How did you solve the feet thing against the plastic? (I can make up something myself but just for inspiration). It hurts so much compared to the mcm4 which had rubber down there. Thinking about glueing some rubber on the plastic. May I suggest that if you are having feet problems with the shell, the problem is with your stance on the wheel? There really is no reason for your feet/legs to be touching the shell on a continuous basis. Certainly not the feet/ankles. As I ride, only the upper parts of the shell will bounce between my legs as I ride and turn, but I'm not pressing my legs against the shell. Whenever I hear people complain about the wheel hurting their ankles, I know it's because they are 'grabbing' the wheel with their legs. This is understandable if you are new to riding, but as you progress in your skills you should move away from this stance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yffisch Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 40 minutes ago, Marty Backe said: May I suggest that if you are having feet problems with the shell, the problem is with your stance on the wheel? There really is no reason for your feet/legs to be touching the shell on a continuous basis. Certainly not the feet/ankles. As I ride, only the upper parts of the shell will bounce between my legs as I ride and turn, but I'm not pressing my legs against the shell. Whenever I hear people complain about the wheel hurting their ankles, I know it's because they are 'grabbing' the wheel with their legs. This is understandable if you are new to riding, but as you progress in your skills you should move away from this stance. That may be the solution. I am not new since i have 3500km om my mcm4. But I will try! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Backe Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Yffisch said: That may be the solution. I am not new since i have 3500km om my mcm4. But I will try! We all tend to fall into habits of doing things a particular way, and that includes riding. But I've learned that by practicing, I can change a behavior. As an example, I made a point of actively practicing my mounts so that I can start riding with either foot, confidently. I also worked on avoiding the "jump" mount. Likewise, I worked on getting my feet away from the shell and that's why I now advocate that padding on most wheels is really not needed, particularly on the MCM5, with it's sloping shell. So maybe you just never got out of the "bad" habit of pressing the ankles against the shell. Good luck. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yffisch Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 Thanks! Well different techniques works on different wheels. It was not a bad habit on the mcm4,Ā but it seems to be a bad habit doing the same for mcm5 I'lI'll work it away! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maltocs Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 Everyone rides a little differently. Look at those guys from NYC, one foot forward, one back, crazy leans during carving, all difference stances. But one things for sure, if there is pain involved, it's probably not the right way for you on that wheel! OnĀ my MTen3, my leg never touches the wheel. I can say the same about the MCM5 when I first got it, but after a lot of BOUNCY mountain riding, I felt the need to Jerry-Rig some ninebot pads so when hit those bumps I have a little bit of stability.Ā 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Backe Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 1 hour ago, maltocs said: Everyone rides a little differently. Look at those guys from NYC, one foot forward, one back, crazy leans during carving, all difference stances. But one things for sure, if there is pain involved, it's probably not the right way for you on that wheel! OnĀ my MTen3, my leg never touches the wheel. I can say the same about the MCM5 when I first got it, but after a lot of BOUNCY mountain riding, I felt the need to Jerry-Rig some ninebot pads so when hit those bumps I have a little bit of stability.Ā What's with all the duct tape? What have you been doing to that poor wheelĀ 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yffisch Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 13 hours ago, maltocs said: Everyone rides a little differently. Look at those guys from NYC, one foot forward, one back, crazy leans during carving, all difference stances. But one things for sure, if there is pain involved, it's probably not the right way for you on that wheel! OnĀ my MTen3, my leg never touches the wheel. I can say the same about the MCM5 when I first got it, but after a lot of BOUNCY mountain riding, I felt the need to Jerry-Rig some ninebot pads so when hit those bumps I have a little bit of stability.Ā That is a good idea! Too much effort for me though. I was considering duct taping a sponge om each side. That is my level of ambition š 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maltocs Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Yffisch said: That is a good idea! Too much effort for me though. I was considering duct taping a sponge om each side. That is my level of ambition š you give me WAY too much credit. I just happened to have those ninebot sponges and some velcro tape lying around! And as you can see as previously pointed out, I also had A LOT of duct tape lying around. Edited April 19, 2019 by maltocs grammar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yffisch Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 Yeah, but still Btw, today I heard some strange noise from my wheel every 10 seconds. I was at 39 degrees celcius and the fan started for 3 seconds and stopped again. Then it started after 10 seconds again and then repeat over and over. Sounds loud asĀ an old computer fan. Is this a natural behaviour? I get worried when it just starts and stops like that.Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying W Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 My fan does the same thing at 39c so it seems normal to meĀ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Tucker Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 My MCM5 fan starts and stops all the time too. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Backe Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 19 hours ago, Yffisch said: Yeah, but still Btw, today I heard some strange noise from my wheel every 10 seconds. I was at 39 degrees celcius and the fan started for 3 seconds and stopped again. Then it started after 10 seconds again and then repeat over and over. Sounds loud asĀ an old computer fan. Is this a natural behaviour? I get worried when it just starts and stops like that.Ā All the Gotway fans can get in a mode where they are turning on and off like that. It occurs when the board temperature is close to the fan turn-on temperature (~41-degrees Celsius). Gotway really needs to add a bit more hysteresis in the firmware.Ā Ā 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoother Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 1 hour ago, Marty Backe said: hysteresis I had to look that one up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Backe Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 1 minute ago, Smoother said: I had to look that one up. My degree is in electronics although the last 20-years I've spent moving bitsĀ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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